Has anyone bought an em10 mark 4?

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And if so are you happy with it?

I'm coming from an em5ii. Hoping for lighter and a slight bump in image quality :)
 
And if so are you happy with it?

I'm coming from an em5ii. Hoping for lighter and a slight bump in image quality :)
Yes. Bought it and am happy with it. If you are looking for lighter and a bit better picture, I think you'll like it. Remember - It is not weather sealed and still has CDAF and "only" 4.5 stops IBIS (Which I found is plenty). If those are not biggies with you, I think you'll like it a lot. Crappy weather continues here, so no pictures to post.

Peace.

John
 
And if so are you happy with it?

I'm coming from an em5ii. Hoping for lighter and a slight bump in image quality :)
Yes to both -

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Compared to my earlier purchase, the E-M10 II, the E-M10 IV menu is not full of road blocks to prevent fast working (meaning the people I work with do not get exasperated while I play with the settings). The Super Control Panel is comprehensive enough to cater for unexpected requests -

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And the built-in flash was just strong enough for Sandra's request on her 60th birthday.

Henry

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Henry Falkner - E-M10 Mark II and Mark IV, SH-1, SH-50
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Yes... I think the EM10.4 does what it should. I was just a bit disappointed that the EVF was a bit smaller and darker than I was expecting after being used to the EM1.2 and X that I have.

The AF (CDAF) is ok for most situations, but when I try to do stuff like CAF following a stage performer with an Oly 75mm f1.8 that I take for granted with PDAF and my EM1.2 and X, the 10.4 goes a bit silly pumping AF back and forth.

The sensor is the same IQ as the EM1.2/ X.

Overall, the 10.4 is a very likable camera if used within its design parameters. Ideally, an EM5.3 but with a built in flash would be my perfect out and about camera.

As much as I tried to like my Panasonic Lumix GX9, I much prefer the EM10.4. I sold the GX9 a week after getting the EM10.4.

By the way, the mechanical shutter sound and action of the EM10.4 sounds lovely to me.

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Credit to whoever said that first and my wife for saying it to me... Make the best you can of every day!
 
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And if so are you happy with it?

I'm coming from an em5ii. Hoping for lighter and a slight bump in image quality :)
Several people have and have posted their impressions. I have several threads with photos with it.

It's a pretty great camera. Coming from the EM5.2 I would say if you must have weather sealing, not the camera for you. Otherwise quite capable, more resolution and tilt LCD is wonderful to me.

Impressions threads:



 
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And if so are you happy with it?

I'm coming from an em5ii. Hoping for lighter and a slight bump in image quality :)
Last October I was lucky enough to find a lightly-used E-M10iv at one of the UK's better chains of camera stores at c.60% of the launch price.

For me it brings together, and adds to, many of the features I've enjoyed most in other M43 purchases...

At a modest 4oz/114g over the little Lumix GX800, I've gained a better EVF than in the GX7, GX80 and GX9 (slightly smaller than in E-M1, yes, but I find that way too bulky and weighty to carry often), as well as a good an IBIS system as I expect to ever need.

20MP sensor - may not be quite as good a version as in the GX9, but seems an improvement on all the 16MP offerings.

Lets me continue using my much-preferred option of a tilting screen, rather than swing-out.

Balances well with all the lenses I'm likely to use - from tiny (Pany 20mm f/1.7, 12-32 & Oly 14/42 EZ) through to my "carry limit", the Oly 12-45, Lumix 14-140 & 45-150.

[Putting the above in context - I'm a left-handed, left-eyed, spectacles wearer, who doesn't use the touch-screen, rarely shoots in bad weather, or out of town... and tries to avoid buying stuff that'll never get taken out of the house/hotel room!]

Haven't yet used it very much, but performed well on an early trip to Rome - pairing nicely with the Oly 9-18 and Lumix 12-60 f/3.5-5.6... and there's a dozen or so shots here:


I see you asked about this several months ago - and hope the answers this time will help you decide one way or the other!

Peter
 
Thanks Peter.

Any idea if the 14-42ez is any better than the standard 14-42? i.e which one should I aim for?

(I heard the 12-32 is good too but the prices here when I researched it once were outrageous)
 
Nice shots Henry. Is there much difference in image quality between the mark ii and the new mark iv? :)
 
Thanks Peter.

Any idea if the 14-42ez is any better than the standard 14-42? i.e which one should I aim for?

(I heard the 12-32 is good too but the prices here when I researched it once were outrageous)
I've only used the EZ version of Oly's 14-42 - it came with a white E-PL8, in an end of line deal with a 45mm f1.8 - in August 2019. I really have tried to like it, but can't/don't!

Biggest drawback for me is its 14mm start, simply not wide enough for what and where I shoot, a disadvantage that's not made up for by the extra length at the zoom's other end.

Results don't seem any better than with the Lumix - which I've had since late 2016 (for a while, two of them) and have used for almost half of all my M43 photos - maybe 12 times as many as with the 14-42EZ.

The 12-32 isn't perfect, at 12mm sometimes a noticeable amount of barrel distortion - but which is then usually easy removed in LR. The long end isn't very long. The twist-to-open operation was annoying at first, but eventually became second nature.

I can offer you 200+ examples from the 12-32...


... but haven't found enough good ones from the 14/42 to start an album.

Quite rare to see properly-boxed new ones here in the UK, but it's easily found on the used market at about £100 - presumably being resold by people who've bought kits but already own a similar lens, or by dealers who have split those bundles themselves.

Peter
 
I’ve had all of the E-M10 series cameras as well as the E-M5 II and III. the 5.3 is the overall winner, but the 10.4 is my second choice (first choice if I’m going to want the tilt screen). Image quality is the same between the 5.3 and the 10.4 with both pretty much noise free at at least ISO 1,000. The C-AF is much improved over the earlier iterations of contrast only autofocus.

Although I have more expensive Olympus bodies, the E-M10 IV is my overall grab and go travel kit when coupled with the 14-42EZ and the 40-150 “plastic fantastic”.


E-M10 IV, 14-42 EZ, Sunset Scene Mode.




E-M10 IV, 14-42 EZ, Handheld Starlight Mode, ISO 12,800
 
Any idea if the 14-42ez is any better than the standard 14-42? i.e which one should I aim for?
I've owned both.

The EZ is the one to buy if you want the smallest package possible. If you buy the optional lenscap, it has a hutter that opens when the lens extends, just like a P&S camera. The cap precludes leaving a lens hood or filter on the lens, though. There is no dedicated lens hood anyway. It focuses closer then the 14-42IIR. The zoom is electric. What looks like a zoom ring is really just a switch, turn one way to zoom out, the other way to zoom in. Setting a precise focal length is difficult. The focal length is only displayed while zooming, disappearing a few seconds later. A camera menu item called "lens reset" controls what focal length the lens is at when powering on the camera. Reset ON, it always comes up at 14mm. Reset OFF, it actually remembers the last focal length used. In the OFF case, you could zoom to 25mm once and until you move the zoom ring again while the camera is on, it will power up to 25mm every time.

The 14-42IIR is larger of course and the zooming is manual so easier to control. You can always see what the focal length and preset it before you shoot. The lock switch is only needed to collapse the lens so there's no fumbling with the switch to extend the lens causing you to miss a shot.

As far as the IQ, I found them to be the same, really. Both take 37mm filters (the only Olympus lenses that share that filter size are the 17/2.8 and 45/1.8)

So buy the 14-42 EZ if:

-- need the smallest size lens possible

-- you like electric zooming

-- you like the idea of the auto lens cap (but it's optional)

-- you need to focus as close as possible

Buy the 14-42IIR if:

-- you like manual zooming

-- you like having a reversible, bayonet lens hood (but it's optional)

-- usually cheaper than the EZ when bought used

I would only buy either lens as part of a bundle. Both are about $100 in a bundle, $300 (too much!) bought by itself.
 
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Nice shots Henry. Is there much difference in image quality between the mark ii and the new mark iv? :)
There is not much difference in image quality - but I prefer the 20 MP LCD because some Muriwai gannet shots enlarged to 33x23 inch look less dubious when examined with a magnifier.

However the full size cluster focusing on the E-M10 IV is more reliable with the gannets and the night shots.

To me, the E-M10 IV is what the Mark II might have been if the firmware writers had not committed their disagreements to hardware.

Henry
 

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