Vintage car races at Road America, WI

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...is a road race track in central Wisconsin.

My dad took me there since I was little to see the vintage races.

Now, I'm as old as my dad was when he started taking me there. I went there with the local Miata club this weekend, and got a chance to drive around the track, albeit at a slower pace.

I drank some beer and brought one of my less serious cameras, the Lumix FZ1000. It turned out to be perfect. Here are a couple of shots to share.

Edited to number the photos and leave space between them.


1) A first gen Miata. I wish this guy's fat head wasn't in the frame, but it couldn't be reasonably cropped out without looking too tight, I think...




2) What is THIS car? I just LOVE its lines. Reminds me of a miniature Ford GT.




3) A nice line-up of mostly red Miatae




4) Cari and I in our 2000 Miata (bystander photo)




5) Beautiful car; what is this?




6) An old Porsche. What model is this?

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-Jeremy
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...is a road race track in central Wisconsin.

My dad took me there since I was little to see the vintage races.

Now, I'm as old as my dad was when he started taking me there. I went there with the local Miata club this weekend, and got a chance to drive around the track, albeit at a slower pace.

I drank some beer and brought one of my less serious cameras, the Lumix FZ1000. It turned out to be perfect. Here are a couple of shots to share.


A first gen Miata. I wish this guy's fat head wasn't in the frame, but it couldn't be reasonably cropped out without looking too tight, I think...


Looks like a kit Car. Popular in those days. Very inexpensive for club racing


A nice line-up of mostly red Miatae


Cari and I in our 2000 Miata


Triumph spitfire Gt6


An old Porsche. What model is this?
Porsche 356

It is difficult to properly reply the way you presented your photos. Put at least one blank lines between images

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tony
 
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Great shots of some classic cars.

You can get rid of the fat head in the first one by using Content-Aware Fill in Photoshop or Inpainting in Affinity Photo, plus a little touching up with the clone tool.

Don
 
Yes I can confirm it is a Triumph GT 6. Nice car!
 
I like the fat head, track picts need some variety and ambiance at times.
 
Talk about carguy nirvana!? Nice work.

David
 
...is a road race track in central Wisconsin.

My dad took me there since I was little to see the vintage races.

Now, I'm as old as my dad was when he started taking me there. I went there with the local Miata club this weekend, and got a chance to drive around the track, albeit at a slower pace.

I drank some beer and brought one of my less serious cameras, the Lumix FZ1000. It turned out to be perfect. Here are a couple of shots to share.


A nice line-up of mostly red Miatae


Cari and I in our 2000 Miata
Nice ones, Jeremy!

Must admit that I am looking at something like a Pana FZ every now and then, as using them seems to be just as much fun as the old UZI (Olympus C-2100 UZ) which I used from 2003 until 2008!

Here in Germany, these Mazdas are called MX-5; I think nobody uses that 'Miata' name (like nobody ever called an Olympus 'Evolt' or certain Canon models 'Rebel')

That plural 'Miatae' looks funny! :-D Twice a Jeremy, would that be Jeremiae? ;-)

Back in the 90s I really wanted such an MX-5, but they were still a bit too new and too expensive for my taste, so my less expensive workaround was a slightly used Mazda 323 Turbo, 140 hp, just as fast as today's best MX-5. It looked more or less like any ordinary slow 'rice bowl', with the exception of that massive and heavy spoiler in the rear, like you can see in this picture I found via Google: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/a8/21/4da8215995f2c3af8d330a9ef1a02c11.jpg

This spoiler was very nice to put down a beer glass for a while! :-D Different to the one in the picture, mine had nicer rims and somewhat less ground clearance, due to expensive (but lifetime warranty!) Koni shock absorbers. That car was so much fun that I drove it from 1991 until 2003, 532,000 kilometers!, until my silly back started asking for something that made it a bit easier to get out again, lol! Solution: Renault Scenic. Nothing 'sharp' looking at all, lol, more a boring looking family car, but very comfortable! Priorities change when you grow older! :-)

The color of your -or Cari's- Miata: Hmm, I guess that is what I would call 'chicken-s..t dark-brown', lol, while my latest used Scenic came in 'chicken-s..t light-brown'. :-D Both not really my 'dream color'! Like in your picture, a majority of these cars are also just red color over here.

Picture source/Copyright: https://www.caradisiac.com/modele--renault-scenic-3/
Picture source/Copyright: https://www.caradisiac.com/modele--renault-scenic-3/

The little Mazda might have been slightly faster, oh well, but gas mileage really makes a difference!! The 1988 140hp Turbo Mazda: minimum about 10 liters per 100 km, 14 liters when you really wanted to have fun! The 2014 131hp Renault: Between 6 and 7 liters Diesel! (Sorry, but too lazy now to do the math the US way, miles per gallon).

Liewenberger

May 23, 14:20 GMT
 
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...is a road race track in central Wisconsin.

My dad took me there since I was little to see the vintage races.

Now, I'm as old as my dad was when he started taking me there. I went there with the local Miata club this weekend, and got a chance to drive around the track, albeit at a slower pace.

I drank some beer and brought one of my less serious cameras, the Lumix FZ1000. It turned out to be perfect. Here are a couple of shots to share.


A first gen Miata. I wish this guy's fat head wasn't in the frame, but it couldn't be reasonably cropped out without looking too tight, I think...


Looks like a kit Car. Popular in those days. Very inexpensive for club racing


A nice line-up of mostly red Miatae


Cari and I in our 2000 Miata


Triumph spitfire Gt6


An old Porsche. What model is this?
Porsche 356

It is difficult to properly reply the way you presented your photos. Put at least one blank lines between images
I believe the blue car is a Lotus. I hope to get to the Redman Challenge later this summer. What part of the track were these taken at?
 
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Nice ones, Jeremy!

Must admit that I am looking at something like a Pana FZ every now and then, as using them seems to be just as much fun as the old UZI (Olympus C-2100 UZ) which I used from 2003 until 2008!
The night before, I was having Decision Paralysis: Nikon D610 and the 70-300? Olympus E-M10.3 and a couple of teles? Didn't want to not have telephoto, so my GR III was out. Then I remembered the often-neglected FZ1000; it is PERFECT for this occasion.

Here in Germany, these Mazdas are called MX-5; I think nobody uses that 'Miata' name (like nobody ever called an Olympus 'Evolt' or certain Canon models 'Rebel')
Mazda stopped calling them "Miata" over here two generations ago, but it's too late now; that's how they're known and we're stubborn about that kind of thing. I also like the story that "Miata" means "reward" in old high German. (can you confirm that?) It somehow gives the car more personality to me.

That plural 'Miatae' looks funny! :-D Twice a Jeremy, would that be Jeremiae? ;-)

Back in the 90s I really wanted such an MX-5, but they were still a bit too new and too expensive for my taste, so my less expensive workaround was a slightly used Mazda 323 Turbo, 140 hp, just as fast as today's best MX-5. It looked more or less like any ordinary slow 'rice bowl', with the exception of that massive and heavy spoiler in the rear, like you can see in this picture I found via Google: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/a8/21/4da8215995f2c3af8d330a9ef1a02c11.jpg
I am skeptical that the old 323 Turbo was as quick as today's MX-5. Today's MX-5 will go 0-60 mph (0-97 kph) in 5.6 sec. Top speed is 127 mph. (204 kph) This is not to say the 323 wouldn't have been very fun, and a lot more practical!

This spoiler was very nice to put down a beer glass for a while! :-D Different to the one in the picture, mine had nicer rims and somewhat less ground clearance, due to expensive (but lifetime warranty!) Koni shock absorbers. That car was so much fun that I drove it from 1991 until 2003, 532,000 kilometers!, until my silly back started asking for something that made it a bit easier to get out again, lol! Solution: Renault Scenic. Nothing 'sharp' looking at all, lol, more a boring looking family car, but very comfortable! Priorities change when you grow older! :-)
Yes, I believe you. I hope to be able to get into and out of the Miata for many years to come. I just ordered Collector plates for it, which don't have to be renewed every year like our normal plates!

The color of your -or Cari's- Miata: Hmm, I guess that is what I would call 'chicken-s..t dark-brown',
I'm not an expert in colors of chicken poop, but I'd call it metallic orange. Mazda calls it "Evolution Orange Mica." I get comments on the color all the time. It is very rare on Miatas; it only came in that color for one year. The only thing I don't like about it is that the tan top doesn't really match. They really should've used black for the top.
lol, while my latest used Scenic came in 'chicken-s..t light-brown'. :-D Both not really my 'dream color'! Like in your picture, a majority of these cars are also just red color over here.

Picture source/Copyright: https://www.caradisiac.com/modele--renault-scenic-3/
Picture source/Copyright: https://www.caradisiac.com/modele--renault-scenic-3/

The little Mazda might have been slightly faster, oh well, but gas mileage really makes a difference!! The 1988 140hp Turbo Mazda: minimum about 10 liters per 100 km, 14 liters when you really wanted to have fun! The 2014 131hp Renault: Between 6 and 7 liters Diesel! (Sorry, but too lazy now to do the math the US way, miles per gallon).

Liewenberger

May 23, 14:20 GMT
I wonder if diesel compact cars will ever catch on here? We have diesel VW Jettas and maybe Passats, but that's all, and they're not popular. It might be too late; we seem to be going all-in on electric cars these days.

--
-Jeremy
*********
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."
-Eric Hofer
 
Nice ones, Jeremy!

Must admit that I am looking at something like a Pana FZ every now and then, as using them seems to be just as much fun as the old UZI (Olympus C-2100 UZ) which I used from 2003 until 2008!
The night before, I was having Decision Paralysis: Nikon D610 and the 70-300? Olympus E-M10.3 and a couple of teles? Didn't want to not have telephoto, so my GR III was out. Then I remembered the often-neglected FZ1000; it is PERFECT for this occasion.
Here in Germany, these Mazdas are called MX-5; I think nobody uses that 'Miata' name (like nobody ever called an Olympus 'Evolt' or certain Canon models 'Rebel')
Mazda stopped calling them "Miata" over here two generations ago, but it's too late now; that's how they're known and we're stubborn about that kind of thing. I also like the story that "Miata" means "reward" in old high German. (can you confirm that?) It somehow gives the car more personality to me.
I looked up a couple links, but couldn't find anything hinting at an old high German origin of 'Miata'. Doesn't sound German at all. The closest I can think of is 'Mia', short for 'Maria'.

A nice article about that 'Miata' name: https://garagedreams.net/car-facts/why-is-the-mx-5-called-miata-in-north-america

So you are actually driving a 'Eunos Roadster'! :-D
That plural 'Miatae' looks funny! :-D Twice a Jeremy, would that be Jeremiae? ;-)

Back in the 90s I really wanted such an MX-5, but they were still a bit too new and too expensive for my taste, so my less expensive workaround was a slightly used Mazda 323 Turbo, 140 hp, just as fast as today's best MX-5. It looked more or less like any ordinary slow 'rice bowl', with the exception of that massive and heavy spoiler in the rear, like you can see in this picture I found via Google: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/a8/21/4da8215995f2c3af8d330a9ef1a02c11.jpg
I am skeptical that the old 323 Turbo was as quick as today's MX-5. Today's MX-5 will go 0-60 mph (0-97 kph) in 5.6 sec. Top speed is 127 mph. (204 kph) This is not to say the 323 wouldn't have been very fun, and a lot more practical!
Believe me, Jeremy, it could do these 204 km/h! The fastest I had seen on the Tacho (speedometer) was 220, on a flat road, not downhill. A rather lightweight vehicle, compared to later ones, maybe part of the reason. Also, due to my Koni chassis, mine was a little lower, what probably also helped.
This spoiler was very nice to put down a beer glass for a while! :-D Different to the one in the picture, mine had nicer rims and somewhat less ground clearance, due to expensive (but lifetime warranty!) Koni shock absorbers. That car was so much fun that I drove it from 1991 until 2003, 532,000 kilometers!, until my silly back started asking for something that made it a bit easier to get out again, lol! Solution: Renault Scenic. Nothing 'sharp' looking at all, lol, more a boring looking family car, but very comfortable! Priorities change when you grow older! :-)
Just realized I forgot one: After the BF Turbo, before the Renault, came four years with another Mazda, a little 323F (BA):

Picture source/Copyright: https://thereaderwiki.com/de/Mazda_323
Picture source/Copyright: https://thereaderwiki.com/de/Mazda_323

Basically the same 1600cc engine like the turbo, but without that turbo charger, only lousy 88 hp, compared to the 140 I was used to. Going up in hp with a newer bike or car always feels good, but going the other way, down, sure didn't! :-(

Btw, my very first Mazda 323 was in 1979, the 1978 model, the FA4. 1300cc, 60hp, 10,390 DM, bought brand-new. Looked just like this one ( but with rear view mirrors and the radio antenna, which are missing in this pic):

web find, old 1978 Mazda brochure picture
web find, old 1978 Mazda brochure picture

Funny about the names: My Mazda dealer as well as his mechanics only used the internal Mazda type codes when talking about Mazda cars! Talking about this red one above, they called it the 'FA4', my year 88 Turbo was a 'BF' for them, the 323F was a 'BA', the first generation MX-5 was the 'NA', your second generation one would be an 'NB'.
Yes, I believe you. I hope to be able to get into and out of the Miata for many years to come. I just ordered Collector plates for it, which don't have to be renewed every year like our normal plates!
Different over here, we don't have to renew them every year. When doing the mandatory technical inspection every second year (first time after three years for brand-new cars), they only change a little sticker on the plate, the so called 'TÜV-Plakette', showing (cops) when the next inspection is due; put on like this it will be in December 2025:

TÜV-Plakette on license plate
TÜV-Plakette on license plate

'TÜV' stands for 'Technischer Überwachungsverein' (technical monitoring association).
The color of your -or Cari's- Miata: Hmm, I guess that is what I would call 'chicken-s..t dark-brown',
I'm not an expert in colors of chicken poop, but I'd call it metallic orange.
Neither am I, lol! I grew up in a little village with lots of cows, pigs, horses and chickens; if I remember correctly, chicken poop color was actually more of a greyish-whiteish mix, so my Renault is probably closer to that description than your MX-5. :-D
Mazda calls it "Evolution Orange Mica." I get comments on the color all the time. It is very rare on Miatas; it only came in that color for one year. The only thing I don't like about it is that the tan top doesn't really match. They really should've used black for the top.
lol, while my latest used Scenic came in 'chicken-s..t light-brown'. :-D Both not really my 'dream color'! Like in your picture, a majority of these cars are also just red color over here.

Picture source/Copyright: https://www.caradisiac.com/modele--renault-scenic-3/
Picture source/Copyright: https://www.caradisiac.com/modele--renault-scenic-3/

The little Mazda might have been slightly faster, oh well, but gas mileage really makes a difference!! The 1988 140hp Turbo Mazda: minimum about 10 liters per 100 km, 14 liters when you really wanted to have fun! The 2014 131hp Renault: Between 6 and 7 liters Diesel! (Sorry, but too lazy now to do the math the US way, miles per gallon).

Liewenberger

May 23, 14:20 GMT
I wonder if diesel compact cars will ever catch on here? We have diesel VW Jettas and maybe Passats, but that's all, and they're not popular. It might be too late; we seem to be going all-in on electric cars these days.
Yes, the same over here, the future seems to be electric. But for many years, I thought German car industry would come up with something based on Wasserstoff, Hydrogen.

Liewenberger

May 25, 03:42 GMT
 
loved my mazdas. bought a new 1981 626 coupe nice set of Simmons rims low profile tires and front and rear spoilers :-) owned it for 4 years 200,000 klm then i bough the first series 3 rx7 in australia in 1985 red one :-) now that was quik been over 200 klms in it before. always liked the mx5 but must admit i like my current Jeep GC v6 merc diesel it flies.

Ds
 
loved my mazdas. bought a new 1981 626 coupe nice set of Simmons rims low profile tires and front and rear spoilers :-) owned it for 4 years 200,000 klm then i bough the first series 3 rx7 in australia in 1985 red one :-) now that was quik been over 200 klms in it before. always liked the mx5 but must admit i like my current Jeep GC v6 merc diesel it flies.

Ds
RX-7, nice, must have been fun to drive that Wankel-engine (rotary piston) car! Just too bad the lousy gas mileage about killed that engine concept! 14 liters per 100 km, comparable to my little 323 Turbo, might have looked o.k. in the seventies and maybe 80s, but sure no longer today.

The son of my Mazda car dealer had an RX-8, fast and very good looking car!

Your Jeep, yes, Donald, 250 hp, about 200 km/h and only about 8 liters Diesel per 100 km sounds very good these days!

Liewenberger

May 26, 09:37 GMT
 
loved my mazdas. bought a new 1981 626 coupe nice set of Simmons rims low profile tires and front and rear spoilers :-) owned it for 4 years 200,000 klm then i bough the first series 3 rx7 in australia in 1985 red one :-) now that was quik been over 200 klms in it before. always liked the mx5 but must admit i like my current Jeep GC v6 merc diesel it flies.

Ds
My brother always used to talk up Japanese cars to me, and trash American ones. I am an ASE Certified Master Technician, so I kinda know what works and what doesn't. A fact lost on him.

Anyway, talking smart, he gets a Mazda GLC out of school. Thing lasts 65k before the camshaft breaks in half. Dealer felt so bad they sell him a 323 at cost and give him more than they should for the scrapped GLC. The 323 lasts about 5 years 100k before every dang sensor and module in his PCM control system starts failing. One CEL light after the other. This all coming off a Toyota Celica that the doors closed hard on because the uni-body was sagging on a rust free California body....LOL.

I like Japanese cars, and especially the bikes, but I never miss an opportunity when he tries to talk smart about cars to remind him just how clueless he is....LOL!
 
...is a road race track in central Wisconsin.

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It is difficult to properly reply the way you presented your photos. Put at least one blank lines between images
Not really difficult. Click on photo, press right-arrow and then enter. Now you have a free line for your comment.
Interesting, I've learnt something new, thanks!

(I thought I had already posted this earlier today, but it seems I forgot to click on 'Post'.)

Liewenberger

May 26, 14:24 GMT
 

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