Is the Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-HX60 still worth it?

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I'm planing on buying a new camera. Nothing fancy, nothing profesional. Budget around 200€ (i have seen the DSC-HX60 for 237€ in amazon). I don't want it for nothing special. General photos. Nature, sometimes sport videos (not FPV), sometimes macro, portraits, etc... The x30 optical zoom is a nice touch. The multiuse foot for the external flash too. I read it have a good estabilization system. But it get me a little back that is 3 years old already since Sony launched it. Is there a camera within the same budget, that you would recomend? Multipropuse camera. Thank you very much!
 
The HX60 belongs to a 'family' of nice compact Sony cameras with powerful zoom capability. It's mostly optimized for outdoor use, so good indoor shots will usually require flash. If the price is right, and if you don't mind working with only the rear screen (there's no eye-level viewfinder) I think you'll be pleased with it.
 
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Sony's HX series cameras use the ubiquitous 1/2.3" sensor, which is indiscernible in image quality from a current cell phone camera; you would only buy such a camera if you need the zoom and/or the flash.

If you want something compact that's a step up from your phone, look to Sony's RX100 models, original/Mark I versions can be found used for ~$400.

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I am replying 4 years later and that may be some kind of record. One has to be so careful with camera review sites like this that attract experts and enthusiasts who are in turn attracted to cameras with higher specs on paper and more expensive cameras. Me too.

By way of context I own a Nikon D5500 with a wide variety of lenses, I had a Sigma DP Quattro and explored that world for a while, I have a Sony RX100 and other cheaper camera models and a Sony HX60, that my wife tends to use. When we go somewhere interesting, we both take our cameras, the Nikon D5500 and the Sony HX60. Then when we get home we download and compare results on a large 4k monitor, actually a pair of 4k monitors, an IPS and a TN, side by side.

On paper the Nikon is in a different league to the RX60. (I do recognise that there are better DSLR and mirrorless cameras available than the Nikon D5500, however the Nikon is a decent mid range DSLR)

Ignoring the photo composition, which my wife sometimes gets better than I do, it is not possible to tell the images from these cameras apart. Sure I have a wide angle lens for the Nikon that obviously gives me an edge in some situations, however that is just a hardware edge and an advantage of an interchangeable lens camera. However the Sony HX60 has a 30x optical zoom, the equivalent of 720mm and it uses this almost without distortion retaining epic image quality. I have a 300mm lens for the Nikon D5500 that simply cannot compete in clarity or zoom. Actually I have two 300mm Nikon Nikkor lenses and neither can compete with the Sony at 300mm despite each costing a fair bit more that the whole Sony camera. And of course without remortgaging my house I cannot afford a decent 700mm DSLR lens.

Some people may think I am doing something wrong, however all I can say is that I have studied the images and sometimes the same images from both cameras along side each other, with my wife too, and they are indistinguishable. I am talking 10,000 images. Literally we cannot tell which image is which until we check the image info. We pick the best image and then are amused when we discover who took it.

So, all I can conclude is that the Sony HX 60 is a very compact, extremely versatile, very affordable camera, that takes excellent images. The main downsides are low light performance, lack of view finder and obviously 24mm is the max wide angle performance. Considering the cost and hassle of transporting a DSLR I often consider that I would be better with the Sony HX 60 and I could have bought about 7 of those for the cost of my Nikon kit.

In terms of phones, I have a Samsung S21 Ultra and my wife has a Apple iphone 12. These cameras are superior in low light conditions compared to either Nikon or the Sony cameras. With portrait photography the phones also do well in terms of general image impression. However the phones are still a long way shy of the cameras in terms of general photography and image quality. The S21 ultra has the best zoom functionality at 10x optical however neither phone can compete with the image quality of the Nikon or the Sony cameras and they cannot get anywhere near the 30 x optical zoom quality of the Sony HX60. I read one reviewer that said the HX60 gives a similar outcome to a modern mobile phone and this is completely incorrect in my experience. The Sony HX60 or Nikon D5500 is way better than a mobile phone in almost all regards except low light. Interesting that 2014 release camera can still beat a 2021 release phone.

Mind you the best images I have ever taken are on the Sigma DP Quattro. I sold that because out of 2,000 images taken, about 3 were completely brilliant, and the rest were pretty poor. I could not figure out where I was going wrong with the 1,997 poor images so gave up as the pain to brilliance ratio was too much, and we find the Nikon and Sony tend to produce a consistently good image.

I probably need to switch to mirrorless at some point and I would be interested to hear some real experiences of how mirrorless compares to DSLR (or compact zoom!). I would like real reviews where people do not claim some camera is in a different league when in practice they are simply not. Maybe someone who has taken 1,000s of images on a DSLR and a mirrorless and can truly describe the differences in objective and measured terms.

By way of completeness I remain of the view that the camera is only a part of the photographer experience and truly great images are often not those that you expect containing some random magic ingredient that is undefinable until you see it.
 
I am replying 4 years later and that may be some kind of record. One has to be so careful with camera review sites like this that attract experts and enthusiasts who are in turn attracted to cameras with higher specs on paper and more expensive cameras. Me too.

By way of context I own a Nikon D5500 with a wide variety of lenses, I had a Sigma DP Quattro and explored that world for a while, I have a Sony RX100 and other cheaper camera models and a Sony HX60, that my wife tends to use. When we go somewhere interesting, we both take our cameras, the Nikon D5500 and the Sony HX60. Then when we get home we download and compare results on a large 4k monitor, actually a pair of 4k monitors, an IPS and a TN, side by side.

On paper the Nikon is in a different league to the RX60. (I do recognise that there are better DSLR and mirrorless cameras available than the Nikon D5500, however the Nikon is a decent mid range DSLR)

Ignoring the photo composition, which my wife sometimes gets better than I do, it is not possible to tell the images from these cameras apart. Sure I have a wide angle lens for the Nikon that obviously gives me an edge in some situations, however that is just a hardware edge and an advantage of an interchangeable lens camera. However the Sony HX60 has a 30x optical zoom, the equivalent of 720mm and it uses this almost without distortion retaining epic image quality. I have a 300mm lens for the Nikon D5500 that simply cannot compete in clarity or zoom. Actually I have two 300mm Nikon Nikkor lenses and neither can compete with the Sony at 300mm despite each costing a fair bit more that the whole Sony camera. And of course without remortgaging my house I cannot afford a decent 700mm DSLR lens.

Some people may think I am doing something wrong, however all I can say is that I have studied the images and sometimes the same images from both cameras along side each other, with my wife too, and they are indistinguishable. I am talking 10,000 images. Literally we cannot tell which image is which until we check the image info. We pick the best image and then are amused when we discover who took it.

So, all I can conclude is that the Sony HX 60 is a very compact, extremely versatile, very affordable camera, that takes excellent images. The main downsides are low light performance, lack of view finder and obviously 24mm is the max wide angle performance. Considering the cost and hassle of transporting a DSLR I often consider that I would be better with the Sony HX 60 and I could have bought about 7 of those for the cost of my Nikon kit.

In terms of phones, I have a Samsung S21 Ultra and my wife has a Apple iphone 12. These cameras are superior in low light conditions compared to either Nikon or the Sony cameras. With portrait photography the phones also do well in terms of general image impression. However the phones are still a long way shy of the cameras in terms of general photography and image quality. The S21 ultra has the best zoom functionality at 10x optical however neither phone can compete with the image quality of the Nikon or the Sony cameras and they cannot get anywhere near the 30 x optical zoom quality of the Sony HX60. I read one reviewer that said the HX60 gives a similar outcome to a modern mobile phone and this is completely incorrect in my experience. The Sony HX60 or Nikon D5500 is way better than a mobile phone in almost all regards except low light. Interesting that 2014 release camera can still beat a 2021 release phone.

Mind you the best images I have ever taken are on the Sigma DP Quattro. I sold that because out of 2,000 images taken, about 3 were completely brilliant, and the rest were pretty poor. I could not figure out where I was going wrong with the 1,997 poor images so gave up as the pain to brilliance ratio was too much, and we find the Nikon and Sony tend to produce a consistently good image.

I probably need to switch to mirrorless at some point and I would be interested to hear some real experiences of how mirrorless compares to DSLR (or compact zoom!). I would like real reviews where people do not claim some camera is in a different league when in practice they are simply not. Maybe someone who has taken 1,000s of images on a DSLR and a mirrorless and can truly describe the differences in objective and measured terms.

By way of completeness I remain of the view that the camera is only a part of the photographer experience and truly great images are often not those that you expect containing some random magic ingredient that is undefinable until you see it.
I also got one HX60 recently. Its versatility and portability leave me more positive energy to create beautiful photos :)
 
I am replying 4 years later and that may be some kind of record. One has to be so careful with camera review sites like this that attract experts and enthusiasts who are in turn attracted to cameras with higher specs on paper and more expensive cameras. Me too.
4 years is far from a record and is one of the more recent ones!! :-) A couple of years ago I found the first post ever on DPR from 1999 and replied to it just so no one could ever beat me for the oldest revived thread. ;-) :-) :-P

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In that case I stand corrected and bow to the master of slow response to reviews.

Our HX60 is getting old and we are looking for something new that is ideally 10 times as good for less money......this prompted me to review our 8 years of real life experience with the HX60. Very noticeable how little if anything has changed in the Sony compact superzoom line up in 8 years. All the model numbers have changed, yes, although the HX60 may still be available. The newer models have the same spec camera set up as the HX60 though but just seem to combine that with a touch screen (that will only lead to photos of my feet and other random occurrences) and an articulated screen, which I have on another camera and never use, and a view finder, which admittedly could be useful on a sunny day. We were previous Canon fans and adored the G9 before it broke but then my wife became addicted to 30x zoom but have loved the HX60. It appears Sony expect us to pay twice as much for an HX99 with new features we are not interested in and no doubt the same actual photo performance.
 
I have a Sony RX100 and other cheaper camera models and a Sony HX60, that my wife tends to use. When we go somewhere interesting, we both take our cameras, the Nikon D5500 and the Sony HX60. Then when we get home we download and compare results on a large 4k monitor, actually a pair of 4k monitors, an IPS and a TN, side by side.

... it is not possible to tell the images from these cameras apart.
It might not be possible to tell any of those apart viewed at small image sizes. We have an RX100M3, an HX90, and a Sony A77 (APS-C), and their results are often indistinguishable at small viewing sizes. But when examined closely, the differences are apparent.
Actually I have two 300mm Nikon Nikkor lenses and neither can compete with the Sony at 300mm despite each costing a fair bit more that the whole Sony camera.
Which lenses are they?

BTW, 300mm on the D5500 is 450mm equivalent, so if you're going to compare you should also use 450mm equivalent on the HX60.
In terms of phones, I have a Samsung S21 Ultra and my wife has a Apple iphone 12. These cameras are superior in low light conditions compared to either Nikon or the Sony cameras. With portrait photography the phones also do well in terms of general image impression. However the phones are still a long way shy of the cameras in terms of general photography and image quality.
If you don't see a difference between results from the HX60 and D5500, I'm assuming you don't see a difference in the phone results either when all are viewed at the same small size (unless you're talking about digital zoom results, which are of course inferior).
The S21 ultra has the best zoom functionality at 10x optical however neither phone can compete with the image quality of the Nikon or the Sony cameras and they cannot get anywhere near the 30 x optical zoom quality of the Sony HX60.
Yes, the real strength of cameras like the HX60 and HX90 is the long end of the zoom. Large sensor compact cameras like the RX100 series don't compete as well in that particular arena.
I probably need to switch to mirrorless at some point and I would be interested to hear some real experiences of how mirrorless compares to DSLR (or compact zoom!).
Mirrorless technology doesn't make a difference in pure image quality. The key factors for that are sensor generation, sensor size, pixel count, and the lenses.
 
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THIS 29 JULY 2022 I SAY: YESSSSSSSSS !!!!

I did my best pictures with the Sony HX60v...

I had the Sony HX99 and the pictures was so ugly that I got rid of it !!!!

I have Sony HX90v and it's good, but HX60v was better.

I had 2 Sony HX50v and both brokes: buttons of settings was going crazy, maybe I got a bad batch ? (still HX60v was doing better pictures !)
 
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I had the Sony HX99 and the pictures was so ugly that I got rid of it !!!!

I have Sony HX90v and it's good
The HX90V and the HX99 have the same exact Zeiss lens. The only major differences with the HX99 are the Touch Focus, 4K Video & RAW capture over the older HX90V model. The HX99 also seems to focus a little quicker. I upgraded to the HX99 from the HX90V and I don't regret it at all. The image quality is noticeably better with the RAW + Extra Fine Jpeg setting.
 
THIS 29 JULY 2022 I SAY: YESSSSSSSSS !!!!

I did my best pictures with the Sony HX60v...

I had the Sony HX99 and the pictures was so ugly that I got rid of it !!!!

I have Sony HX90v and it's good, but HX60v was better.

I had 2 Sony HX50v and both brokes: buttons of settings was going crazy, maybe I got a bad batch ? (still HX60v was doing better pictures !)
How did the camera you used cause you to take ugly photos?
 
I had the Sony HX99 and the pictures was so ugly that I got rid of it !!!!

I have Sony HX90v and it's good
The HX90V and the HX99 have the same exact Zeiss lens. The only major differences with the HX99 are the Touch Focus, 4K Video & RAW capture over the older HX90V model. The HX99 also seems to focus a little quicker. I upgraded to the HX99 from the HX90V and I don't regret it at all. The image quality is noticeably better with the RAW + Extra Fine Jpeg setting.
Maybe I require too much about pictures, but with the hx99 the pictures was looking more flat for indoor without flash, I tried different setting and I could not get as nice as hx90, and I did not want to use raw because I have not much time to edit... The hx99 for outdoor was good :)
 
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THIS 29 JULY 2022 I SAY: YESSSSSSSSS !!!!

I did my best pictures with the Sony HX60v...

I had the Sony HX99 and the pictures was so ugly that I got rid of it !!!!

I have Sony HX90v and it's good, but HX60v was better.

I had 2 Sony HX50v and both brokes: buttons of settings was going crazy, maybe I got a bad batch ? (still HX60v was doing better pictures !)
How did the camera you used cause you to take ugly photos?
As I said in my previous message:

"Maybe I require too much about pictures, but with the hx99 the pictures was looking more flat for indoor without flash, I tried different setting and I could not get as nice as hx90, and I did not want to use raw because I have not much time to edit... The hx99 for outdoor was good".
 

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