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[unhappymeal]

Still available in Germany, but stock is listed as low for some kits.

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store.canon.de

Out of stock in Canada.

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shop.canon.ca

 

[nnowak]

List of discontinued M cameras:

EOS M100, EOS M10, EOS M6, EOS M5, EOS M3, EOS M2, EOS M

Source: Canon Japan

Seriously? Which do you think makes more sense; Canon Japan has not yet updated their list of discontinued cameras, or the Canon Japan webstore erroneously listed every M6 II option as discontinued?

The fact that the Kiss M (original M50) is not on that list should give you a pretty good clue.

 

[nnowak]

well, Powershot SX60 has greater IQ in RAW than iPhone 12 Pro Max.

I doubt that.

The SX60 has a 1/2.3" sensor with a f/3.4-6.5 lens (f/20-36 full frame equivalent). The main camera on the 12 Pro Max is a larger 1/1.9" sensor with a much brighter f/1.6 lens. The ultra wide camera is 1/3.4" with a f/2.4 lens and the telephoto is 1/3.4" with a f/2.2 lens. Depending on focal length, the SX60 is at least a couple stops behind the iPhone for light gathering.

I am fairly sure if you search you will find the comparision I made between them 2, the SX60 shot is far more detailed.

But much worse noise, worse colors, worse contrast, and worse white balance. The SX60 looks better pixel peeping small regions at 200%, but at normal viewing it looks worse. The green hills on the left side of the mug have completely lost their color in the SX60 shot.

and everything fixable in post because this is processed from actual RAW file

But you didn't

but you can't get destroyed details back.

You also are not going to get back the roughly two stops of dynamic range that you lost in the SX60 shot, which will make if much harder to get the colors correct.

the problem is the destructive baked in noise reduction that you cannot opt out of.

 

[KEG]

well, Powershot SX60 has greater IQ in RAW than iPhone 12 Pro Max.

I doubt that.

The SX60 has a 1/2.3" sensor with a f/3.4-6.5 lens (f/20-36 full frame equivalent). The main camera on the 12 Pro Max is a larger 1/1.9" sensor with a much brighter f/1.6 lens. The ultra wide camera is 1/3.4" with a f/2.4 lens and the telephoto is 1/3.4" with a f/2.2 lens. Depending on focal length, the SX60 is at least a couple stops behind the iPhone for light gathering.

I am fairly sure if you search you will find the comparision I made between them 2, the SX60 shot is far more detailed.

But much worse noise, worse colors, worse contrast, and worse white balance. The SX60 looks better pixel peeping small regions at 200%, but at normal viewing it looks worse. The green hills on the left side of the mug have completely lost their color in the SX60 shot.

and everything fixable in post because this is processed from actual RAW file

But you didn't

This is just a quick throwaway test to prove a point.

but you can't get destroyed details back.

You also are not going to get back the roughly two stops of dynamic range that you lost in the SX60 shot, which will make if much harder to get the colors correct.

the problem is the destructive baked in noise reduction that you cannot opt out of.

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KEG

 

[nnowak]

well, Powershot SX60 has greater IQ in RAW than iPhone 12 Pro Max.

I doubt that.

The SX60 has a 1/2.3" sensor with a f/3.4-6.5 lens (f/20-36 full frame equivalent). The main camera on the 12 Pro Max is a larger 1/1.9" sensor with a much brighter f/1.6 lens. The ultra wide camera is 1/3.4" with a f/2.4 lens and the telephoto is 1/3.4" with a f/2.2 lens. Depending on focal length, the SX60 is at least a couple stops behind the iPhone for light gathering.

I am fairly sure if you search you will find the comparision I made between them 2, the SX60 shot is far more detailed.

But much worse noise, worse colors, worse contrast, and worse white balance. The SX60 looks better pixel peeping small regions at 200%, but at normal viewing it looks worse. The green hills on the left side of the mug have completely lost their color in the SX60 shot.

and everything fixable in post because this is processed from actual RAW file

But you didn't

This is just a quick throwaway test to prove a point.

But it doesn't. You said the SX60 had "greater IQ in RAW". IQ is more than just fine detail. While the SX60 does appear to have more fine detail, the image looks worse in all other regards.

but you can't get destroyed details back.

You also are not going to get back the roughly two stops of dynamic range that you lost in the SX60 shot, which will make if much harder to get the colors correct.

the problem is the destructive baked in noise reduction that you cannot opt out of.

 

[Sittatunga]

List of discontinued M cameras:

EOS M100, EOS M10, EOS M6, EOS M5, EOS M3, EOS M2, EOS M

Source: Canon Japan

But see https://cweb.canon.jp/eos/lineup/

The model's on an effective end-of-line for discount at major UK retailers with no guarantee of further supplies, so if you want one, now's the time to buy it.

 

[PerfectMark]

Canon are meant to be releasing the R7 soon, so they might just be suspending production of the M6ii, so they can make enough R7s to meet the initial demand. Sony are having to do it with their cameras APSC cameras.

Of course if they do cancel the M series now, I will be watching the Fuji announcements at the end of May with great interest. They seem to be the safest choice at the moment with Sony 2 gens behind in sensor tech on their APSC cameras now (and stopping production of many of them), then you have Nikon which just seems to see APSC as a stepping stone to full frame.

 

[M4Mobility]

List of discontinued M cameras:

EOS M100, EOS M10, EOS M6, EOS M5, EOS M3, EOS M2, EOS M

Source: Canon Japan

Seriously?

Yes, the quote is genuine. If you think it is wrong, please contact Canon Japan. (Good luck. )

 

[M4Mobility]

List of discontinued M cameras:

EOS M100, EOS M10, EOS M6, EOS M5, EOS M3, EOS M2, EOS M

Source: Canon Japan

But see https://cweb.canon.jp/eos/lineup/

The model's on an effective end-of-line for discount at major UK retailers with no guarantee of further supplies, so if you want one, now's the time to buy it.

Thanks. I already have one. It's brilliant.

Seems to be in stock many places in Europe/EU.

 

[Boris22]

it's pretty easy to see that the sole M survivor will clearly be the M50 mkiii. Too many M50/m50mkII people worldwide to ignore. New processor with it's new features + better evf. forget ibis. . Don't need it to sell the M50iii. If it's all about sales-that is where the smart money would go. To think they will turn all the M 50 people into R people is fantasy.

 

[thetoolman]

Go find chips to build cameras these days. Canon could simply have a problem getting parts. There is no definitive word, as of this moment, that the camera has actually been discontinued.

 

[nnowak]

Go find chips to build cameras these days. Canon could simply have a problem getting parts. There is no definitive word, as of this moment, that the camera has actually been discontinued.

Except for the places where it is literally listed as "discontinued".

 

[m100]

Go find chips to build cameras these days. Canon could simply have a problem getting parts. There is no definitive word, as of this moment, that the camera has actually been discontinued.

Except for the places where it is literally listed as "discontinued".

For whatever reason they are sending them to Canon USA ?

Not only are they not discontinued but are in stock ?

There will be working ones in mint condition on ebay for the next 20 years anyway ?

The ebay prices for the first model M cameras keeps going up.

 

[Maxmolly7]

Well, if Canon dumps the M mount, I will probably be dumping Canon, I'm sorry to say. A bigger RF camera is of no interest to me.

The same goes for me! I tried RP with 24-240mm for travel and found it to be too bulky for me. If M gets discontinued, I will look elsewhere but not R system/ FF.

 

[B_Gardner]

DPReview weighs in on Canon cameras in general, including the M mount. Start at 8:30 and listen for 1 minute if you want to hear just what they have to say about the M mount:

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www.dpreview.com

 

[nnowak]

User scrup previously posted this link, but apparently some missed it...

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store.canon.jp

All M6 II options are listed as discontinued on the Japanese Canon web store.

 

[M4Mobility]

User scrup previously posted this link, but apparently some missed it...

https://store.canon.jp/online/secure/eosm6mk2.aspx

All M6 II options are listed as discontinued on the Japanese Canon web store.

I don't understand the Japanese on that page. Is it the options (SKU's) that are discontinued or the camera ?

 

[nnowak]

User scrup previously posted this link, but apparently some missed it...

https://store.canon.jp/online/secure/eosm6mk2.aspx

All M6 II options are listed as discontinued on the Japanese Canon web store.

I don't understand the Japanese on that page. Is it the options (SKU's) that are discontinued or the camera ?

It is ALL of the options that are discontinued. If you back up to the "mirrorless" camera section, the M6 II is not even listed, only the Kiss M2 (M50 II) and M200.