DXO PureRAW - New Release...

[Phil and Karen]

Will have a look into this. I presume if you process the RAWs through PureRAW and then import the DNGs into LR, you turn off all lens correction in LR?

Hi Bruce,

My understanding is DXO lens corrections are of very high quality - in fact, I've been finding areas of my images I never knew existed. Check the below example screen dump showing a direct import to LR on the left and an import via PL4 on the right. Note the bird's claw.

(It doesn't matter what I do with the direct import into LR I can't get the full image to show).

I've found if I apply lens corrections again in LR it crops images. (As I'm brand new to PL4 I'm still exploring the finer points of this particular aspect, but I think I'll end up just using the files as sent across by PL4 without applying the lens corrections a second time in LR).

Phil

 

[241Photography]

Will have a look into this. I presume if you process the RAWs through PureRAW and then import the DNGs into LR, you turn off all lens correction in LR?

Hi Bruce,

My understanding is DXO lens corrections are of very high quality - in fact, I've been finding areas of my images I never knew existed. Check the below example screen dump showing a direct import to LR on the left and an import via PL4 on the right. Note the bird's claw.

(It doesn't matter what I do with the direct import into LR I can't get the full image to show).

I've found if I apply lens corrections again in LR it crops images. (As I'm brand new to PL4 I'm still exploring the finer points of this particular aspect, but I think I'll end up just using the files as sent across by PL4 without applying the lens corrections a second time in LR).

Phil

Thanks for the reply. I noticed Capture One lens correction is different to LR as well in the past. Will have a look. The main issue for me is I'm a fulltime property photographer. I shoot 200-300 images a day and the main downside of PureRAW, from what I'm reading, is the time it takes to apply the settings to each image. I've seen 30 secs quoted.

--
Regards
Bruce

 

[Phil and Karen]

I hate noise and have used everything out there extensively. DXO RAW is already incorporated into DXO 4 Elite which I have. It is called Deep Prime within the software and can ONLY be used on RAW images...hence the new name of PureRAW

I like it, use it occasionally but still find myself resorting to Topaz DeNoise AI which is the best there is by a long shot IMO. The difficulty with Deep Prime within DXO 4 Elite is that it does not show you the final result as quick and easily as DeNoise...and the fact that it simply does not do as good of a job.

Will prob have my affiliate copy of Pure RAW within the day and will comment.

DISCOUNT NOTE: Use the code PURERAW for 30% off

Hi LesT,

I'm still perfecting my workflow (a process which is likely to take forever - all part of the fun :-D ), but I'm finding: LR (image weeding - otherwise no editing) -> PL4 (processing) -> LR (tweaking) -> Topaz Apps (fiddling - if needed), is producing some very satisfying outcomes.

As you already have PL4, PureRAW would be of no additional benefit to you on the face of it, although it does provide a very simple and relatively quick 'one-click PL4 experience'. (It's a lot like having an AI driven, rather than User tweaked, Preset which uses 7 PL4 functions).

While testing PureRAW, I found it consistently produced excellent results with a range of images/ cameras, but as a confirmed adjustment twiddler I found the lack of user control an unsatisfying experience. I much prefer to get my hands in the dough, so I got PL4 Elite.

Phil

 

[Phil and Karen]

Will have a look into this. I presume if you process the RAWs through PureRAW and then import the DNGs into LR, you turn off all lens correction in LR?

Hi Bruce,

My understanding is DXO lens corrections are of very high quality - in fact, I've been finding areas of my images I never knew existed. Check the below example screen dump showing a direct import to LR on the left and an import via PL4 on the right. Note the bird's claw.

(It doesn't matter what I do with the direct import into LR I can't get the full image to show).

I've found if I apply lens corrections again in LR it crops images. (As I'm brand new to PL4 I'm still exploring the finer points of this particular aspect, but I think I'll end up just using the files as sent across by PL4 without applying the lens corrections a second time in LR).

Phil

Thanks for the reply. I noticed Capture One lens correction is different to LR as well in the past. Will have a look. The main issue for me is I'm a fulltime property photographer. I shoot 200-300 images a day and the main downside of PureRAW, from what I'm reading, is the time it takes to apply the settings to each image. I've seen 30 secs quoted.

Hi Bruce,

In setting up for my testing yesterday I batch processed 21 images using PureRAW (various R5, 7DII and Sony RX10IV's) and I seem to remember it took around 17-18 minutes-ish.

(I have an iMac 5K i5 3.5GHz 16MB RAM).

Phil

 

[241Photography]

Will have a look into this. I presume if you process the RAWs through PureRAW and then import the DNGs into LR, you turn off all lens correction in LR?

Hi Bruce,

My understanding is DXO lens corrections are of very high quality - in fact, I've been finding areas of my images I never knew existed. Check the below example screen dump showing a direct import to LR on the left and an import via PL4 on the right. Note the bird's claw.

(It doesn't matter what I do with the direct import into LR I can't get the full image to show).

I've found if I apply lens corrections again in LR it crops images. (As I'm brand new to PL4 I'm still exploring the finer points of this particular aspect, but I think I'll end up just using the files as sent across by PL4 without applying the lens corrections a second time in LR).

Phil

Thanks for the reply. I noticed Capture One lens correction is different to LR as well in the past. Will have a look. The main issue for me is I'm a fulltime property photographer. I shoot 200-300 images a day and the main downside of PureRAW, from what I'm reading, is the time it takes to apply the settings to each image. I've seen 30 secs quoted.

Hi Bruce,

In setting up for my testing yesterday I batch processed 21 images using PureRAW (various R5, 7DII and Sony RX10IV's) and I seem to remember it took around 17-18 minutes-ish.

(I have an iMac 5K i5 3.5GHz 16MB RAM).

Phil

That's my worry. I can't wait a 50 to 150 mins (100 to 300 images) to process before I got to LR. Most of my Estate Agents wont even notice the difference.

--
Regards
Bruce

 

[Phil and Karen]

Will have a look into this. I presume if you process the RAWs through PureRAW and then import the DNGs into LR, you turn off all lens correction in LR?

Hi Bruce,

My understanding is DXO lens corrections are of very high quality - in fact, I've been finding areas of my images I never knew existed. Check the below example screen dump showing a direct import to LR on the left and an import via PL4 on the right. Note the bird's claw.

(It doesn't matter what I do with the direct import into LR I can't get the full image to show).

I've found if I apply lens corrections again in LR it crops images. (As I'm brand new to PL4 I'm still exploring the finer points of this particular aspect, but I think I'll end up just using the files as sent across by PL4 without applying the lens corrections a second time in LR).

Phil

Thanks for the reply. I noticed Capture One lens correction is different to LR as well in the past. Will have a look. The main issue for me is I'm a fulltime property photographer. I shoot 200-300 images a day and the main downside of PureRAW, from what I'm reading, is the time it takes to apply the settings to each image. I've seen 30 secs quoted.

Hi Bruce,

In setting up for my testing yesterday I batch processed 21 images using PureRAW (various R5, 7DII and Sony RX10IV's) and I seem to remember it took around 17-18 minutes-ish.

(I have an iMac 5K i5 3.5GHz 16MB RAM).

Phil

That's my worry. I can't wait a 50 to 150 mins (100 to 300 images) to process before I got to LR. Most of my Estate Agents wont even notice the difference.

Hi Bruce,

That's sounding like a well reasoned final conclusion to me.

I'm lucky to be able to enjoy the luxury of being a hobby photographer, with a reasonable amount of spare time to fiddle about doing my processing.

Phil

 

[2ndact scene1]

Phil, thanks. Good info. It is a journey! Color profiles are something I need to look at. I really like the DxO film pack but sometimes I just want my Canon colors.

Kevin

 

[Phil and Karen]

Phil, thanks. Good info. It is a journey! Color profiles are something I need to look at. I really like the DxO film pack but sometimes I just want my Canon colors.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

My workflow is constantly developing ( :-D ), but I'm now gravitating towards -

• Import raw files into LR - weed out/ choose which to take forward (delete the rest).
• Send file(s) to PL4 using LR plug-in - carry out the bulk of image processing in PL4.
• Export back to LR - additional minor tweaking (if needed).
• Send to Photoshop and/or Topaz Apps using plug-ins (if needed for 'fiddling about').
• Return to LR for export/ cataloguing.

Seems to be working well as a process, although I could change my mind again tomorrow...

Phil

 

[starfly]

Phil, thanks. Good info. It is a journey! Color profiles are something I need to look at. I really like the DxO film pack but sometimes I just want my Canon colors.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

My workflow is constantly developing ( :-D ), but I'm now gravitating towards -

• Import raw files into LR - weed out/ choose which to take forward (delete the rest).
• Send file(s) to PL4 using LR plug-in - carry out the bulk of image processing in PL4.
• Export back to LR - additional minor tweaking (if needed).
• Send to Photoshop and/or Topaz Apps using plug-ins (if needed for 'fiddling about').
• Return to LR for export/ cataloguing.

Seems to be working well as a process, although I could change my mind again tomorrow...

Phil

This is so important these days. With these 45mp RAW files, free storage space on my hard drives shrinks fast. So the first thing I do before any editing is quickly find which images I want to keep and just delete the rest. I used to never delete images except out of focus ones, but now I only keep the excellent ones. So sometimes out of 100 pics I might keep only 10.

Otherwise, since I already have PL4 and Lightroom, there's no need for me to get this other DXO software. Maybe I should change up my workflow a bit so I get the benefits of Lightroom and the power of PL4. So far it's more been an OR situation for me, I'll either work on images in LR -OR- work on them in PL4. But maybe I can do both.

 

[LesT]

Phil, thanks. Good info. It is a journey! Color profiles are something I need to look at. I really like the DxO film pack but sometimes I just want my Canon colors.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

My workflow is constantly developing ( :-D ), but I'm now gravitating towards -

• Import raw files into LR - weed out/ choose which to take forward (delete the rest).
• Send file(s) to PL4 using LR plug-in - carry out the bulk of image processing in PL4.
• Export back to LR - additional minor tweaking (if needed).
• Send to Photoshop and/or Topaz Apps using plug-ins (if needed for 'fiddling about').
• Return to LR for export/ cataloguing.

Seems to be working well as a process, although I could change my mind again tomorrow...

Phil

This is so important these days. With these 45mp RAW files, free storage space on my hard drives shrinks fast. So the first thing I do before any editing is quickly find which images I want to keep and just delete the rest. I used to never delete images except out of focus ones, but now I only keep the excellent ones. So sometimes out of 100 pics I might keep only 10.

Otherwise, since I already have PL4 and Lightroom, there's no need for me to get this other DXO software. Maybe I should change up my workflow a bit so I get the benefits of Lightroom and the power of PL4. So far it's more been an OR situation for me, I'll either work on images in LR -OR- work on them in PL4. But maybe I can do both.

I spoke with DXO. If you have PLO4 Elite, there is no reason to look at Pure Raw whatsoever as it is all within PL4 Elite.

 

[fredlord]

It definitely produces a different look. It seems to be a bit more detailed vs. my usual method. It also has an effect on overall image exposure values which darkens things a bit.

It wouldn't be something used on every image for me. I think it could be useful as a tool for those images needing just a bit of extra processing to bring out details. Time wise, it eats up too much of the clock.

I did use the "Enhance" feature of ACR for the normal images.

Perhaps I could do better without it but it is simpler I think.

I may just buy the PL4 Essentials for the same price and just use these functions.

PureRAW

Normal

PureRAW

Normal

PureRAW

Normal

--
Fred Lord
https://fred-j-lord.pixels.com

 

[Larawanista]

Here's a sample from an unexpected visitor I had last night. Processed using DXO PureRaw DeepPrime setting.

--
"Photography is therapeutic."

500px

500px.com

 

[fredlord]

I went back and forth about what to do and, finally, just went ahead and purchased PL4. As it turned out, that seems to have been a good move. For US$50 more, I think it has some advantages.

Normal processing for me.

PureRAW

Photo Lab 4



--
Fred Lord

Fred J Lord - Official Website

This is the website of Fred J Lord. Shop for sky art, sunset art, nature art, and more. Designs are available to purchase as canvas prints, framed prints, posters, greeting cards, apparel, and other products. Fred Lord is a long-time resident of Colorado. From the age of twelve he developed...

fred-j-lord.pixels.com

 

[TheVancouverGuy]

Ever wanted DeepPrime noise reduction without having to buy the full DXO PhotoLab 4?

(I have - I've recently been assessing PL4 with a view to merging it into my LR workflow).

DXO have just released PureRAW - details (and free demo download) can be found Here.

A YouTube review/ demonstration by Robin Whalley is available Here

Phil

I just tried this and honestly I didn't like the results.

Perhaps I am too set in my ways but the colours I get, and the finished product, of going DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI plug-in just work for me.

I know Luddite

Hey that's what I like to do too! DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI Plug-in.

 

[Larawanista]

Ever wanted DeepPrime noise reduction without having to buy the full DXO PhotoLab 4?

(I have - I've recently been assessing PL4 with a view to merging it into my LR workflow).

DXO have just released PureRAW - details (and free demo download) can be found Here.

A YouTube review/ demonstration by Robin Whalley is available Here

Phil

Thanks for this post, mate! It got me interested to try it out. Aside from doing a good job on removing noise for high ISO images from my R and RP, I tried it on my drone as well (Mavic Pro), and the results I have to say are great for both removing low ISO and high ISO noise. Sharing some shots here:

--
"Photography is therapeutic."

500px

500px.com

 

[birdbrain]

Ever wanted DeepPrime noise reduction without having to buy the full DXO PhotoLab 4?

(I have - I've recently been assessing PL4 with a view to merging it into my LR workflow).

DXO have just released PureRAW - details (and free demo download) can be found Here.

A YouTube review/ demonstration by Robin Whalley is available Here

Phil

I just tried this and honestly I didn't like the results.

Perhaps I am too set in my ways but the colours I get, and the finished product, of going DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI plug-in just work for me.

I know Luddite

Hey that's what I like to do too! DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI Plug-in.

Great minds think alike

 

[cocoanud]

I actually ended up getting the PureRAW.

I was trying out the Tamron 100-400 lens as a budget oriented alternative. The lens seems OK. However, R6 will not apply any corrections for the Tamron lens.

Hence, the JPEGs will end up looking... wonky :-/

The obvious alternatives are...

- Canon EF 100-400 L : Expensive and heavy

- Canon RF 100-500 L : Not all that heavy considering the focal lengths but currently selling at £2600 in grey market.

- Tamron 100-400 : Lighter than RF 100-500.

So, the solution for now is to shoot RAW with the Tamron. However, Tamron 100-400 is the one lens for which Capture One doesn't have a Lens Profile :-/

Apple Photos cannot correct Lens shortcomings, it doesn't even do a good job for removing Vignette. (It can add Vignette though ???)

Just on off chance took the PureRAW trial and it indeed does have the required profile and have to say. Other than color saturation, the RAW to JPEG conversion is pretty darn good .

So, for now I will shoot RAW with Tamron 100-400 and buy DxO Pure Raw. I can add do minor tweaks in Apple Photos where needed. For now, better than spending on RF 100-500.

Just played around with my usual garden model a bit and I think the results are OK

In comparison, this is the JPEG produced by the camera

--C

 

[2ndact scene1]

Ever wanted DeepPrime noise reduction without having to buy the full DXO PhotoLab 4?

(I have - I've recently been assessing PL4 with a view to merging it into my LR workflow).

DXO have just released PureRAW - details (and free demo download) can be found Here.

A YouTube review/ demonstration by Robin Whalley is available Here

Phil

I just tried this and honestly I didn't like the results.

Perhaps I am too set in my ways but the colours I get, and the finished product, of going DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI plug-in just work for me.

I know Luddite

 

[Sourov]

Ever wanted DeepPrime noise reduction without having to buy the full DXO PhotoLab 4?

(I have - I've recently been assessing PL4 with a view to merging it into my LR workflow).

DXO have just released PureRAW - details (and free demo download) can be found Here.

A YouTube review/ demonstration by Robin Whalley is available Here

Phil

I just tried this and honestly I didn't like the results.

Perhaps I am too set in my ways but the colours I get, and the finished product, of going DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI plug-in just work for me.

I know Luddite

I am curious. Are you using DPP for lens corrections (Canon lenses only) and color or just color? I assume ACR for exposure and local adjustments? How about PS? Is Topaz for noise reduction and sharpening or is it too late in the processing chain to do noise reduction?

I have all these tools except Topaz, so maybe there are new ways I can use them.

Lack of color profile for the RP in Adobe is a problem for me, even though there are workarounds using a 6D.2 profile. Maybe DPP is a better workaround?

This video shows how to work with Canon dpp 4 and Topaz Denoise Ai together.

And that is exactly what my Workflow is.

I get to have the great canon colours and lens corrections. And clean images with Topaz.

 

[birdbrain]

Ever wanted DeepPrime noise reduction without having to buy the full DXO PhotoLab 4?

(I have - I've recently been assessing PL4 with a view to merging it into my LR workflow).

DXO have just released PureRAW - details (and free demo download) can be found Here.

A YouTube review/ demonstration by Robin Whalley is available Here

Phil

I just tried this and honestly I didn't like the results.

Perhaps I am too set in my ways but the colours I get, and the finished product, of going DPP, TIFF, ACR, PS-2021 and Topaz DeNoise AI plug-in just work for me.

I know Luddite

I am curious. Are you using DPP for lens corrections (Canon lenses only) and color or just color? I assume ACR for exposure and local adjustments? How about PS? Is Topaz for noise reduction and sharpening or is it too late in the processing chain to do noise reduction?

I use DPP to carry out any adjustments on the RAW file and apply lens correction.

Then the TIFF file I open in ACR and do any further tweaking as appropriate. As sometimes ACR can offer adjustments for particular things. Then I open the image in PS where basically I add my signature to the file and save as a jpeg. Or if it’s destined to be printed it’s saved as a PS file.

I find the Quick Check function of DPP such a quick and handy way to go through all the images and purge the failures and highlight the good ones.

I have all these tools except Topaz, so maybe there are new ways I can use them.

Lack of color profile for the RP in Adobe is a problem for me, even though there are workarounds using a 6D.2 profile. Maybe DPP is a better workaround?