Why All The Single Photo Threads?

[skanter]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

...because it’s difficult to make comments on a large group of photos besides ”nice series”.

When you post a single photo it gives people a chance to look at it carefully, take some time with it, peruse it and make a considered response. Otherwise it’s just click, click, click from one photo to another.

IMO, best to let people go to your gallery or website to peruse all your work if they want to.

So it's people's short attention spans. I haven't seen any difference with responses in threads with multiple photos or with just one.

Few really take time looking at photos and writing responses. But for those who do, it is far better to be presented with one photo than 10 or 20 at a time.

I have liked many of your photos, but have found it difficult to comment with the sheer volume you have submitted here.

Why are you posting here?Have you looked at other’s’ photos, considered them and responded? What kind of response are you expecting from your own series?

As I stated before I was asked to rejoin DpReview to add some pep to a couple of forums by posting photos and answering questions.

Aren’t we fortunate!

I've looked at others but rarely found any worth commenting on

None up to your standards?

because I know the arguments that would start after giving constructive criticism.

Not if you are respectful and considerate about what you write, like many here are. This is a community of photgraphers.

Sorry, a single random photo doesn't do it for me.

So you only consider series of photos, never single ones? Each to his own - whatever.

Next we'll tackle the point by point response instead of the bottom response which is more annoying than the single photo thread.

Instead of “adding some pep” to the forum you seem to be complaining about it - a lot.

It's called a suggestion. The point by point response makes it difficult for others to respond to the conversation.

See you're already blowing this conversation out of proportion.

At the bottom of the page you will see “feedback” where you can make suggestions to the site’s coordinators.

The suggestion is for you

So now you’re unhappy with point-by-point responses, which are commonly used to clarify and prevent confusion.

Any other complaints, to “add some pep” to the forum?

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[fad]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

There have been three Threads, of longs standing, starting with Weekly Street Photography, that started in the Canon forum and moved here. Then Street Photography Exchange. Then The Art of Street Photography.

When they were active, there were strong photographers from around the world, and a high level of esthetic and technical criticism as well. They received a lot of interest and praise. They were a mecca for people who cared more about street photography than tryjng to defend "turf" (in an online phtography forum!).

There were problems -- a forum moderator who was an internet sociopath, and then no moderators at all. And then, while I don't need to PM anybody for you to guess what happened. Just a lot of nonsense that's self-defeating for all the parties involved.

 

[MikePennPhoto]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

There have been three Threads, of longs standing, starting with Weekly Street Photography, that started in the Canon forum and moved here. Then Street Photography Exchange. Then The Art of Street Photography.

When they were active, there were strong photographers from around the world, and a high level of esthetic and technical criticism as well. They received a lot of interest and praise. They were a mecca for people who cared more about street photography than tryjng to defend "turf" (in an online phtography forum!).

There were problems -- a forum moderator who was an internet sociopath, and then no moderators at all. And then, while I don't need to PM anybody for you to guess what happened. Just a lot of nonsense that's self-defeating for all the parties involved.

Thank you for both the explanation and for being sane. They are greatly appreciated.

 

[jeff hladun]

Next we'll tackle the point by point response instead of the bottom response which is more annoying than the single photo thread.

Amen.

 

[Ste_S]

I agree with a lot of Michael says.... but shame he's ruined it by being a bit of a prat.

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[MikePennPhoto]

Next we'll tackle the point by point response instead of the bottom response which is more annoying than the single photo thread.

Amen.

Thank you Jeff

 

[brilly]

I agree with a lot of Michael says.... but shame he's ruined it by being a bit of a prat.

post of the thread

 

[MikePennPhoto]

I agree with a lot of Michael says.... but shame he's ruined it by being a bit of a prat.

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[skanter]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

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[EOS GUY]

I have to agree. If you took several shots in a week / month, better to post in one thread than a daily slew of images.

Personally I find them all too much to wade through, what with work and other bits of life etc.

I'll try to put my own words into action as I used to just do a lot of single image threads troo

 

[Daedalus2000]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

 

[skanter]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

Sorry, you’re correct, I don’t understand your point. Every post goes to the top, it’s easy enough to scroll past 10-20 threads to go down as far as you like. What device are you viewing - a phone? On my ipad it’s a touch of the finger. On computer, a touch of the scroll wheel. One can avoid any user and scroll to any post one wants to see. I look at most posts, skip users I may not want to look at or avoid till later.

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

Don’t really see your issue. Scrolling is too difficult?

Are you suggesting people wait till they have a week’s worth of images, and post them all at once in one post? There are “photos of the week on many camera forums:

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...but a photo forum is different. We mainly post photos, not discussing gear.

 

[Daedalus2000]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

Sorry, you’re correct, I don’t understand your point. Every post goes to the top, it’s easy enough to scroll past 10-20 threads to go down as far as you like. What device are you viewing - a phone? On my ipad it’s a touch of the finger. On computer, a touch of the scroll wheel. One can avoid any user and scroll to any post one wants to see. I look at most posts, skip users I may not want to look at or avoid till later.

You still do not understand... It is not about you or me, is about posts getting lost because they move down the queue and eventually disappear before many people had a chance to see them

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

Don’t really see your issue. Scrolling is too difficult?

Seriously, is this the level of interaction that you want? You are asking me if I can scroll? Seriously? Have you thought that maybe this style of communication creates the wrong vibes in this forum?

BTW, You may have not noticed but I am one of the few people who go quite deep into the threads trying to comment on threads that are worth and have been ignored by the forum because someone posted mutliple threads and pushed them down the queue.

Are you suggesting people wait till they have a week’s worth of images, and post them all at once in one post? There are “photos of the week on many camera forums:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63118047

...but a photo forum is different. We mainly post photos, not discussing gear.

Yes, I would expect people to post a thread with 2-3 images rather than one image at a time. It does not have to be once a week, but definitely not multiple threads per day.

I hope I made my point clear. I know you like to post single images, so please continue to do as you like.

 

[skanter]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

Sorry, you’re correct, I don’t understand your point. Every post goes to the top, it’s easy enough to scroll past 10-20 threads to go down as far as you like. What device are you viewing - a phone? On my ipad it’s a touch of the finger. On computer, a touch of the scroll wheel. One can avoid any user and scroll to any post one wants to see. I look at most posts, skip users I may not want to look at or avoid till later.

You still do not understand... It is not about you or me, is about posts getting lost because they move down the queue and eventually disappear before many people had a chance to see them

No, I do not understand - I have no trouble scrolling as far as I need to to see older posts. I don’t know what you mean by “buried”. No posts “disappear’ - you can go back to previous pages if you want.

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

Don’t really see your issue. Scrolling is too difficult?

Seriously, is this the level of interaction that you want? You are asking me if I can scroll? Seriously? Have you thought that maybe this style of communication creates the wrong vibes in this forum?

I seriously do not understand what your issue is. Perhaps you can specify or explain further about why you have difficulty - instead of being defensive.

BTW, You may have not noticed but I am one of the few people who go quite deep into the threads trying to comment on threads that are worth and have been ignored by the forum because someone posted mutliple threads and pushed them down the queue.

So you feel like you are being ignored by the forum? That must not feel good. Is there another way you can feel more heard than trying to change other people’s posting style?

Are you suggesting people wait till they have a week’s worth of images, and post them all at once in one post? There are “photos of the week on many camera forums:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63118047

...but a photo forum is different. We mainly post photos, not discussing gear.

Yes, I would expect people to post a thread with 2-3 images rather than one image at a time. It does not have to be once a week, but definitely not multiple threads per day.

So you want us to post 2-3 images at a time, at what intervals? Should we make a rule regarding your individual preferences? Maybe you have to just accept that people have different posting styles, and that some are more prolific than other in photos, comments, and posts about photography? In general there is a smaller group that posts more than others, but that is not preventing anyone from posting as much as they want. Some people post nothing and just peruse, others are more active. Thats just the way it is. Some may be introverts, others extroverts.

I hope I made my point clear. I know you like to post single images, so please continue to do as you like.

Not really clear. Some post more than others. Some post many in a day, some don’t. I usually post a bunch after culling a few days worth, and then none for a while. I won’t post in groups unless it’s a connected series, as I prefer that people view one photo at a time without distraction, and then respond to that one photo. An arbitrary group obfuscates that process. YMMV

 

[Daedalus2000]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

Sorry, you’re correct, I don’t understand your point. Every post goes to the top, it’s easy enough to scroll past 10-20 threads to go down as far as you like. What device are you viewing - a phone? On my ipad it’s a touch of the finger. On computer, a touch of the scroll wheel. One can avoid any user and scroll to any post one wants to see. I look at most posts, skip users I may not want to look at or avoid till later.

You still do not understand... It is not about you or me, is about posts getting lost because they move down the queue and eventually disappear before many people had a chance to see them

No, I do not understand - I have no trouble scrolling as far as I need to to see older posts. I don’t know what you mean by “buried”. No posts “disappear’ - you can go back to previous pages if you want.

What one can do and what actually happens is not the same. Most people do not scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads, I do not know how many times I have to write the same things....

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

Don’t really see your issue. Scrolling is too difficult?

Seriously, is this the level of interaction that you want? You are asking me if I can scroll? Seriously? Have you thought that maybe this style of communication creates the wrong vibes in this forum?

I seriously do not understand what your issue is. Perhaps you can specify or explain further about why you have difficulty - instead of being defensive.

Sam, you seem to enjoy arguing with people. I explained multiple times what is the issue and you keep trying to make it personal. And I am defensive? You are the one asking me if I can scroll, I did not make any comments on you and your abilities.

BTW, You may have not noticed but I am one of the few people who go quite deep into the threads trying to comment on threads that are worth and have been ignored by the forum because someone posted mutliple threads and pushed them down the queue.

So you feel like you are being ignored by the forum? That must not feel good. Is there another way you can feel more heard than trying to change other people’s posting style?

Who told you I am ignored by the forum? Do you even read my threads? What sort of personal comment is this? Are you not able to discuss politely with someone, but you have to make it personal? Do you understand now why some people here see you as someone that likes to engage in personal arguments instead of promoting healthy dialogue?

FYI, I am happy with my engagement with the forum, I have no personal issues. That does not mean that I cannot identify something that I in my opinion can be improved.

Are you suggesting people wait till they have a week’s worth of images, and post them all at once in one post? There are “photos of the week on many camera forums:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63118047

...but a photo forum is different. We mainly post photos, not discussing gear.

Yes, I would expect people to post a thread with 2-3 images rather than one image at a time. It does not have to be once a week, but definitely not multiple threads per day.

So you want us to post 2-3 images at a time, at what intervals? Should we make a rule regarding your individual preferences? Maybe you have to just accept that people have different posting styles, and that some are more prolific than other in photos, comments, and posts about photography? In general there is a smaller group that posts more than others, but that is not preventing anyone from posting as much as they want. Some people post nothing and just peruse, others are more active. Thats just the way it is. Some may be introverts, others extroverts.

I hope I made my point clear. I know you like to post single images, so please continue to do as you like.

Not really clear. Some post more than others. Some post many in a day, some don’t. I usually post a bunch after culling a few days worth, and then none for a while. I won’t post in groups unless it’s a connected series, as I prefer that people view one photo at a time without distraction, and then respond to that one photo. An arbitrary group obfuscates that process. YMMV

What can I say. I feel you do not want to understand the point but you are happy to argue all day long... I think as a long term member of the forum you should have more responsibility for the quality of your interactions.

 

[skanter]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

Sorry, you’re correct, I don’t understand your point. Every post goes to the top, it’s easy enough to scroll past 10-20 threads to go down as far as you like. What device are you viewing - a phone? On my ipad it’s a touch of the finger. On computer, a touch of the scroll wheel. One can avoid any user and scroll to any post one wants to see. I look at most posts, skip users I may not want to look at or avoid till later.

You still do not understand... It is not about you or me, is about posts getting lost because they move down the queue and eventually disappear before many people had a chance to see them

No, I do not understand - I have no trouble scrolling as far as I need to to see older posts. I don’t know what you mean by “buried”. No posts “disappear’ - you can go back to previous pages if you want.

What one can do and what actually happens is not the same. Most people do not scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads, I do not know how many times I have to write the same things....

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

Don’t really see your issue. Scrolling is too difficult?

Seriously, is this the level of interaction that you want? You are asking me if I can scroll? Seriously? Have you thought that maybe this style of communication creates the wrong vibes in this forum?

I seriously do not understand what your issue is. Perhaps you can specify or explain further about why you have difficulty - instead of being defensive.

Sam, you seem to enjoy arguing with people. I explained multiple times what is the issue and you keep trying to make it personal. And I am defensive? You are the one asking me if I can scroll, I did not make any comments on you and your abilities.

I am not enjoying this, but trying to figure out why you are so upset with the forum. You are “arguing” as much as I am.

BTW, You may have not noticed but I am one of the few people who go quite deep into the threads trying to comment on threads that are worth and have been ignored by the forum because someone posted mutliple threads and pushed them down the queue.

So you feel like you are being ignored by the forum? That must not feel good. Is there another way you can feel more heard than trying to change other people’s posting style?

Who told you I am ignored by the forum? Do you even read my threads? What sort of personal comment is this? Are you not able to discuss politely with someone, but you have to make it personal? Do you understand now why some people here see you as someone that likes to engage in personal arguments instead of promoting healthy dialogue?

“I am one of the few people ...trying to comment on threads that are worth and have been ignored by the forum because someone posted mutliple threads and pushed them down the queue”

I may have misread this, you are saying -other- posters have been ignored and you are one of the few who do not ignore these people. Sorry.

FYI, I am happy with my engagement with the forum, I have no personal issues. That does not mean that I cannot identify something that I in my opinion can be improved.

Are you suggesting people wait till they have a week’s worth of images, and post them all at once in one post? There are “photos of the week on many camera forums:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63118047

...but a photo forum is different. We mainly post photos, not discussing gear.

Yes, I would expect people to post a thread with 2-3 images rather than one image at a time. It does not have to be once a week, but definitely not multiple threads per day.

So you want us to post 2-3 images at a time, at what intervals? Should we make a rule regarding your individual preferences? Maybe you have to just accept that people have different posting styles, and that some are more prolific than other in photos, comments, and posts about photography? In general there is a smaller group that posts more than others, but that is not preventing anyone from posting as much as they want. Some people post nothing and just peruse, others are more active. Thats just the way it is. Some may be introverts, others extroverts.

I hope I made my point clear. I know you like to post single images, so please continue to do as you like.

Not really clear. Some post more than others. Some post many in a day, some don’t. I usually post a bunch after culling a few days worth, and then none for a while. I won’t post in groups unless it’s a connected series, as I prefer that people view one photo at a time without distraction, and then respond to that one photo. An arbitrary group obfuscates that process. YMMV

What can I say. I feel you do not want to understand the point but you are happy to argue all day long... I think as a long term member of the forum you should have more responsibility for the quality of your interactions.

I am truly putting in effort trying to understand why you have these issues and others do not. But in my eyes, you are being defensive and making it personal, not me. Why not just try to clarify your point instead of accusing me of “liking to argue”? And, perhaps address the reasons I gave why i think multiple image posts are not a good idea?

Or just forget it. Not really important - just put the prolific posters on your ignore list.

--
Sam K., NYC
“I’m halfway between tightrope walker and pickpocket.” — HCB
—
Native New Yorker:
http://www.blurb.com/b/7943076
__
Street Gallery:
http://skanter.smugmug.com/NYC-Street-Photography
__
Recent Photos:
https://skanter.smugmug.com/Recent-Photos

 

[Ants Mani]

Forums are great for comments and the occasional image to back up an opinion but not so for just posting images. Thats why some individual forums have photo of the week threads organised weekly by moderators. Thematic threads don’t seem to have much impact either.

I guess it is a case of live with what is available, the fuji forum is pretty organised though the moderators can be a bit overzealous at times but generally let everything flow

Mostly it is because of the nature of the intranet one is between a rock and a even harder place, if one posts too much people become blasé if you don’t post enough you get forgotten

 

[skanter]

Forums are great for comments and the occasional image to back up an opinion but not so for just posting images. Thats why some individual forums have photo of the week threads organised weekly by moderators. Thematic threads don’t seem to have much impact either.

I guess it is a case of live with what is available, the fuji forum is pretty organised though the moderators can be a bit overzealous at times but generally let everything flow

Mostly because of the nature of the intranet one is between a rock and a even harder place, if one posts too much people become blasé if you don’t post enough you get forgotten

It’s an open, democratic forum - anyone can start any thread, post as much or as little as one wants, or just complain about everything! .

 

[Daedalus2000]

Instead of making several single photo posts a day why don't you just start a "photos of the day or week" thread.

One of the problems of the single photo threads is that a small number of people dominate the front page of the forum. When I had a few pictures I wanted to post recently, I had to use the single image approach, otherwise my thread would be buried within a couple of hours, with no feedback.

I do not think people realize how much they dominate the forum with their multiple threads. One evening I saw that within 12 hours one person posted 7-8 threads I cannot remember the exact number. He pushed everyone else almost out of sight.

Why can’t you just scroll past any posts you do not want to see to the ones you do want to see, no matter how old they are? It’s not like you can only view recent posts on top. Or, if you think someone posts too much, put them on ignore and avoid them altogether.

The software also lets you know, by highlighting, which post you have seen or haven’t seen.

This really doesn’t seem like a big issue. I’d much prefer to see single photo posts I can choose to look at or not, than one post with loads of photos which make it diffuse to focus and comment.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that when people post 10 images in 10 different threads they bury other people's work. Most people do not really scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads so if one person if occupying 5-10 of the top 20-30 threads he/she stops other people showing their work. We should try to aim more for quality and not quantity.

Sorry, you’re correct, I don’t understand your point. Every post goes to the top, it’s easy enough to scroll past 10-20 threads to go down as far as you like. What device are you viewing - a phone? On my ipad it’s a touch of the finger. On computer, a touch of the scroll wheel. One can avoid any user and scroll to any post one wants to see. I look at most posts, skip users I may not want to look at or avoid till later.

You still do not understand... It is not about you or me, is about posts getting lost because they move down the queue and eventually disappear before many people had a chance to see them

No, I do not understand - I have no trouble scrolling as far as I need to to see older posts. I don’t know what you mean by “buried”. No posts “disappear’ - you can go back to previous pages if you want.

What one can do and what actually happens is not the same. Most people do not scroll beyond the first 20-30 threads, I do not know how many times I have to write the same things....

For me, yes unfortunately I had to put people in the ignore list to clear the list (for me). How am I supposed to know which posts I am interested in if I do not see them. So at the end I had to filter by people unfortunately.

Don’t really see your issue. Scrolling is too difficult?

Seriously, is this the level of interaction that you want? You are asking me if I can scroll? Seriously? Have you thought that maybe this style of communication creates the wrong vibes in this forum?

I seriously do not understand what your issue is. Perhaps you can specify or explain further about why you have difficulty - instead of being defensive.

Sam, you seem to enjoy arguing with people. I explained multiple times what is the issue and you keep trying to make it personal. And I am defensive? You are the one asking me if I can scroll, I did not make any comments on you and your abilities.

I am not enjoying this, but trying to figure out why you are so upset with the forum. You are “arguing” as much as I am.

I am not actually upset, I made a suggestion, and the catalyst was that one day I saw someone posting 6-7 threads with the space of a few hours.

“I am one of the few people ...trying to comment on threads that are worth and have been ignored by the forum because someone posted mutliple threads and pushed them down the queue”

I may have misread this, you are saying -other- posters have been ignored and you are one of the few who do not ignore these people. Sorry.

I was trying to let you know that I make an effort to read all posts and respond even to posts that are further back in the queue

FYI, I am happy with my engagement with the forum, I have no personal issues. That does not mean that I cannot identify something that I in my opinion can be improved.

Are you suggesting people wait till they have a week’s worth of images, and post them all at once in one post? There are “photos of the week on many camera forums:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63118047

...but a photo forum is different. We mainly post photos, not discussing gear.

Yes, I would expect people to post a thread with 2-3 images rather than one image at a time. It does not have to be once a week, but definitely not multiple threads per day.

So you want us to post 2-3 images at a time, at what intervals? Should we make a rule regarding your individual preferences? Maybe you have to just accept that people have different posting styles, and that some are more prolific than other in photos, comments, and posts about photography? In general there is a smaller group that posts more than others, but that is not preventing anyone from posting as much as they want. Some people post nothing and just peruse, others are more active. Thats just the way it is. Some may be introverts, others extroverts.

I hope I made my point clear. I know you like to post single images, so please continue to do as you like.

Not really clear. Some post more than others. Some post many in a day, some don’t. I usually post a bunch after culling a few days worth, and then none for a while. I won’t post in groups unless it’s a connected series, as I prefer that people view one photo at a time without distraction, and then respond to that one photo. An arbitrary group obfuscates that process. YMMV

What can I say. I feel you do not want to understand the point but you are happy to argue all day long... I think as a long term member of the forum you should have more responsibility for the quality of your interactions.

I am truly putting in effort trying to understand why you have these issues and others do not. But in my eyes, you are being defensive and making it personal, not me.

Seriously, how did you arrive at this conclusion? You questioned my ability to scroll, you said that I am unhappy with my engagement with the forum (not true), that I try to change people's posting patterns to get more engagement, that I am defensive etc

I said nothing about you, I told you to do what you like doing... How am I the one making it personal?

Why not just try to clarify your point instead of accusing me of “liking to argue”?

I believe I stated my point/suggestion. I am not upset or anything, it is just a suggestion, that is all. The internet does not help these types of discussions, too many misunderstandings and assumptions about what someone is trying to say.

So lets leave it please.

 

[Ants Mani]

Forums are great for comments and the occasional image to back up an opinion but not so for just posting images. Thats why some individual forums have photo of the week threads organised weekly by moderators. Thematic threads don’t seem to have much impact either.

I guess it is a case of live with what is available, the fuji forum is pretty organised though the moderators can be a bit overzealous at times but generally let everything flow

Mostly because of the nature of the intranet one is between a rock and a even harder place, if one posts too much people become blasé if you don’t post enough you get forgotten

It’s an open, democratic forum - anyone can start any thread, post as much or as little as one wants, or just complain about everything! .

That I know but here most are writing about how best it can be organised

(it should say internet the usual auto spelling caper)