Good price on heavily used D810: thoughts?

[starbase218]

I was kind of looking to buy a used D750, but found a D810 online instead for 1000 euros that is supposed to be in good condition. But when I asked a little bit further, I found that the shuttercount is about 300000. According to the owner, though, the camera was serviced at around 250000 clicks, and this included a replacement of the curtain.

On one hand, I’d still like a tilt screen and lighter weight of the D750. On the other, I feel like this could be a bargain. And even if I do want that D750, I may be able to sell this D810 on with no loss. This is assuming the camera really is in good condition, though.

The only unknown, to me, is the impact of a shuttercount of 300000. Could anyone comment on that?

 

[camerosity]

I was kind of looking to buy a used D750, but found a D810 online instead for 1000 euros that is supposed to be in good condition. But when I asked a little bit further, I found that the shuttercount is about 300000. According to the owner, though, the camera was serviced at around 250000 clicks, and this included a replacement of the curtain.

On one hand, I’d still like a tilt screen and lighter weight of the D750. On the other, I feel like this could be a bargain. And even if I do want that D750, I may be able to sell this D810 on with no loss. This is assuming the camera really is in good condition, though.

The only unknown, to me, is the impact of a shuttercount of 300000. Could anyone comment on that?

I think the price for the number of shutter clicks is a little high. But you can't go wrong with either camera. I love the D750 but have returned to my D810 recently after a couple years with the D750. I prefer the look of the images out of the D810 vs. the D750 and I prefer the controls and extra pixels it offers.

 

[James809]

The rest of the camera still has pushing 300k clicks, even with the curtain replaced.

 

[SoCalWill]

No with a capital F. I just bought a used copy with ~30k actuations for $1,300/€1,140.

 

[Smitty1]

I was kind of looking to buy a used D750, but found a D810 online instead for 1000 euros that is supposed to be in good condition. But when I asked a little bit further, I found that the shuttercount is about 300000. According to the owner, though, the camera was serviced at around 250000 clicks, and this included a replacement of the curtain.

On one hand, I’d still like a tilt screen and lighter weight of the D750. On the other, I feel like this could be a bargain. And even if I do want that D750, I may be able to sell this D810 on with no loss. This is assuming the camera really is in good condition, though.

The only unknown, to me, is the impact of a shuttercount of 300000. Could anyone comment on that?

I would pass on that.

You'll likely end up replacing parts if you keep it for more than a few months and use it regularly at which point you'd have been better off with a fresh copy from the start.

Just spend a little more and find a lower shutter count copy. And make sure its serial number coincides with the region in which you live. IMO

 

[Schrodingers_cat]

That's way, way past my maximum use threshold for used stuff.

 

[Tony Beach]

Look for a lower count camera. IMO, the D800 and D800E are essentially as good as a D750 and a lightly used D810 is better for similar money to a new D750.

 

[Historicity]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

Next I did a camera comparison: the D800 to the D800e and the D800e to the D810 while at the same time checking prices on eBay. I discovered that the image quality (my main concern) was marginal between the D800 and D800e and marginal again between the D800e and D810. The eBay prices were another matter. Getting a low shutter count D800e was around $200 to $300 more than a D800. Getting a low shutter-count D810 was more like $500 to $700 more than the D800e. I opted for a D800e with about 5500 shutter clicks on it from Japan for about $860 and have been very happy with it. I was looking at a similar quality D810 at the time and it had a buy-it-now price of around $1300.

You might think that it would be worthwhile to get your used D810 with a little less than 300,000 clicks on it for less money than I spent on the D800e, let alone the D810. But the D800 through the D810 is to a large extent the same camera. Also the shutter-count number doesn't pertain just to the shutter. Shutter life is something that can be measured, and it is the only measurable indicator we have of the wear and tear on the camera.

Lawrence

 

[briantilley]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

The D750 has two card slots.

 

[camerosity]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

D750 has two SD card slots

Next I did a camera comparison: the D800 to the D800e and the D800e to the D810 while at the same time checking prices on eBay. I discovered that the image quality (my main concern) was marginal between the D800 and D800e and marginal again between the D800e and D810. The eBay prices were another matter. Getting a low shutter count D800e was around $200 to $300 more than a D800. Getting a low shutter-count D810 was more like $500 to $700 more than the D800e. I opted for a D800e with about 5500 shutter clicks on it from Japan for about $860 and have been very happy with it. I was looking at a similar quality D810 at the time and it had a buy-it-now price of around $1300.

D810 is a big upgrade from D800 series, in my experience. Even the grip was redesigned and is much better. I would not recommend to anyone the D800 series unless they had a very tight budget. Even the D810 is nearly a 5 year old camera now.

You might think that it would be worthwhile to get your used D810 with a little less than 300,000 clicks on it for less money than I spent on the D800e, let alone the D810. But the D800 through the D810 is to a large extent the same camera. Also the shutter-count number doesn't pertain just to the shutter. Shutter life is something that can be measured, and it is the only measurable indicator we have of the wear and tear on the camera.

Wrong. The D810 was a big upgrade from the D800 series.

Lawrence

 

[polizonte]

I paid $1400 for a D810 with less than 7000 clicks.

 

[Historicity]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

The D750 has two card slots.

You are right. My mistake.

Lawrence

 

[Historicity]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

D750 has two SD card slots

Next I did a camera comparison: the D800 to the D800e and the D800e to the D810 while at the same time checking prices on eBay. I discovered that the image quality (my main concern) was marginal between the D800 and D800e and marginal again between the D800e and D810. The eBay prices were another matter. Getting a low shutter count D800e was around $200 to $300 more than a D800. Getting a low shutter-count D810 was more like $500 to $700 more than the D800e. I opted for a D800e with about 5500 shutter clicks on it from Japan for about $860 and have been very happy with it. I was looking at a similar quality D810 at the time and it had a buy-it-now price of around $1300.

D810 is a big upgrade from D800 series, in my experience. Even the grip was redesigned and is much better. I would not recommend to anyone the D800 series unless they had a very tight budget. Even the D810 is nearly a 5 year old camera now.

The D810 is in the D800 series. I frankly was concentrating on image quality and not on features.

You might think that it would be worthwhile to get your used D810 with a little less than 300,000 clicks on it for less money than I spent on the D800e, let alone the D810. But the D800 through the D810 is to a large extent the same camera. Also the shutter-count number doesn't pertain just to the shutter. Shutter life is something that can be measured, and it is the only measurable indicator we have of the wear and tear on the camera.

Wrong. The D810 was a big upgrade from the D800 series.

It depends on what you are looking at.

Lawrence

 

[camerosity]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

D750 has two SD card slots

Next I did a camera comparison: the D800 to the D800e and the D800e to the D810 while at the same time checking prices on eBay. I discovered that the image quality (my main concern) was marginal between the D800 and D800e and marginal again between the D800e and D810. The eBay prices were another matter. Getting a low shutter count D800e was around $200 to $300 more than a D800. Getting a low shutter-count D810 was more like $500 to $700 more than the D800e. I opted for a D800e with about 5500 shutter clicks on it from Japan for about $860 and have been very happy with it. I was looking at a similar quality D810 at the time and it had a buy-it-now price of around $1300.

D810 is a big upgrade from D800 series, in my experience. Even the grip was redesigned and is much better. I would not recommend to anyone the D800 series unless they had a very tight budget. Even the D810 is nearly a 5 year old camera now.

The D810 is in the D800 series. I frankly was concentrating on image quality and not on features.

When I buy a camera, I don't just consider image quality.

You might think that it would be worthwhile to get your used D810 with a little less than 300,000 clicks on it for less money than I spent on the D800e, let alone the D810. But the D800 through the D810 is to a large extent the same camera. Also the shutter-count number doesn't pertain just to the shutter. Shutter life is something that can be measured, and it is the only measurable indicator we have of the wear and tear on the camera.

Wrong. The D810 was a big upgrade from the D800 series.

It depends on what you are looking at

Having owned both I am speaking from experience.

 

[Bird pics]

Just for reference I just got a n810 with 2227 actual snaps in perfect condition for 1300 I think the price is a little high.

Steve

 

[Historicity]

I'll add my "no," to those of the others. I recently was interested in a FF Nikon in the range you are talking about, did a ton of research. Eliminated the D750 partly because of early shutter problems (not to the same extent as the D600s but something to think about), but also its one card slot and its 150,000 shutter-count- listing suggested it was not in the D8XX semi-pro class in terms of build.

D750 has two SD card slots

Next I did a camera comparison: the D800 to the D800e and the D800e to the D810 while at the same time checking prices on eBay. I discovered that the image quality (my main concern) was marginal between the D800 and D800e and marginal again between the D800e and D810. The eBay prices were another matter. Getting a low shutter count D800e was around $200 to $300 more than a D800. Getting a low shutter-count D810 was more like $500 to $700 more than the D800e. I opted for a D800e with about 5500 shutter clicks on it from Japan for about $860 and have been very happy with it. I was looking at a similar quality D810 at the time and it had a buy-it-now price of around $1300.

D810 is a big upgrade from D800 series, in my experience. Even the grip was redesigned and is much better. I would not recommend to anyone the D800 series unless they had a very tight budget. Even the D810 is nearly a 5 year old camera now.

The D810 is in the D800 series. I frankly was concentrating on image quality and not on features.

When I buy a camera, I don't just consider image quality.

I understand. Perhaps that is true of most people, but I did qualify my comment above by saying that image quality was my main concern.

You might think that it would be worthwhile to get your used D810 with a little less than 300,000 clicks on it for less money than I spent on the D800e, let alone the D810. But the D800 through the D810 is to a large extent the same camera. Also the shutter-count number doesn't pertain just to the shutter. Shutter life is something that can be measured, and it is the only measurable indicator we have of the wear and tear on the camera.

Wrong. The D810 was a big upgrade from the D800 series.

It depends on what you are looking at

Having owned both I am speaking from experience.

I understand that as well, but I was writing to the OP from the standpoint of having taken some of the same steps he did. I reviewed pretty much all the data I could find and thought some of my conclusions might be of use to him.

I'm a retired engineer, used to dealing with technical data, but not so much interested in arguing. Sorry, if I offended you or anyone else. Here is one of the references that caused me to think the difference between the D800e and the D810 (in the area of my interest) was small: https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D810-versus-Nikon-D800E___963_814

 

[Historicity]

Just for reference I just got a n810 with 2227 actual snaps in perfect condition for 1300 I think the price is a little high.

Steve

Steve, $1300 was about the number I saw for a couple of D810s with very low shutter counts when I was looking for a used FF a couple of weeks ago. At the time I looked I didn't think I could do better than $1300 for a D810 and so ended up buying a D800e with about 5,000 shutter snaps for about $865. If I was convinced at the time that the difference between the D810 and the D800e was significant in regard to image quality, I would have coughed up the additional $500 or so, but I wasn't, and in hopes of avoiding another "WRONG," I'll admit at once that I might be wrong. ;-)

Lawrence

 

[bjn70]

I was kind of looking to buy a used D750, but found a D810 online instead for 1000 euros that is supposed to be in good condition. But when I asked a little bit further, I found that the shuttercount is about 300000.

Prices have been falling a lot recently. Check around and see if you can't find one with closer to 30k clicks for that price. A camera with 300,000 clicks might work fine, and might go to 350,000 clicks or might only go to 300,001 clicks. I would think a camera of this much use would be worth half or one third as much as a camera with 30k clicks because you know that it isn't going to last forever.

 

[David5833]

starbase218 wrote

:....when I asked a little bit further, I found that the shuttercount is about 300000. According to the owner, though, the camera was serviced at around 250000 clicks, and this included a replacement of the curtain.

Check with Nikon about the cost of shutter replacement; IIRC, it isn't all that expensive compared to the cost of a new D810, maybe a few hundred USD, and might be a negotiating point. If all the important stuff was truly refreshed at 250k clicks, it might be OK. Ask the seller for the shop invoice and talk with Nikon. I probably wouldn't take a chance on something that heavily used unless it was really dirt cheap (and it doesn't sound like this one is) but YMMV.

On one hand, I’d still like a tilt screen and lighter weight of the D750. On the other, I feel like this could be a bargain.

If you really want a D750, then it doesn't make sense to me to buy a D810 just because it is a bargain.

 

[Digital Shutterbug]

Just for reference, I received my new-to-me D750 yesterday. It has less than 1300 clicks and is in pristine condition. I got the body, the grip, 6 batteries (4 Nikon), 3 chargers (2 Nikon), and a Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 lens. All original boxes, manuals and accessories also included. All of this for 1600 USD, shipped to my door. Unexpectedly, the previous owner tossed in a Nikkor 35mm f/2 D lens as a freebie.

Considering the condition of everything, and the low mileage, I'm as happy as a pig in mud. I would have liked a D810, but couldn't find a bargain on one with low usage.

It's nice to be back in the Nikon family after giving up on DSLR gear for a long spell.