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Yes, this will be another review by me. This time, I am reviewing my GX8 from my perspective and hopefully this review can provide some information that aren't covered previously.

I bought the GX8 just when it becomes available here, around the end of September. I used a GX7 before that(I'm still using the GX7 right now as a secondary camera) and I was very happy with how the GX7 performs, and I always wanted a camera with the form factor of a GX7, but with a much snappier performance as well as a better grip. When the GX8 came out, I am totally stoked because much of my wishes are implemented in the GX8 and I bought it instantly.

The GX8 now acts as my main camera. Not as my everyday carry camera, not as my supplemental camera, but as my main camera, my top of the line camera. For the past 10 months, the GX8 has been to so many countries, shoot so many pictures and videos, and produced some of my best photographs.

I shoot anything, mostly travel photography, event documentary, product photography, portrait, and off-camera-flash thingy. The GX8 works well on all of those conditions.

Here are some of my findings after 10 months:

What I like

The camera is very sturdy and handles very well. It is large, but I don't need it to be small anyway. This is a camera that is intended to be a main camera, not to be a camera to complement another camera. So the fact that it's big, hefty, and sturdy, really supports that statement. They call it a "rangefinder", which sounds cool to my ears! But I prefer to call it a GH4 with no middle EVF hump.

The controls are perfect in my opinion. The buttons are all on the right place in my opinion. Only the exposure compensation dial needs a bit of a thumb reach to rotate with my right hand, but other than that, everything is just right where they should be.

The buttons layout are similar like the GX7's button layout. I am using the GX7 as well, so going back and forth between the GX8 and 7 feels effortless because the back buttons are all on the same places. The thumb will naturally reach to the same buttons for changing ISO, WB, drive, gallery, etc. The same can't be said on my LX100, which has a slightly different button layout, more similar to the GX85 I must say than the GX7 or GX8.

The front positioned shutter makes all the difference in terms of handling. It enables me to wield large lenses like the 14-140, 12-35, or 100-300 very comfortably. The GX7 has a shutter button that is placed on the side of the camera, not in the front like the GX8, therefore it's not as comfortable to use with large lenses because there isn't so much grip to hold on to.

EVF is top notch, I think this is one of the best EVF in its time. Much better than GX7's I must say.

AF is as fast as it can be. I mostly shoot single AF with small AF box in the middle, and I focus-recompose most of the time. Using the single AF, the GX8 focuses in the speed of light I must say, very fast and just so quick! On the other hand, I tried the continuous AF a little bit, it's okay, better than the GX7, but not really giving me the "wow". It's passable for sport or action at the very least, though maybe there are many better options for such photography genre. But it's more than enough for shooting moving kids and pets.

I got a chance to accidentally "test" the weather sealing of this camera many months ago. I was shooting some landscape picture and all of a sudden a thunderstorm came out of nowhere and it started raining for 15 minutes or so. I got no place to hide, and I didn't carry a camera bag. So the GX8 got poured for at least a good 15 minutes or so with the 12-35 2.8(also weather sealed). Luckily, both the camera and the lens suffer no problem until today. Granted, the rain wasn't so bad, but still rain is rain. I was very lucky, please don't try this! I definitely don't want to be in that situation again.

Another thing that I love, is the RAW to JPEG in camera. It works fantastically well. I can now just shoot all RAW, and choose the ones that I want to keep in the camera. Apply some color profile, add some iDynamic, iResolution, shadow, highlight, contrast, reduce noise, add 1/3 stop more brightness, yada yada, and wi-fi to my phone. The app on my Android is fast and glitch free, unlike Canon's app, which I happened to try recently with a borrowed G9X.

Electronic shutter has been improved from the GX7. Now with the GX8, the image doesn't show weird banding under some lighting conditions anymore. This is a huge important upgrade for me, since I want to eliminate shutter shock by switching to electronic shutter most of the time. Now I only shoot with electronic shutter, unless I want to use my flash.

What I don't like

2.5mm mic jack, no headhphone jack, shutter shock with 14-140, the expensive launch price, the big bulky form factor, yada yada yada...all the usual suspects basically. But those don't bother me that much to be honest. I can live with all those shortcomings, those are not as bad as what people previously said. :-)

The biggest problem for me is there is no exact exposure preview in non manual modes. So I shoot a lot using aperture priority, and I want the preview on the LCD and the viewfinder to "lock" when I half press my shutter. There are many instances where I half press the shutter and recompose. The preview before I took the shot looks overly underexposed, while the captured image after I press the shutter looks almost okay. This is annoying! :-x I want the half-shutter-press to lock both the actual exposure and the preview exposure! This should have been able to be fixed on the firmware. My LX100 can do this, my already-sold E-PL6 can do this, why my GX7 and GX8 can't do this?? Right now my work around for such problem is to use the AE button before I even half press the shutter, so that I can lock both the actual exposure and the preview exposure. It's an unnecessary extra step that is required to work-around this preview exposure problem.

What I think are "meh"

IQ isn't hugely improved. The images are sharper, definitely. The 20MP actually makes noticeable detail improvement. But low light capabilities, dynamic range, and overall color are almost the same like the GX7.

Dual IS works well on stills with Dual IS compatible lenses. But it doesn't work in video unfortunately. The e-stabilizer on 1080p works okay, but it does have some tendencies to tilt and lean very slowly to the left or right sometimes when I record 1080p footages. It's a bit annoying, but with the stability that I gain from it, I can forgive that shortcoming.

Swivel screen is both a blessing and a curse. A blessing when I shoot general stuffs, both for stills and video, because I can get high and low angle shots easily, both portrait and landscape orientation. A curse when I shoot street photography, because with the screen swiveled out, people can easily see that I am doing something with the camera and I become less stealthty.

Conclusion

With all those shortcomings, I still love the GX8. Combined with the GX7, both formed a strong combination that are able to deliver anything that I require for both stills and videos. A solid 5 star, despite of some shortcomings, due to the much improved shooting experience of the GX8 compared to the older GX7.

Here are some sample images. If you want to see more images from my GX8, check out my instagram @bejophotography.

Hope this review helps :-) !!

Concert photography
Concert photography



Flower with off camera flash
Flower with off camera flash



Moon photography
Moon photography



Landscape Photography
Landscape Photography



Cityscape Photography
Cityscape Photography



Candid Street Photography
Candid Street Photography



Off Camera Flash Product Photography
Off Camera Flash Product Photography



More Street Photography
More Street Photography



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Best wishes,
Gary
ig: bejophotography
blog: http://bejo-photography,blogspot.com and http://bejophotographyblog.blogspot.com
 
Off camera flash environmental portrait
Off camera flash environmental portrait



Kobe Tower
Kobe Tower



 Some zoo animal picture
Some zoo animal picture



Some beach and cityscape picture
Some beach and cityscape picture



More street photography
More street photography



More abstract street photo
More abstract street photo



More candid portrait
More candid portrait



 Bellagio cityscape
Bellagio cityscape

Just a few pictures to show some example of what the GX8 can do. Hopefully this review thread will help to make your decision to buy/not buy the GX8! :-)

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Best wishes,
Gary
ig: bejophotography
blog: http://bejo-photography,blogspot.com and http://bejophotographyblog.blogspot.com
 
Thanks for posting, and nice shots, too. I appreciate hearing what people have to say after they've gotten past the initial euphoria and really take a camera through it's paces. I mostly shoot with the GX-7 still. The price tag is still too high for me to upgrade, esp. since I have some nice lenses still for my Sony A-mount and could buy the A77-II for the same price. But I will probably buy neither and just wait to it's cheaper to upgrade.
 
Beautiful review. Well written. I agree with nearly all you wrote.
 
Good review!

I was a bit confused about the Jpg + RAW section of the review.

Can you do some light editing within the camera? If so, how?
 
thank you, excellent review. It is so much better getting a review from someone who has used the camera rather than the clowns/so called professionals who do the instant reviews
 
Lovely diverse set of images Gary, I am delighted with the GX8 since getting it my GH4 has been largely confined to video duties { which it does rather well }. I particularly enjoy using it with the 20mm a great set up and by far my most used camera/lens combo. I am amused by the “it’s too big “posts that pop up. For me it has very good ergonomics and it is a decent fit for my admittedly ham sized hands. For the leaner m43 bodies I would be forced down the battery grip option as I find many of them unpleasant to hold as I have to use a pinch rather than a proper grip .The GX8 just about makes it ,though for me I would prefer a deeper grip . Bizarrely I find my D810 to be far more comfortable to hold for protracted periods as I can get a better grip despite the obvious weight disadvantage
 
The GX8 just about makes it ,though for me I would prefer a deeper grip . Bizarrely I find my D810 to be far more comfortable to hold for protracted periods as I can get a better grip despite the obvious weight disadvantage
Precisely why I stay with the G7. The GX8 is a great camera, but the G7 ergonomics...grip, weight, buttons, dials...are even better (at least for me) and what keep me attached to it. A G8 with all the latest Panasonic upgrades would be my ideal camera.

Panasonic deserves solid respect for their steady progress in camera and lens design. I'm anxiously waiting to see what their new flagship GH5 will offer.

Regards.....Warren
 
The GX8 just about makes it ,though for me I would prefer a deeper grip . Bizarrely I find my D810 to be far more comfortable to hold for protracted periods as I can get a better grip despite the obvious weight disadvantage
Precisely why I stay with the G7. The GX8 is a great camera, but the G7 ergonomics...grip, weight, buttons, dials...are even better (at least for me) and what keep me attached to it. A G8 with all the latest Panasonic upgrades would be my ideal camera.
The new IS in the GX80 would be a bonus for shooting video. I have never touched a G7 but a lot of posters in teh forum seem very happy with its handling

Panasonic deserves solid respect for their steady progress in camera and lens design. I'm anxiously waiting to see what their new flagship GH5 will offer.

Regards.....Warren
The GH4 is my video machine , it will be interesting to see what they come up with the feature set in m43 is pretty amazing. Though for me personally a much better sensor would be my wish . Unfortunately I think current sensor tech is reaching its limit in all formats.
 
Great Pictures

I own a GX7 and also a GX8. I still use both off them. My every day camera is the GX7 with 20 mn. It is so compact... With my GX8 I use alternatively the Pl 25 and zooms 12/35 ans 35/100. I use it in all conditions. I love it. I know that it is a lux to use use two cameras but my préoccupation is to have fun with both off them.

What I like most with the GX8 is that you can crop 3/2 in Jpeg ans still use the 4/3 in raw.

Every day I discover new things from my GX8. It is a trial...

Enjoy

Rycrip
 
The GH4 is my video machine , it will be interesting to see what they come up with the feature set in m43 is pretty amazing. Though for me personally a much better sensor would be my wish . Unfortunately I think current sensor tech is reaching its limit in all formats.
 
The GX8 just about makes it ,though for me I would prefer a deeper grip . Bizarrely I find my D810 to be far more comfortable to hold for protracted periods as I can get a better grip despite the obvious weight disadvantage
Precisely why I stay with the G7. The GX8 is a great camera, but the G7 ergonomics...grip, weight, buttons, dials...are even better (at least for me) and what keep me attached to it. A G8 with all the latest Panasonic upgrades would be my ideal camera.

Panasonic deserves solid respect for their steady progress in camera and lens design. I'm anxiously waiting to see what their new flagship GH5 will offer.

Regards.....Warren
As much as I'd like to think the G8 or GH5 will be the camera everyone has been waiting for, I'll bet they will leave out one main feature so as to keep everyone waiting for the NEXT big thing.
 
The GH4 is my video machine , it will be interesting to see what they come up with the feature set in m43 is pretty amazing. Though for me personally a much better sensor would be my wish . Unfortunately I think current sensor tech is reaching its limit in all formats.

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The rose of all the world is not for me. I want for my part
Only the little white rose of Scotland
That smells sharp and sweet—and breaks the heart.
:Hugh MacDiarmid
I suspect the GH5 to take the best of GH5, GX8, and GX85 and roll it into an unreal imaging device.

As for limits of M43, sensor tech is always increasing, generally proportionally all the way down with each sized sensor making genuine gains along with others. Just as the Full-Frame sensors have been slowly improving since their inception, and APS-C since its intro, etc. Not to mention improved JPEG processing in camera...
I think certainly since the start of 2012 when the E-M5 and D800 hit the market that there have been insignificant advances . Some exchange a wee bit poorer DR for a wee bit better high ISO . Same story with FF the D800, D810 are not very far apart the A7rII has lower DR and higher ISO . As a low iso shooter this is not a good exchange :-) I have the GX8 and D810 and previously had the D800 and Sony A7RII { couldn't get comfortable with its ergonomics/handling}.

Certainly from a features perspective m43 ticks a lot of boxes . I love 4k video and the 4k photo modes can do some smart tricks

m43



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FF



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I do believe we have a M43 sensor in the future with back lighting and improved lowlight imaging, but I honestly don't know how more camera I need than what is currently out there...yet I still have this G.A.S.

-Marty
Marty, GAS goes hand in hand with photography :-) so much gear so little cash :-) . My main gripes with m43 are the low ISO noise in shadows/skies and particularly the much less RAW flexibility than the best alternatives from other formats. Though if the high res mode can be speeded up significantly that would do the trick for me, as it gives great res, and colour

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The rose of all the world is not for me. I want for my part
Only the little white rose of Scotland
That smells sharp and sweet—and breaks the heart.
:Hugh MacDiarmid
 
The GX8 just about makes it ,though for me I would prefer a deeper grip . Bizarrely I find my D810 to be far more comfortable to hold for protracted periods as I can get a better grip despite the obvious weight disadvantage
Precisely why I stay with the G7. The GX8 is a great camera, but the G7 ergonomics...grip, weight, buttons, dials...are even better (at least for me) and what keep me attached to it. A G8 with all the latest Panasonic upgrades would be my ideal camera.

Panasonic deserves solid respect for their steady progress in camera and lens design. I'm anxiously waiting to see what their new flagship GH5 will offer.

Regards.....Warren
As much as I'd like to think the G8 or GH5 will be the camera everyone has been waiting for, I'll bet they will leave out one main feature so as to keep everyone waiting for the NEXT big thing.
I blame that pesky capitalism :-)
 
Benwood, Robiro, Darnit, Trevor, Samtheman, Warren, Rycrip, Marty, thank you all for the comment on my review thread! :-) I appreciate all your thoughts and opinions on the GX8, that should add more information to this review thread :-)

Darnit, as for the RAW and JPEG thing, I was a bit not clear. I forgot to mention that before the GX8, I have to shoot RAW+JPEG, and then wifi the JPEG to my phone if I want to share my photo right away. While this is a fine way to share photos as quick as possible from the camera, shooting RAW+JPG in the GX7 makes it a bit less snappy than usual. On the GX8, there is a RAW processing menu in-camera, so now I don't need to shoot RAW+JPEG anymore. Therefore, with that RAW processing menu, I just go to the menu in GX8, choose the RAW that I want to share, apply some basic post processing, change some color profile, resize, and send to my phone via wifi. :-) Very convenient I must say!

Samtheman, regarding on bigger grip, I was initially not satisfied with the grip on the GX8. It somehow rubbed against my fingernails when I first used the GX8 for a few days. But then I think my hand sort of became accustomed to it, and now I find no problem with the grip anymore. But I agree, the grip on larger DSLRs are hard to beat! :-)

Marty, regarding the sensor, I think there are still rooms to be done on MFT sensor. I wish to see better performing DR and high ISO performance in this format. I don't really need high resolution sensor to be honest, 20MP is as large as I need(I'm not a pro) for printing advertising materials. Seeing what both 1 inch and the APS-C sensors can do these days puts high hopes on what MFT can do in the future! :-)
 
Howard,

Thank you for the kind comment on my review! :-)
 
Very comprehensive review. As a GX8 owner myself, I'm always interested in reading what others have to say about the GX8 after shooting with it for a while. Great photos. The flash was well done too. What flash are you using by the way? I'm probably going to be shopping for one soon.
 
Very comprehensive review. As a GX8 owner myself, I'm always interested in reading what others have to say about the GX8 after shooting with it for a while. Great photos. The flash was well done too. What flash are you using by the way? I'm probably going to be shopping for one soon.
Hi Pesca, thank you for the kind comment :-)

I am shooting off-camera-flash using a bunch of YongNuo speedlights right now, mainly YN560IV when I travel, since it has a built in RF603CII radio transceiver inside it, so that I only need to carry a single RF603CII that needs to be plugged into the hotshoe of the camera. Before that, I used the YN510EX and really like it so much, but I have to carry a pair of RF603CII.

I mainly just handheld the flash using my left hand as far as my left hand can reach to achieve a more "rembrandt"-ish light on my subjects. But whenever possible, I always ask a friend to hold it so the flash can be closer to the subject to conserve power and to make the light angle more accurate. I almost never use a modifier, but once in a while I want to soften the light and use a Rogue Flashbender Large, strapped into the flash.
 
Very comprehensive review. As a GX8 owner myself, I'm always interested in reading what others have to say about the GX8 after shooting with it for a while. Great photos. The flash was well done too. What flash are you using by the way? I'm probably going to be shopping for one soon.
Hi Pesca, thank you for the kind comment :-)

I am shooting off-camera-flash using a bunch of YongNuo speedlights right now, mainly YN560IV when I travel, since it has a built in RF603CII radio transceiver inside it, so that I only need to carry a single RF603CII that needs to be plugged into the hotshoe of the camera. Before that, I used the YN510EX and really like it so much, but I have to carry a pair of RF603CII.

I mainly just handheld the flash using my left hand as far as my left hand can reach to achieve a more "rembrandt"-ish light on my subjects. But whenever possible, I always ask a friend to hold it so the flash can be closer to the subject to conserve power and to make the light angle more accurate. I almost never use a modifier, but once in a while I want to soften the light and use a Rogue Flashbender Large, strapped into the flash.
 

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