Epson p900 vs Canon pro1000

[Suzyyzus]

I need to replace my ageing Epson r2000 soon and have narrowed my choice down to the p900 or canon pro1000 - mostly due to the larger cartridges. I was fairly set on the p900 (once it’s available again) but have been reading other threads plus reviews about paper handling which is concerning me. I run a stationery design business and print mainly on thick card (300 gsm) rather than photo paper. Would any p700 or p900 owners have any comments on whether I’m likely to have issues with the p900?

I’ve been less keen on the Canon pro1000 as it’s larger and I’ve read it does a maintenance cycle after every print. I do an awful lot of a5 size prints (up to 50 a day) so if this is true I’d use a lot of ink. Would any pro1000 owners have views on ink consumption?

Thank you!

 

[Charles2]

... the Canon pro1000 as it’s larger and I’ve read it does a maintenance cycle after every print. I do an awful lot of a5 size prints (up to 50 a day) so if this is true I’d use a lot of ink. Would any pro1000 owners have views on ink consumption?

Keith Cooper discusses maintenance ink consumption in his extensive review of the printer at

Canon PRO-1000 printer review - Northlight Images

Detailed Canon PRO-1000 printer review. 17" pigment ink printer. 11 inks and a colour optimiser coat. Tested for colour and B&W printing.

www.northlight-images.co.uk

 

[panos_m]

I need to replace my ageing Epson r2000 soon and have narrowed my choice down to the p900 or canon pro1000 - mostly due to the larger cartridges. I was fairly set on the p900 (once it’s available again) but have been reading other threads plus reviews about paper handling which is concerning me. I run a stationery design business and print mainly on thick card (300 gsm) rather than photo paper. Would any p700 or p900 owners have any comments on whether I’m likely to have issues with the p900?

I’ve been less keen on the Canon pro1000 as it’s larger and I’ve read it does a maintenance cycle after every print. I do an awful lot of a5 size prints (up to 50 a day) so if this is true I’d use a lot of ink. Would any pro1000 owners have views on ink consumption?

Thank you!

I know only about the Canon PRO-1000.

If you can group the A5s in larger DIN A sizes sheets and cut them in a trimmer then for that amount of printing the Canon can be very efficient. For example if you can group 8 A5 in one A2 sheet you get one cleaning instead of 8 and a faster printing time and for 5-6 A2 a day (which is 150+ A2 a month) you will get a very good ink consumption.

Also I am confident that the Canon PRO-1000's build quality and paper feed mechanism can handle this kind of work load.

 

[panos_m]

I need to replace my ageing Epson r2000 soon and have narrowed my choice down to the p900 or canon pro1000 - mostly due to the larger cartridges. I was fairly set on the p900 (once it’s available again) but have been reading other threads plus reviews about paper handling which is concerning me. I run a stationery design business and print mainly on thick card (300 gsm) rather than photo paper. Would any p700 or p900 owners have any comments on whether I’m likely to have issues with the p900?

I’ve been less keen on the Canon pro1000 as it’s larger and I’ve read it does a maintenance cycle after every print. I do an awful lot of a5 size prints (up to 50 a day) so if this is true I’d use a lot of ink. Would any pro1000 owners have views on ink consumption?

Thank you!

For 300gsm card stock you will probably have to use the manual feed tray on the Canon PRO-1000 which is only accept A4 and larger sizes not A5.

--
Panagiotis

 

[Keith Cooper]

I need to replace my ageing Epson r2000 soon and have narrowed my choice down to the p900 or canon pro1000 - mostly due to the larger cartridges. I was fairly set on the p900 (once it’s available again) but have been reading other threads plus reviews about paper handling which is concerning me. I run a stationery design business and print mainly on thick card (300 gsm) rather than photo paper. Would any p700 or p900 owners have any comments on whether I’m likely to have issues with the p900?

It's been a while since I had the 1000 here and it had some of the best paper feeding I'd tested at the time.

I’ve been less keen on the Canon pro1000 as it’s larger and I’ve read it does a maintenance cycle after every print.

Careful what you read - this is hokum ;-)

Many printers do a little 'houskeeping' after a print, but to call it a maintenance cycle is stretching things...

There is a lot of stuff I see about 'ink waste' that is not even wrong... ;-)

I do an awful lot of a5 size prints (up to 50 a day) so if this is true I’d use a lot of ink.

More important is the handling of the paper I'd suggest. I tested the P700/900 recently for reviews and noticed that feeding of card, especially multiple cards in a feed tray were not as robust as I might like. Now, I wasn't able to test this thoroughly enough to raise it as an issue (I had early printers, and suffered damage in shipping) but given you are comparing with the 1000...

A5 is a slightly awkward size too - check the current specs for support of borderless if you need it.

50 prints a day is more than enough to keep the maintenance proportion of ink to relatively low levels

Would any pro1000 owners have views on ink consumption?

See the link to my review in another reply

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

I need to replace my ageing Epson r2000 soon and have narrowed my choice down to the p900 or canon pro1000 - mostly due to the larger cartridges. I was fairly set on the p900 (once it’s available again) but have been reading other threads plus reviews about paper handling which is concerning me. I run a stationery design business and print mainly on thick card (300 gsm) rather than photo paper. Would any p700 or p900 owners have any comments on whether I’m likely to have issues with the p900?

I’ve been less keen on the Canon pro1000 as it’s larger and I’ve read it does a maintenance cycle after every print. I do an awful lot of a5 size prints (up to 50 a day) so if this is true I’d use a lot of ink. Would any pro1000 owners have views on ink consumption?

I've never used a Pro-1000, but being the supplier and maintainer of the Pro-100 we have at work, I feel pretty comfortable saying that a lot of what you read here and elsewhere about Canon self-cleanings is just plain wrong. So start with that.

It is clear that all these Canon printers perform self-cleanings. Much of the erroneous belief appears to come from information in the Pro 9000 service manual, which many assumed applied to the Pro-100 and probably other Canon printers, but I'd give you 4:1 odds that in several particulars it does not. It also seems pretty well agreed that the pigment-ink Canons like the Pro-1000 and historically the Pro-10 use more ink on self-cleanings than do the dye-inks Canon like the Pro-100. Interestingly, Canon specifically claims reduced ink consumption for the Pro-300, presumably compared to the Pro-10, but AFAIK does not make a similar claim for the Pro-200, presumably compared to the Pro-100. That arguably implies that Canon concluded that its pigment-ink printers were using more ink than necessary on self-cleanings.

As for how much ink the Pro-1000 actually uses on self-cleanings, by far the most meticulous data I've seen on that is from panos_m / Panagiotis, who already replied here; maybe he'll post his latest data. But my strong suspicion is that if you really print something like 50 prints--or at area of 50 x A5--per day, then the fraction of ink a Pro-1000 would use on self-cleanings would not be a big problem. You run a business, and printing is a cost of doing business. In that context, the ink really should not be a major cost.

 

[Ken60]

Suzy , did you know that the Canon Pro 1000 was responsible for the erroneous vote count in the American elections, caused a multi car pile up on the motorway, and contributed to the growths of single young mothers !

I hasten to add that all of the above is as valid and truthful as the suggestions you seem to have gathered !

My suggestion is look at the cartridge size and the ink volume per cartridge in relation to cost. As someone suggested, print your A5s on a 2 up A4 or larger version of this and trim to size. Quicker, less fiddly and more cost effective.

If you go for the Pro 1000 and need any help with the settings give us a shout , as you can guess I am a big fan.

 

[Suzyyzus]

Thanks so much for all the helpful comments. I’m still deliberating but the advice was very useful

 

[tom43]

I had the Pro-1 and now the P900. After a few weeks I have now the feeling that ink usage for cleaning cycles is much lower for a person like me, only printing once every week or so. Can‘t complain about paper feeding, but I have no experience with heavy A5 cards...

 

[fpapp]

I'm also debating between these two printers and I find myself leaning towards the Canon.

I've about reached the end of my patience with my Epson 3800! I'm tired of dealing with the constant ink clogs, head cleanings and nozzle checks. It's now showing the known issue of yellow ink being contaminated with the photo black ink.

Between the Epson p900 & Canon pro1000 I like the fact that the Canon has larger tanks, but I wish it had a roll paper option and longer maximum paper length like the Epson, but these aren't deal breakers for me. One thing for certain, I will never buy another printer that shares the matte and photo black channels!

I've owned several of the smaller Canon Photo all-in-one type printers including my current TS8220 and I've never had issues with ink clogs.

I don't print every day (I'm just a hobbyist) maybe once every week or so, but I like to have the ability to do my own printing and have complete control over the process.

Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated!

I'd also like to ask what you guys think would be a fair price to sell my 3800 for? I has the full set of inks installed, approximately half full, along with unused, sealed, and expired matte black and magenta carts. i would also include half used 100' rolls of premium luster and matte paper.

Thanks,

Frank

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

Between the Epson p900 & Canon pro1000 I like the fact that the Canon has larger tanks, but I wish it had a roll paper option and longer maximum paper length like the Epson ....

Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated!

Are you aware that maybe a year ago Canon issued a firmware update for the Pro-1000 that increased the maximum paper length from 676mm (26.6 in) to 1.2m (47.2 in)?

 

[fpapp]

Between the Epson p900 & Canon pro1000 I like the fact that the Canon has larger tanks, but I wish it had a roll paper option and longer maximum paper length like the Epson ....

Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated!

Are you aware that maybe a year ago Canon issued a firmware update for the Pro-1000 that increased the maximum paper length from 676mm (26.6 in) to 1.2m (47.2 in)?

Yes, Thanks.

The P900 can go up to 129"

 

[Kristi R]

Which printer did you decide on AND are you happy with it?

I also use the printer on heavy stock for stationery purposes. I am looking to replace an Epson SureColor P400 ( and I had the R2000 before that). I am really torn between the Canon Pro 1000 and the SureColor 900. Epson frustrates me for 3 reasons - reds are hard, the paper does not feed the same each time (so top margins vary from page to page) and after a few months of use the paper does not feed well.

I hope to hear back from you soon! My SC P400 printers (both of them) are about to quit on me and I need something fast!

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

Which printer did you decide on AND are you happy with it?

You replied to me instead of the OP, Suzyyzus. Regardless, at first she bought an Epson P900, but had some problems with it, see:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65006718

and eventually got a full refund, see

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66318980

so she then bought a Canon Pro-1000, see

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66372501

 

[Euell]

I'm also debating between these two printers and I find myself leaning towards the Canon.

I've about reached the end of my patience with my Epson 3800! I'm tired of dealing with the constant ink clogs, head cleanings and nozzle checks. It's now showing the known issue of yellow ink being contaminated with the photo black ink.

Between the Epson p900 & Canon pro1000 I like the fact that the Canon has larger tanks, but I wish it had a roll paper option and longer maximum paper length like the Epson, but these aren't deal breakers for me. One thing for certain, I will never buy another printer that shares the matte and photo black channels!

I've owned several of the smaller Canon Photo all-in-one type printers including my current TS8220 and I've never had issues with ink clogs.

I don't print every day (I'm just a hobbyist) maybe once every week or so, but I like to have the ability to do my own printing and have complete control over the process.

Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated!

I'd also like to ask what you guys think would be a fair price to sell my 3800 for? I has the full set of inks installed, approximately half full, along with unused, sealed, and expired matte black and magenta carts. i would also include half used 100' rolls of premium luster and matte paper.

Thanks,

Frank

In my experience, the P900 is almost immune to ink clogs. In over two years of use I’ve had two minor clogs that were each resolved with a single cleaning cycle. And, I print sporadically. Certainly, this was very much improved from my prior 3880. Whether the P900 is the printer for you, I couldn’t say, but you need not worry that head clogging is likely to be an issue.

 

[Kristi R]

Thank you so much!! This was very helpful!