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I found a way to use the touch bar that I really like, so I thought I'd share it.

The way I shoot, I only use two AF modes: face detect and single point. So I disabled all the other AF options (like zone) and then assigned the touch bar to switch AF modes. Now I just swipe left to go to face detect and swipe right to go to single point. It's instantaneous, there's no guessing, and if it's in the wrong mode (e.g., I hit it by accident at some point), it's simple to swipe to what I want. So you can just leave it unlocked. You can even absent-mindedly swipe as you lift the camera to your eye, so that it's definitely in the mode you want. This actually makes the touch bar a good thing, because there's no resistance unlike a wheel or a toggle switch.

I also mapped the left tap to toggle the digital level and the right tap to toggle the AF point size, because neither of those are all that damaging to hit accidentally and are easy to undo simply by hitting it again.

So basically, I think the key to happiness with the touch bar is to use it for toggling things. Canon may have intended it as a scrolling interface, but I don't think it works all that well for that, given that it's imprecise, lacking haptic feedback, and prone to accidental activation. So in that spirit, here are some ideas for a Canon firmware update to improve the touch bar:

* Allow more toggle-oriented options, like being able to set the touch bar to toggle between just two AF modes while still allowing access to all AF modes in the main menu.

* Allow replacing the scroll action with "tap left", "swipe left", "tap right", and "swipe right" as the four supported actions instead, in effect giving us four virtual programmable buttons.

* Allow specific absolute settings , like "swipe left = set AF mode to face detect" or "swipe right = turn mirror lock on".

One other thought that came to mind: if Canon really really wants to make scroll work on the touch bar, maybe offer an option to require a "commit" instead of the delay lock. So accidentally swiping would look like you're scrolling through, say, the ISO values, but unless you then commit by tapping the touch bar within a few milliseconds, it just springs back to the current ISO. So switching the ISO would be something like swipe-swipe-swipe-tap. Notice that this also has to allow for multiple swipes to keep swiping. And to mitigate the imprecision factor, slow down the scroll and maybe even offer an audible click option so people can "count the clicks" to get to the setting they want.
 
Great ideas. I was looking for a way to easily switch AF modes. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks

Edit: Took me I while to figure out the options but I'm liking it now. Much better solution to the touch bar sliding issues. Excellent.
 
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I found a way to use the touch bar that I really like, so I thought I'd share it.

The way I shoot, I only use two AF modes: face detect and single point. So I disabled all the other AF options (like zone) and then assigned the touch bar to switch AF modes. Now I just swipe left to go to face detect and swipe right to go to single point. It's instantaneous, there's no guessing, and if it's in the wrong mode (e.g., I hit it by accident at some point), it's simple to swipe to what I want. So you can just leave it unlocked. You can even absent-mindedly swipe as you lift the camera to your eye, so that it's definitely in the mode you want. This actually makes the touch bar a good thing, because there's no resistance unlike a wheel or a toggle switch.

I also mapped the left tap to toggle the digital level and the right tap to toggle the AF point size, because neither of those are all that damaging to hit accidentally and are easy to undo simply by hitting it again.

So basically, I think the key to happiness with the touch bar is to use it for toggling things. Canon may have intended it as a scrolling interface, but I don't think it works all that well for that, given that it's imprecise, lacking haptic feedback, and prone to accidental activation. So in that spirit, here are some ideas for a Canon firmware update to improve the touch bar:

* Allow more toggle-oriented options, like being able to set the touch bar to toggle between just two AF modes while still allowing access to all AF modes in the main menu.

* Allow replacing the scroll action with "tap left", "swipe left", "tap right", and "swipe right" as the four supported actions instead, in effect giving us four virtual programmable buttons.

* Allow specific absolute settings , like "swipe left = set AF mode to face detect" or "swipe right = turn mirror lock on".

One other thought that came to mind: if Canon really really wants to make scroll work on the touch bar, maybe offer an option to require a "commit" instead of the delay lock. So accidentally swiping would look like you're scrolling through, say, the ISO values, but unless you then commit by tapping the touch bar within a few milliseconds, it just springs back to the current ISO. So switching the ISO would be something like swipe-swipe-swipe-tap. Notice that this also has to allow for multiple swipes to keep swiping. And to mitigate the imprecision factor, slow down the scroll and maybe even offer an audible click option so people can "count the clicks" to get to the setting they want.
That is a cool option Man..... Thanks
 
nice share... I actually have it set the same way, except I have the left tap to turning on eye detect when in tracking mode.

Cheers
 
I found a way to use the touch bar that I really like, so I thought I'd share it.

The way I shoot, I only use two AF modes: face detect and single point. So I disabled all the other AF options (like zone) and then assigned the touch bar to switch AF modes. Now I just swipe left to go to face detect and swipe right to go to single point. It's instantaneous, there's no guessing, and if it's in the wrong mode (e.g., I hit it by accident at some point), it's simple to swipe to what I want. So you can just leave it unlocked. You can even absent-mindedly swipe as you lift the camera to your eye, so that it's definitely in the mode you want. This actually makes the touch bar a good thing, because there's no resistance unlike a wheel or a toggle switch.

I also mapped the left tap to toggle the digital level and the right tap to toggle the AF point size, because neither of those are all that damaging to hit accidentally and are easy to undo simply by hitting it again.

So basically, I think the key to happiness with the touch bar is to use it for toggling things. Canon may have intended it as a scrolling interface, but I don't think it works all that well for that, given that it's imprecise, lacking haptic feedback, and prone to accidental activation. So in that spirit, here are some ideas for a Canon firmware update to improve the touch bar:

* Allow more toggle-oriented options, like being able to set the touch bar to toggle between just two AF modes while still allowing access to all AF modes in the main menu.

* Allow replacing the scroll action with "tap left", "swipe left", "tap right", and "swipe right" as the four supported actions instead, in effect giving us four virtual programmable buttons.

* Allow specific absolute settings , like "swipe left = set AF mode to face detect" or "swipe right = turn mirror lock on".

One other thought that came to mind: if Canon really really wants to make scroll work on the touch bar, maybe offer an option to require a "commit" instead of the delay lock. So accidentally swiping would look like you're scrolling through, say, the ISO values, but unless you then commit by tapping the touch bar within a few milliseconds, it just springs back to the current ISO. So switching the ISO would be something like swipe-swipe-swipe-tap. Notice that this also has to allow for multiple swipes to keep swiping. And to mitigate the imprecision factor, slow down the scroll and maybe even offer an audible click option so people can "count the clicks" to get to the setting they want.
Cool! Thank you for having shared. Will try it.
 
I found a way to use the touch bar that I really like, so I thought I'd share it.

The way I shoot, I only use two AF modes: face detect and single point. So I disabled all the other AF options (like zone) and then assigned the touch bar to switch AF modes. Now I just swipe left to go to face detect and swipe right to go to single point. It's instantaneous, there's no guessing, and if it's in the wrong mode (e.g., I hit it by accident at some point), it's simple to swipe to what I want. So you can just leave it unlocked. You can even absent-mindedly swipe as you lift the camera to your eye, so that it's definitely in the mode you want. This actually makes the touch bar a good thing, because there's no resistance unlike a wheel or a toggle switch.

I also mapped the left tap to toggle the digital level and the right tap to toggle the AF point size, because neither of those are all that damaging to hit accidentally and are easy to undo simply by hitting it again.

So basically, I think the key to happiness with the touch bar is to use it for toggling things. Canon may have intended it as a scrolling interface, but I don't think it works all that well for that, given that it's imprecise, lacking haptic feedback, and prone to accidental activation. So in that spirit, here are some ideas for a Canon firmware update to improve the touch bar:

* Allow more toggle-oriented options, like being able to set the touch bar to toggle between just two AF modes while still allowing access to all AF modes in the main menu.

* Allow replacing the scroll action with "tap left", "swipe left", "tap right", and "swipe right" as the four supported actions instead, in effect giving us four virtual programmable buttons.

* Allow specific absolute settings , like "swipe left = set AF mode to face detect" or "swipe right = turn mirror lock on".

One other thought that came to mind: if Canon really really wants to make scroll work on the touch bar, maybe offer an option to require a "commit" instead of the delay lock. So accidentally swiping would look like you're scrolling through, say, the ISO values, but unless you then commit by tapping the touch bar within a few milliseconds, it just springs back to the current ISO. So switching the ISO would be something like swipe-swipe-swipe-tap. Notice that this also has to allow for multiple swipes to keep swiping. And to mitigate the imprecision factor, slow down the scroll and maybe even offer an audible click option so people can "count the clicks" to get to the setting they want.
 
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This is literally the best thing I’ve read all week. Fantastic idea! And yes, I use the same two focus modes.
 
Let me add that for playback, I use the the Touch Bar to drag between images. Its faster than the touchscreen, go figure... We need a Digic 9Xii chip or dual Digit 8's one for all mirrorless overhead, i.e. EVF, touchscreen, electronic level, histogram, etc.. and the 2nd digic processor just to push data thru! The fuji X-T3 has three cores and its very fast, sloppy but fast! What do I know, I'm just armchair programming here!

For tap, during playback I have left tap is rating, rt tap is protect. WAY faster than mushing an actual button!

During shooting I have it signed to left touch and hold to activate, then swipe left or rt and it does AF modes.

Took a little while to get used to. I found that if I let the ball of my thumb sit on the left most touch part, that helps when wanting to activate it. Like many it felt like an eternity as I tried to activate it. You just have to practice.

Don't give up. A lot of us are seasoned photographers that got used to our dials and buttons, learning something new brings the words "It Sucks" to our lips! :-) It is new, and supposedly it takes doing soothing 40 times (the right way) to get the muss-cal (as popeye would say) memory. By my third shoot I was swapping AF modes like a reflex... "Like a Dock-tah"

I hope canon doesn't drop this feature because of the small vocal youtube crybabies chasing clicks with their inflammatory titles. Listen to your seasoned pros Canon!

I will say that for the pro model they should bring back the joystick as there is room and also the rotoray dial that the Dead used to have ( All of the M series has it...)

I appreciated the MODE dial and want that,,, but my thumb is an overachiever and that dial can be ISO, exposure comp, magnification, etc..

thanks for reading,,,
 
Let me add that for playback, I use the the Touch Bar to drag between images. Its faster than the touchscreen, go figure... We need a Digic 9Xii chip or dual Digit 8's one for all mirrorless overhead, i.e. EVF, touchscreen, electronic level, histogram, etc.. and the 2nd digic processor just to push data thru! The fuji X-T3 has three cores and its very fast, sloppy but fast! What do I know, I'm just armchair programming here!

For tap, during playback I have left tap is rating, rt tap is protect. WAY faster than mushing an actual button!

During shooting I have it signed to left touch and hold to activate, then swipe left or rt and it does AF modes.

Took a little while to get used to. I found that if I let the ball of my thumb sit on the left most touch part, that helps when wanting to activate it. Like many it felt like an eternity as I tried to activate it. You just have to practice.

Don't give up. A lot of us are seasoned photographers that got used to our dials and buttons, learning something new brings the words "It Sucks" to our lips! :-) It is new, and supposedly it takes doing soothing 40 times (the right way) to get the muss-cal (as popeye would say) memory. By my third shoot I was swapping AF modes like a reflex... "Like a Dock-tah"

I hope canon doesn't drop this feature because of the small vocal youtube crybabies chasing clicks with their inflammatory titles. Listen to your seasoned pros Canon!

I will say that for the pro model they should bring back the joystick as there is room and also the rotoray dial that the Dead used to have ( All of the M series has it...)

I appreciated the MODE dial and want that,,, but my thumb is an overachiever and that dial can be ISO, exposure comp, magnification, etc..

thanks for reading,,,
I think you are Right.... i like it too
 

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