FZ1000 teleconverter

[Nywrecker]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

I see quite a few on line but of doubious specifications.

If any FZ1000 users of the forum have examples of pictures with the converter, I would appreciate if you can post them.

TIA

 

[sherman_levine]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

I see quite a few on line but of doubious specifications.

If any FZ1000 users of the forum have examples of pictures with the converter, I would appreciate if you can post them.

TIA

If you hang a teleconverter on the lens of the FZ1000 the lens has to support the converter weight. Bad idea in general, although some have used devices to support the weight.

The 1/2.3" sensor panasonics (FZ80, FZ200, FZ300) have body threads to which you can attach an adapter tube, and that in turn carries the weight of the teleconverter.

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Sherm
Sherms flickr page

P900 album

 

[Dak on cam]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

I see quite a few on line but of doubious specifications.

If any FZ1000 users of the forum have examples of pictures with the converter, I would appreciate if you can post them.

I don't know what counts as "good" in relation to the FZ1000. It probably has a teleconverter setting catering for the known deficiencies and image stabilization factor of the DMW-LT55 from Panasonic itself. When shooting from a tripod, the exact factor is probably not an issue but you'll likely want a lens clamp to support the camera close to its new center of gravity.

The FZ1000 supposedly has very good image quality and resolution. Finding a teleconverter that delivers better results than just cropping and/or digital magnification will likely be a tough call.

It's probably safe to run from converters that cost about $20 new. It's also likely safe to run from the Canon TC-DC58N which would have the right conversion factor.

The FZ1000 can offer a comparatively narrow depth of field. Teleconverters known to be prone to purple fringing (which is predominantly due to UV being out of focus) will likely put on quite the show.

That would be another reason to look for the Nikon converters containing ED elements. The TC-E17ED is very much sought after (and consequently ridiculously expensive: you can probably extend your range cheaper by getting a whole DMC-TZ72 camera) but would be the one matching the magnification factor 1.7x of the "intended" extender from Panasonic themselves. If you can actually set the magnification factor (or plan to shoot from tripod exclusively) the TC-E15ED would likely also fit the bill at a magnification factor of 1.5x.

 

[evetsf]

I've tried teleconverters on different fixed-lens cameras - including the FZ1000 - and in general have not been happy with the results: IQ invariably is lower than just cropping & maybe resizing the image in post processing. Then there's the issue already raised of hanging a heavy weight off the end of a lens mechanism not designed for this use.

Might want to reconsider...

Steve

 

[Jon_T]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

I see quite a few on line but of doubious specifications.

If any FZ1000 users of the forum have examples of pictures with the converter, I would appreciate if you can post them.

I don't know what counts as "good" in relation to the FZ1000. It probably has a teleconverter setting catering for the known deficiencies and image stabilization factor of the DMW-LT55 from Panasonic itself. ...

No the FZ1000 does not have a TC setting as the FZ1000 NOT design to use any TC adapter like the FZ300, FZ200, etc.

Please verify the facts before posting incorrect information.

Cheers,
Jon

 

[Jon_T]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

As others have already posted the FZ1000 was not designed like the FZ300, FZ200, etc. to use a TC.

Nor was the lens zooming mechanisms designed to operate with any TC attached to the lens 'filter' threads.

Can use the Camera Record Setting > Picture Size > "M 10m". This takes a 10 MP central crop (i.e., not digital zoom) with provides FOV (field of view) 560mm 35mm equiv.

Can also use the 10M setting with iZoom that will provide 1124mm 35mm equiv.

The 10M and iZoom 'can' provide good enough images for online viewing and 4" x 6" at low ISO and the subject fills the image area; i.e.,


10MP; 1124mm equiv




10MP; 1124mm equiv.




10MP; 1124MM equiv

Cheers,
Jon

 

[Dak on cam]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

I see quite a few on line but of doubious specifications.

If any FZ1000 users of the forum have examples of pictures with the converter, I would appreciate if you can post them.

I don't know what counts as "good" in relation to the FZ1000. It probably has a teleconverter setting catering for the known deficiencies and image stabilization factor of the DMW-LT55 from Panasonic itself. ...

No the FZ1000 does not have a TC setting as the FZ1000 NOT design to use any TC adapter like the FZ300, FZ200, etc.

Please verify the facts before posting incorrect information.

The word "probably" is commonly used to indicate that no verified statements of fact are being made.

Thank you for filling in the factual information easily accessible to you. Now if this would have been all I had been writing or irrelevant regarding the other things I wrote, there might have been a point in not writing anything at all or omitting that part, respectively.

The rest, however, was not unrelated but your correction definitely served to put it into the correct perspective, making it less useful than if my assumption would have worked out.

I admit to being somewhat puzzled by Panasonic not providing similar threads as those on the FZ200 because while the overall image quality and effective resolution of the FZ1000 will likely not make the vast majority of previously available tele converters a net win, on the FZ200 the extension tube adapter is also proscribed to fitting Panasonic's own achromatic closeup lens, and closeup lenses would also make sense in connection with the FZ1000.

Does the FZ1000 documentation (and camera internal menus) suggest mounting those on the lens threads directly, or does it not provide for their ilk?

I certainly could try downloading Panasonic's documentation and search it but then what is the forum for if not for ready exchange of personal knowledge? And if Panasonic's documentation was really authoritive with what one could and could not do and easily accessible, there would be less of a third-party market for tutorials and books.

 

[sherman_levine]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any goods ones out there for the FZ1000.

I see quite a few on line but of doubious specifications.

If any FZ1000 users of the forum have examples of pictures with the converter, I would appreciate if you can post them.

I don't know what counts as "good" in relation to the FZ1000. It probably has a teleconverter setting catering for the known deficiencies and image stabilization factor of the DMW-LT55 from Panasonic itself. ...

No the FZ1000 does not have a TC setting as the FZ1000 NOT design to use any TC adapter like the FZ300, FZ200, etc.

Please verify the facts before posting incorrect information.

The word "probably" is commonly used to indicate that no verified statements of fact are being made.

Thank you for filling in the factual information easily accessible to you. Now if this would have been all I had been writing or irrelevant regarding the other things I wrote, there might have been a point in not writing anything at all or omitting that part, respectively.

The rest, however, was not unrelated but your correction definitely served to put it into the correct perspective, making it less useful than if my assumption would have worked out.

I admit to being somewhat puzzled by Panasonic not providing similar threads as those on the FZ200 because while the overall image quality and effective resolution of the FZ1000 will likely not make the vast majority of previously available tele converters a net win, on the FZ200 the extension tube adapter is also proscribed to fitting Panasonic's own achromatic closeup lens, and closeup lenses would also make sense in connection with the FZ1000.

Does the FZ1000 documentation (and camera internal menus) suggest mounting those on the lens threads directly, or does it not provide for their ilk?

I certainly could try downloading Panasonic's documentation and search it but then what is the forum for if not for ready exchange of personal knowledge? And if Panasonic's documentation was really authoritive with what one could and could not do and easily accessible, there would be less of a third-party market for tutorials and books.

Sure. Close-up lenses are light and you can mount them on the camera lens.

One advantage of the FZ200 (etc) mounting tube is that the closeup lens is held stationary and focus is well-maintained throughout the zoom range.

With the FZ1000, changing the zoom changes the distance between the closeup lens and the subject, so you need to move the camera when you change the zoom.

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Sherm
Sherms flickr page

P900 album

 

[bper]

"Can use the Camera Record Setting > Picture Size > "M 10m". This takes a 10 MP central crop (i.e., not digital zoom) with provides FOV (field of view) 560mm 35mm equiv.

Can also use the 10M setting with iZoom that will provide 1124mm 35mm equiv.

The 10M and iZoom 'can' provide good enough images for online viewing and 4" x 6" at low ISO and the subject fills the image area; i.e.,"

I recently purchased an FZ1000 and after reading Jon's post above, I ran some quick, non-scientific test. I have enclosed the 3 images I took at a shutter speed of 500.

#1 is at the 10M setting with full iZoom = 1124mm eq.

#2 is at the 10M setting with no iZoom = 562mm eq.

#3 is an 8M image pulled from a 4K video = 592mm eq.

I'm not going to comment other than to say I shot them handheld, OIS on and with my elbows solid on my desk, so they should be similar. Both #2 and #3 look like they have potential, but I am not sure about max iZoom in #1.

Hope this non-scientific test gets some food for thought going. Looking forward to becoming more familiar with my new camera - bper



10MP w/iZoom =1124 eq.


10M = 562 eq.


8MP from video = 592 eq.

 

[Nywrecker]

Hi Jon, your images at 1124mm equivalent are very impressive.

My shots at 800mm equivalent are pretty good, however I was very disappointed when I combined iZoom plus digital zoom for 1600mm equivalency.

I will try your settings and see how I make out. Thanks.

 

[Rodger1943]

As far as I know there is no suitable teleconverter for the FZ1000. I have tried the TCON-17 and the image quality was much worse than cropping. The camera doesn't have the support necessary to attach one. There is also no option in the menu for the teleconverter, unlike the FZ200/300 and that may be a tacit clue from Panasonic that the camera is not suitable for such a device.

In my opinion, don't waste your time looking. I use iZoom and EOZ for longer reach and on many occasions they can give excellent results, but make 1124mm your limit, at 1600mm, the image degradation is noticeable.

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Panasonic FZ1000 FZ200 SOny RX10 iv

 

[Nywrecker]

As far as I know there is no suitable teleconverter for the FZ1000. I have tried the TCON-17 and the image quality was much worse than cropping. The camera doesn't have the support necessary to attach one. There is also no option in the menu for the teleconverter, unlike the FZ200/300 and that may be a tacit clue from Panasonic that the camera is not suitable for such a device.

In my opinion, don't waste your time looking. I use iZoom and EOZ for longer reach and on many occasions they can give excellent results, but make 1124mm your limit, at 1600mm, the image degradation is noticeable.

I agree, especially your last paragraph