Panasonic Lumix G7 full specs leaked

[Impulses]

I love the appearance of this new G7, but again (for me, that is), it's the same ole' 16 MP scenario. I hope it shines in some other way (perhaps a much better high ISO performance level), but other than refreshing the model number, is there anything else (other than the addition to 4K)?

 

[inlawbiker]

I would have definitely bought one instead of the EM1 and the GX7 and GM1. None of those did exactly what I wanted in terms of the triad of handling, EVF, and IQ (I prefer the Panasonic IQ to the Oly, but the Panasonic EVF in the GX7 was terrible; and the EM1 was just a little too clunky for me (plus I hate the Oly UI).

This is the first M43 that looks like a true successor in spirit and size to the GH2. Bravo Panasonic!

I hope they price it right and sell the heck out of it.

-J

Seems like they were waiting for 4k. Panasonic seems to be the only one prioritizing 4k video. This is a pretty smart move in my opinion, especially while the big 2 continue to completely ignore it.

I too handled a GX7 and I hated the EVF. I don't really like the one in my G5 either but other than that I simply love the camera.

 

[Impulses]

I would have definitely bought one instead of the EM1 and the GX7 and GM1. None of those did exactly what I wanted in terms of the triad of handling, EVF, and IQ (I prefer the Panasonic IQ to the Oly, but the Panasonic EVF in the GX7 was terrible; and the EM1 was just a little too clunky for me (plus I hate the Oly UI).

This is the first M43 that looks like a true successor in spirit and size to the GH2. Bravo Panasonic!

I hope they price it right and sell the heck out of it.

-J

Price is the big question isn't it, I feel like if it's $700-800 there's no way it won't be a hit... At the same time they could probably get away with selling it for a grand, but then it becomes a question of this vs that when compared to the E-M5 II, let alone the rest of the mirrorless field or even the eventual GX8.

I'd like to see Panasonic price it aggressively, not even because I'm all that interested (more keen on the GX8), but because at a slightly lower price point it stands a better chance of becoming the default recommendation out there and we all know Panasonic's street prices tend to sag quickly anyway...

 

[Big Ga]

looks like the toggle is gone.

All I can say is:

AAAARRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

And. Thank god I didn't sell my G6 bodies before now.

Mind you, if it has got front and rear wheels, any manufacturer with any sense would allow one of those wheels to be programmed as a substitute for the toggle.

But I'm still miffed. The G5/6 with the 14-42x is the best camera I've ever had for taking single hand reference shots of 'stuff' when you need your other hand to hold things open, still etc. I'll probably hang on to one G6 for no other reason than this!

 

[s_grins]

If I remember rightly 12 month or so ago, there were a lot of posts saying that the G6 had been a failure for Panasonic and this was definitely the end of the line for the Gs. I think people must post their prejudiced opinions as fact.

The G6 is a great camera as some of us know and it has clearly been successful enough for Panny to want to launch the next generation.

 

[pcb_dpr]

Most definitely personal preferences differ. Like Brent, I've always found the push-to-switch thumb dial very difficult to control. I constantly switch the function unintentionally. Not only that, I also find it takes far too many swipes of the dial to change the aperture from wide-open to closed-down. This has bothered me since the G1/GH1.

The new dials mimic Olympus' setup, which has no push-to-switch tomfoolery, and changes aperture (or shutter speed, or +/-) with far fewer swipes/turns of the dial.

I was not going to buy a G7 if the dial arrangement hadn't changed. Giving up hope, I bought an Olympus EM5II. Now I'm perplexed...

...I like the front dial and fn. button on the top. I don't love the position of the rear dial, and I mourn the apparent loss of its push-to-swap-mode feature.

...My G5's push-to-swap button swaps too easily when I try to turn it. Perhaps the G6 is better, but I like the two dials that I see in the G7 images (hard to say about the position of the rear dial without handling it)...

--
Brent

 

[Alan_W1]

Looks like some decent features/upgrades for some g6 users.

Can't wait to see the first pictures of this camera {especially of the rear}, and whether they have tweaked the display button positioning...and tweaked the rear wheel design {may only be an issue for me though}.

I will likely get one anyway though, as my g6 won't last forever.

Hopefully the general operation of the g7 functions, will remain similar to the g6....including having the same battery.

Pictures at http://digicame-info.com/2015/05/g7-2.html. (This was in the O/P too.)

The Display button seems to be in much the same place, but there is a thumb rest which may help you. The camera looks nice to me.

Yes, have just seen them,

I like the look of it very, VERY much, although from a handling point of view I share Jacques thoughts on this new body.

The repositioning of the rear wheel {and apparent lack of a "push" option} may be a disadvantage for my video/legacy lens needs, and the jury is out...regarding the display button position on the new g7.

The g7 would probably be my m43 body of choice for stills shooting {if I were to dump my dslr, which I won't be}, but for my video needs, I think I may be cornered into remaining with my g6.

Think I shall wait until it has been on the market for a while, and see what the early users thoughts are {after the usual honeymoon period...for more realistic thoughts/opinions etc}

 

[s_grins]

Most definitely personal preferences differ. Like Brent, I've always found the push-to-switch thumb dial very difficult to control. I constantly switch the function unintentionally. Not only that, I also find it takes far too many swipes of the dial to change the aperture from wide-open to closed-down. This has bothered me since the G1/GH1.

The new dials mimic Olympus' setup, which has no push-to-switch tomfoolery, and changes aperture (or shutter speed, or +/-) with far fewer swipes/turns of the dial.

I was not going to buy a G7 if the dial arrangement hadn't changed. Giving up hope, I bought an Olympus EM5II. Now I'm perplexed...

So, the only thing that makes the difference in your decision is this dial. I'm perplexed.

 

[Greenbeanz]

Where's the toggle thingy for X lenses?

Ron

 

[SidePod]

nt

 

[Jorginho]

Pretty obvious they would.

Great cam it seems, now everything hinges on the price. 700 dollar bod only or lower would be very good. I also wonder about the size of the body.

Looks a little bigger but looks can be deceiving, more angular designs tend to look bigger too. Someone could probably superimpose pictures already and match the mount to find out whether it's any bigger at all.

If they actually deliver all this at =<$750 I would think it'd be very successful, I'm still skeptical that they won't bump it to a grand given all the improvements tho... My counter prediction all along hinged on the G line sticking to it's traditional price point.

Seems 43rumors got it all pretty wrong tho, their initial rumors hinted at no DFD and a minor update centering around the sensor and 4K, not that I put much stock on their Panasonic rumors but still...

Like I said (not be arrogant or selfsatisfied btw!) on 43rumors when they anounced no DFD: "I believe when I see it". It would be completely and utterly senseless for them not to do so. I cannot say anything else than that. Just foolish, because G6 achillesheel was it already trailing behind similar priced cams in too many ways with no standout features to speak of.

 

[Old Listener]

My criteria are different from yours. No IBIS, who cares? For macro photos using a tripod, I don't want stabilization at all. I want the sensor attached solidly to the camera body. For wildlife photos, I have the camera on a tripod or a monopod with stabilization turned off. For daylight walking around shots, I usually turn off stabilization.

DPReview has endless discussions of cameras without context about how they are used. Emphatic statements about which camera is better (for everyone) and what features are essential (for everyone) without context are just forum BS.

 

[Jorginho]

I love the appearance of this new G7, but again (for me, that is), it's the same ole' 16 MP scenario. I hope it shines in some other way (perhaps a much better high ISO performance level), but other than refreshing the model number, is there anything else (other than the addition to 4K)?

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Ehh well: compared to what?

Now suppose the price of this one is inline with the G6. Than it will cost about 750 dollar when introduced with 14-42 kitlens.

Now, which mirrorless cam offers you:

- 4K video that is actually very usuable based on these specs
- Best EVF around (on par with the other top EVFs)
- DFD AF which does a fantastic job of focustracking (but how big the buffer, how high the fps?)
- Swivle screen to with this
- Manual controls
- IQ very close to APS-c performance.
- -4 eV autofocussing
- 360 degrees sweeping panorama (lets see how it works)
- 1/16000s shutterspeed (electronic? If so: 10 or 12 bit)?
- 4K photograb
- By the looks it seems a very nice cam to hold, ergonomics look great (remains to be seen of course).


Not one cam comes close to this featureset in my view a tthis price (when the price indeed will be similar to G6 when it was introduced).

Suppose they'll do the above well, with a 25 framebuffer in RAW, 8 fps DFD with C-AF. And: get us that GH3/GH4 battery that seems to last forever?

Yes: there are still some "ifs" but to my mind it does everything right. I have said on this forum more than once that the G7 should be a jack of all trades, master of none. The last G6 was not a jack of all trades, it did not AF well and its sensor was really subpar already. This G7.

Sensor is not the same old 16 MP sensor, it is the same new one that still performs close to APS-c sensors. If that would have been the latest Sony 20 MP 4/3 a 24 MP new Panny sensor that performs a sgood as the 20 MP Sony (based on the D7200 sensor where EM5 is based on NEX6, so a jump in performance is to be expected), we would have had a perfect Jack of all trades cam.

As you and I must base ourselves on specssheets, my take is that Panasonic G7 seems to be very close to the most allround cam out there at 750 dollars.

 

[Jorginho]

I would have definitely bought one instead of the EM1 and the GX7 and GM1. None of those did exactly what I wanted in terms of the triad of handling, EVF, and IQ (I prefer the Panasonic IQ to the Oly, but the Panasonic EVF in the GX7 was terrible; and the EM1 was just a little too clunky for me (plus I hate the Oly UI).

This is the first M43 that looks like a true successor in spirit and size to the GH2. Bravo Panasonic!

I hope they price it right and sell the heck out of it.

-J

Yes indeed this is a worthy successor in the same vain as GH2.As I ahve said before: I think the sensor, while solid, will hamper sales of those who are still or again transfixed on MPs. When we look at developments from Samsung NX1 and the new Canon FF, we see that the MP has started again. Canon clearly upped the MP count for marketing reasons mostly as the sensor is not better tehcwise as their tD MarkII with likely the same DR....

A m43 equivalent of the D7200 (which the Sony 20 MP 4/3 sensor is, it uses the exact same tech as D7200 sensor) would have made this cam a stellar allrounder. Now it is still very good!
Easily the best allround cam below 750 if buffersize and C-AF fps rates are done well...

 

[Jacques Cornell]

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/55764671

Yeah, I saw that thread and skipped it because the premise was all wrong from the start. If the GX7 renders a black point a little bit lighter than the G6, that doesn't mean it "can't render blacks well". It just means you process the RAW with slightly different settings. I'd be much more concerned if the black point was too low, as this would reduce shadow detail.

Hi Jacques

It 'twas me that started that thread.

It was provoked by a long session ploughing through many camera model groups on Flickr (I said I was a sad, obsessive type).

I noticed I liked the G6 examples more than the modern M43 sensor. So I checked it on the IM comparator and on the DPR comparison tool. Both showed deeper black at low ISO.

Remember I said I have not checked print, but do have a Windows calibrated DELL Ultrasharp IPS screen - 1920 by 1200 24".

I also concluded that I liked the Fuji Bayer sensor more than the X-Trans and that the latest X-Trans sensors were not as good compared to the older ones IMHO. That I liked the RX100 iii more than the LX100 (I have both). That I preferred the Coolpix A to the Ricoh GR and that I liked the latest Nikon images compared to both Sony and Canon equivalents. Despite being a long standing Pentax film camera fan, I am was not very impressed. I loved the Sony RX1 output.

All of this is obviously my preference. I include the other comparisons to see if others think I am an outlier in my opinion.

It was not a statement of fact, I merely asked the reason for this unreasonableness

I understand. Thanks for clarifying. I look at it this way: I'd rather have an initial rendering that's too flat than too contrasty. You can always add punch to a flat image, but you can't always recover highlights and shadows from an overly contrasty image.

Because of the variables introduced by in-camera JPEG settings and different RAW processing software's default settings and renderings, I wouldn't generalize about camera models based on comparison of random images found online. A sharp RAW file with good DR and low noise will let you get just about any look you want with the right software. If you know what you're doing.

 

[Jorginho]

I would have definitely bought one instead of the EM1 and the GX7 and GM1. None of those did exactly what I wanted in terms of the triad of handling, EVF, and IQ (I prefer the Panasonic IQ to the Oly, but the Panasonic EVF in the GX7 was terrible; and the EM1 was just a little too clunky for me (plus I hate the Oly UI).

This is the first M43 that looks like a true successor in spirit and size to the GH2. Bravo Panasonic!

I hope they price it right and sell the heck out of it.

-J

Seems like they were waiting for 4k. Panasonic seems to be the only one prioritizing 4k video. This is a pretty smart move in my opinion, especially while the big 2 continue to completely ignore it.

I too handled a GX7 and I hated the EVF. I don't really like the one in my G5 either but other than that I simply love the camera.

You will love the G7 EVF if it is the same as my GH4. Just great great great!

 

[Jacques Cornell]

Most definitely personal preferences differ. Like Brent, I've always found the push-to-switch thumb dial very difficult to control.

Yes, the one on the G6 is particularly bad in this regard. The GX7's is a bit better. The one on the GH3/4 is a dream by comparison - very nice, easy to spin without accidentally pressing.

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...I like the front dial and fn. button on the top. I don't love the position of the rear dial, and I mourn the apparent loss of its push-to-swap-mode feature.

...My G5's push-to-swap button swaps too easily when I try to turn it. Perhaps the G6 is better, but I like the two dials that I see in the G7 images (hard to say about the position of the rear dial without handling it)...

 

[Jacques Cornell]

Most definitely personal preferences differ. Like Brent, I've always found the push-to-switch thumb dial very difficult to control. I constantly switch the function unintentionally. Not only that, I also find it takes far too many swipes of the dial to change the aperture from wide-open to closed-down. This has bothered me since the G1/GH1.

The new dials mimic Olympus' setup, which has no push-to-switch tomfoolery, and changes aperture (or shutter speed, or +/-) with far fewer swipes/turns of the dial.

I was not going to buy a G7 if the dial arrangement hadn't changed. Giving up hope, I bought an Olympus EM5II. Now I'm perplexed...

So, the only thing that makes the difference in your decision is this dial. I'm perplexed.

To each his own. Sometimes ergonomics make all the difference. I won't give up TouchPad AF for anything.

 

[Øyvin Eikeland]

Yes! The G7 ticks all my boxes with one last caveat:

Will it or will it not exhibit shutter shock with my 14-140 mk2 lens? I see that the shutter speed has increased to 1/16000 so the shutter design has changed rather drastically from my G6.

But I will get it even if the SS is still there. So much improvement over the G6!

Øyvin

 

[jalywol]

Yes! The G7 ticks all my boxes with one last caveat:

Will it or will it not exhibit shutter shock with my 14-140 mk2 lens? I see that the shutter speed has increased to 1/16000 so the shutter design has changed rather drastically from my G6.

But I will get it even if the SS is still there. So much improvement over the G6!

Øyvin

I am wondering if they have a full electronic first curtain shutter in it now, since that technology came out in their cameras after both the GX7 and GH4. I hope so.

-J