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Any onne ever used Linux for their digital photography? Can you get photo editing software for linux?
 
Any onne ever used Linux for their digital photography? Can you get photo editing software for linux?
Sure, and some of the programs are pretty good. GIMP, RawTherapee, quite a few others. They're all free, try 'em out. I have.

However, I still prefer the Windows photo applications I have.
 
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Any onne ever used Linux for their digital photography? Can you get photo editing software for linux?
The problem with most, if not all editors for Linux is that they are not well color managed. Generally working spaces like ProPhotoRGB are not available for them; unless things have changed since I last looked at that option.

If you are really serious about editing, then a wide gamut working space and 16 bit processing is a must at times.

Brian A
 
Been using Darktable exclusively for the last six months, after switching from Lightroom/Windows. Quite good system, though I use Digikam for management. Very happy to be done with Windows.
 
Any onne ever used Linux for their digital photography? Can you get photo editing software for linux?
I do my photo editing on linux for approximately 10 years now.

Yes, of course there is photo editing software. Excellent software. Most is open source.

I could tell a lot more, but I'm not sure if it really makes sense. First of all your question is quite unspecific. You did not tell anything about your current workflow, the programs you used and you did not tell about your expectations.

And what concerns me a little bit is that you could have easily found (basic) answers to your questions with a little reading and searching in the web. You should be aware that open source is a slightly different ecosystem than commercial and proprietary software. It is an ecosystem, which not fits everybody. You need a certain amount of self-initiative. It is important to understand that the relation between users and developers is not like the relation between a customer and a company.
 
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Any onne ever used Linux for their digital photography? Can you get photo editing software for linux?
You will get responses from Linux users that there are some good photo editing software that runs on Linux machines and they are right.

However, if you have developed proficiency using Windows with programs like Photoshop, Lightroom, DXO Optics Pro, ON1 Photo, Capture One, Perfect Photo Suite, PortraitPro Studio, etc, etc, then you may find yourself hampered by the Linux program's capabilities and user interfaces. I have and use those programs regularly (each chosen for their capabilities for a given photo) and have developed reasonable proficiency with them. I have a computer running Linux and have tried Linux programs and feel I cannot achieve the same results I can with my Windows programs, but that is just me.

If however, free and not Windows is your objective then the Linux offerings will suffice for basic photo editing.
 
However, if you have developed proficiency using Windows with programs like Photoshop, Lightroom, DXO Optics Pro, ON1 Photo, Capture One, Perfect Photo Suite, PortraitPro Studio, etc, etc, then you may find yourself hampered by the Linux program's capabilities and user interfaces. I have and use those programs regularly (each chosen for their capabilities for a given photo) and have developed reasonable proficiency with them. I have a computer running Linux and have tried Linux programs and feel I cannot achieve the same results I can with my Windows programs, but that is just me.

If however, free and not Windows is your objective then the Linux offerings will suffice for basic photo editing.

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Yes, I think the key is familiarity for many of us when it comes to complex software. As a 3-4 year Lightroom user, I've been testing the open source program Darktable (for which there is a Linux version) off and on for awhile now, but fairly intensively for over a week now to get a reasonably good feel for it. It has a steep learning curve but I'm finding it a LOT more than sufficient. It has quite a bit more control than Lightroom and quite a few of the other paid programs as well. It's certainly not "basic". GIMP, which runs on multiple platforms has most of the functionality of Photoshop so I wouldn't call it basic either. Much of it is simply a matter of personal preferences.

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Off course. Try Google for keywords photo editing and Linux. I use for years photography editing and managing under Linux. I never did that with Windows.

Operating system: Ubuntu 14.04
Photo Managing: Shotwell
Raw Developement: Darktable (new 2.0 version)
Further Editing: Gimp 2.9 (actual non stable version with 16-bit support)

Just try it. Operating system and applications are free.
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Off course. Try Google for keywords photo editing and Linux. I use for years photography editing and managing under Linux. I never did that with Windows.

Operating system: Ubuntu 14.04
Photo Managing: Shotwell
Raw Developement: Darktable (new 2.0 version)
Further Editing: Gimp 2.9 (actual non stable version with 16-bit support)
The problem with the GIMP, is the working space, which defaults to sRGB, and its recommended working space is also sRGB, which is inadequate for many users. It used to also work with AdobeRGB, but had problems in the past with ProPhotoRGB.

Brian A
 
Many? I could also say many user don't need other than SRGB, as most monitors are SRGB only. If some professionial or high enthusiast need or just want to work with AdobeRGB, then yes, it can be problemtic. The real problem comes with CMYK for printer. Gimp does not support CMYK. There are some awkward solutions.

At least Darktable the Raw converter should support AdobeRGB, if I am not mistaken.
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Off course. Try Google for keywords photo editing and Linux. I use for years photography editing and managing under Linux. I never did that with Windows.

Operating system: Ubuntu 14.04
Photo Managing: Shotwell
Raw Developement: Darktable (new 2.0 version)
Further Editing: Gimp 2.9 (actual non stable version with 16-bit support)
The problem with the GIMP, is the working space, which defaults to sRGB, and its recommended working space is also sRGB, which is inadequate for many users. It used to also work with AdobeRGB, but had problems in the past with ProPhotoRGB.
If I'm not misinterpreting the settings dialog, the working space can be configured. For people that do not make use of color management sRGB is a reasonable default. i never heard about ProPhotoRGB issues. Anyway, there are massive changes in 2.9, also affecting the color management [1].

[1] http://www.gimp.org/news/2015/11/27/gimp-2-9-2-released/
 
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Many? I could also say many user don't need other than SRGB, as most monitors are SRGB only. If some professionial or high enthusiast need or just want to work with AdobeRGB, then yes, it can be problemtic. The real problem comes with CMYK for printer. Gimp does not support CMYK. There are some awkward solutions.

At least Darktable the Raw converter should support AdobeRGB, if I am not mistaken.
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It is a photography based forum, there will be lots of users here running monitors with a native gamut that covers most of AdobeRGB, and some areas out of AdobeRGB gamut. And the monitor gamut isn't the only thing that matters, avoiding clipping while editing is desirable. Once clipped, there is noway of getting a color back.

Brian A
 
If I'm not misinterpreting the settings dialog, the working space can be configured. For people that do not make use of color management sRGB is a reasonable default. i never heard about ProPhotoRGB issues. Anyway, there are massive changes in 2.9, also affecting the color management [1].

[1] http://www.gimp.org/news/2015/11/27/gimp-2-9-2-released/
I hoped to avoid this thread, but wanted to thank you for the news. I did not know about ProPhotoRGB support, evident in this 2.9 screenshot.

from gimp.org/news

from gimp.org/news

Late last year I downloaded GIMP 2.9 for experimentation, and it was a bit rough. GIMP 2.10 is supposed to be the one ready for production. Here is the current roadmap for future releases:

 
Many? I could also say many user don't need other than SRGB, as most monitors are SRGB only. If some professionial or high enthusiast need or just want to work with AdobeRGB, then yes, it can be problemtic. The real problem comes with CMYK for printer. Gimp does not support CMYK. There are some awkward solutions.

At least Darktable the Raw converter should support AdobeRGB, if I am not mistaken.
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· http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackhole_eater/
· (All photos are creative common licensed. Check them out.)
· English is not my native language.
It is a photography based forum, there will be lots of users here running monitors with a native gamut that covers most of AdobeRGB, and some areas out of AdobeRGB gamut. And the monitor gamut isn't the only thing that matters, avoiding clipping while editing is desirable. Once clipped, there is noway of getting a color back.

Brian A
So far, I have seen no evidence that gimp cannot manage larger color spaces.

@AlphaTikal: Yes, darktable definitely supports large color spaces.
 
If I'm not misinterpreting the settings dialog, the working space can be configured. For people that do not make use of color management sRGB is a reasonable default. i never heard about ProPhotoRGB issues. Anyway, there are massive changes in 2.9, also affecting the color management [1].

[1] http://www.gimp.org/news/2015/11/27/gimp-2-9-2-released/
I hoped to avoid this thread, but wanted to thank you for the news. I did not know about ProPhotoRGB support, evident in this 2.9 screenshot.
This is not new in 2.9. Gimp is color managed -- don't know exactly since when, but since 2.8 for sure. So there is basically no reason to assume that prophoto is not supported. BTW: This is a screenshot of a dialog for selecting icc files and not a list of supported color spaces ;)

from gimp.org/news

from gimp.org/news

Late last year I downloaded GIMP 2.9 for experimentation, and it was a bit rough. GIMP 2.10 is supposed to be the one ready for production. Here is the current roadmap for future releases:

http://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap#GIMP_2.10
 
This is not new in 2.9. Gimp is color managed -- don't know exactly since when, but since 2.8 for sure. So there is basically no reason to assume that prophoto is not supported.
Correct about color management. Often I edit DPreview posted photos in AdobeRGB color space, and GIMP offers to convert them for me.

Aside: it is fairly silly to post AdobeRGB here because only a few browsers display that colorspace correctly. As I recall, only Firefox and Safari, which are in the minority nowadays.

Anyway, using ProPhotoRGB is pointless without at least 16-bits per color channel. Some operations are 16-bit clean in GIMP 2.8, but not all.
 

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