Panasonic Lumix G7 full specs leaked

[clemcam]

You clearly believe the GX7 sensor to be superior to that in the G6. Is there anything you prefer in the G6 over the GX7? I assume there is or you wouldn't be interested in the G7.

 

[alcelc]

Could not be that due to the much greater DR the middle tones just collapsed, and therefore on some (most?) displays they cannot be rendered smoothly enough? And therefore I see faces rendered by these sensors are lack of smooth transitions?

No. Greater DR generally enables better rendering of skin tones. This is one of the advantages of medium format sensors for portrait & fashion work. Sounds like you're seeing bad exposure or bad processing.

 

[Jacques Cornell]

Could not be that due to the much greater DR the middle tones just collapsed, and therefore on some (most?) displays they cannot be rendered smoothly enough? And therefore I see faces rendered by these sensors are lack of smooth transitions?

No. Greater DR generally enables better rendering of skin tones. This is one of the advantages of medium format sensors for portrait & fashion work. Sounds like you're seeing bad exposure or bad processing.

 

[Treadurownpath]

The image of it has been leaked as well. I think it looks nice. A bit of GM series, a bit of Fuji, a bit of Olympus. Importantly it has a look of solidness and has lost the hump look of the G6 which I wasn't a fan of (preferred the G5. I think Panasonic may have a hit here if it all works out to be true. They have finally done the right thing and not crippled their mid positioned camera. I really wasn't expecting specs like a 2.36mil dot evf. Yeh, they will damage GH4 sales, but who cares, release an incredible GH5.

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[brentbrent]

Two steps forward, two steps back. Ugh. I like the front dial and fn. button on the top. I don't love the position of the rear dial, and I mourn the apparent loss of its push-to-swap-mode feature. I love that they've adopted the AF/AE lock & AF mode switch from the GX7. I dislike the move of bracket/timer settings from the rear button to the top-left dial, as this now makes it impractical to change them with camera to eye. And, most importantly...

THE @%%$^@ DISPLAY BUTTON IS STILL IN THE WORST POSSIBLE PLACE!!! They finally got it right on the GM5, then they @#$^ed it up again!

It looks to me like the thumb grip is higher than the G6's, with the move of the back dial, and there may be more space between the thumb and the display button. Hard to say. My G5's push-to-swap button swaps too easily when I try to turn it. Perhaps the G6 is better, but I like the two dials that I see in the G7 images (hard to say about the position of the rear dial without handling it). What is the button in the middle of the rear dial? I'm also OK with the bracket/timer dial on top. I'd probably set the F3 button to exposure mode, and the four-way buttons would be perfect IMO.

 

[Ben Herrmann]

I love the appearance of this new G7, but again (for me, that is), it's the same ole' 16 MP scenario. I hope it shines in some other way (perhaps a much better high ISO performance level), but other than refreshing the model number, is there anything else (other than the addition to 4K)?

 

[Jacques Cornell]

You clearly believe the GX7 sensor to be superior to that in the G6. Is there anything you prefer in the G6 over the GX7? I assume there is or you wouldn't be interested in the G7.

There are only two reasons I haven't replaced my G6 with another GX7: the tilt & swivel screen and the mic jack. In every other regard, I prefer the GX7. If they put a tilt & swivel screen on the GX8, it's bye-bye G6, as my anticipated need for video never materialized.

The G6 EVF appears larger, but I prefer the GX7's for its higher resolution and more accurate color (especially under artificial light - maybe that's a WB issue?).

 

[Greenbeanz]

Always fascinating how we are all affected differently by ergonomics. I have only ever had one major complaint about the G6 and that is the ease with which I operate buttons that I don't want to press. The one button that I have not had this problem with is the display button!

 

[Adrian Harris]

You clearly believe the GX7 sensor to be superior to that in the G6. Is there anything you prefer in the G6 over the GX7? I assume there is or you wouldn't be interested in the G7.

For me, to answer in simple terms - the G1-6 series is nicer in the hand. But I own the GX7 because it has in body stabilisation - which is a huge plus. I can now use any lens ... and will buy a GX8 immediately for this very feature, but if it's dropped - and if the G7 does not have in body stabilisation, I may consider moving brands.

 

[Loga]

Could not be that due to the much greater DR the middle tones just collapsed, and therefore on some (most?) displays they cannot be rendered smoothly enough? And therefore I see faces rendered by these sensors are lack of smooth transitions?

No. Greater DR generally enables better rendering of skin tones. This is one of the advantages of medium format sensors for portrait & fashion work. Sounds like you're seeing bad exposure or bad processing.

 

[Trevor Carpenter]

You clearly believe the GX7 sensor to be superior to that in the G6. Is there anything you prefer in the G6 over the GX7? I assume there is or you wouldn't be interested in the G7.

For me, to answer in simple terms - the G1-6 series is nicer in the hand. But I own the GX7 because it has in body stabilisation - which is a huge plus. I can now use any lens ... and will buy a GX8 immediately for this very feature, but if it's dropped - and if the G7 does not have in body stabilisation, I may consider moving brands.

 

[inlawbiker]

I love the appearance of this new G7, but again (for me, that is), it's the same ole' 16 MP scenario. I hope it shines in some other way (perhaps a much better high ISO performance level), but other than refreshing the model number, is there anything else (other than the addition to 4K)?

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Probably not, but on the other hand there isn't much to improve. It's easy to see why the 2-year cycle from the G6. It looks to me like a whole new design direction. It has two dials rather than the single fiddly pressable one. I'm eager to see what else they've done.

One thing I can say about Panasonic, they're not resting on their laurels. If the next generation sensor was ready it would be in the camera, so I guess it's just not ready. Maybe Sony has gotten wise and reserved it for their own cameras for some delay period.

Dang if Panasonic doesn't press all the right buttons for me, camera after camera they get it right. For me anyway, they're the only ones making a camera that's worth the retail asking price these days.

 

[Impulses]

If I remember rightly 12 month or so ago, there were a lot of posts saying that the G6 had been a failure for Panasonic and this was definitely the end of the line for the Gs. I think people must post their prejudiced opinions as fact.

The G6 is a great camera as some of us know and it has clearly been successful enough for Panny to want to launch the next generation.

 

[Impulses]

Pretty obvious they would.

Great cam it seems, now everything hinges on the price. 700 dollar bod only or lower would be very good. I also wonder about the size of the body.

Looks a little bigger but looks can be deceiving, more angular designs tend to look bigger too. Someone could probably superimpose pictures already and match the mount to find out whether it's any bigger at all.

If they actually deliver all this at =<$750 I would think it'd be very successful, I'm still skeptical that they won't bump it to a grand given all the improvements tho... My counter prediction all along hinged on the G line sticking to it's traditional price point.

Seems 43rumors got it all pretty wrong tho, their initial rumors hinted at no DFD and a minor update centering around the sensor and 4K, not that I put much stock on their Panasonic rumors but still...

 

[Impulses]

Always fascinating how we are all affected differently by ergonomics. I have only ever had one major complaint about the G6 and that is the ease with which I operate buttons that I don't want to press. The one button that I have not had this problem with is the display button!

 

[User9941273715]

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/55764671

Yeah, I saw that thread and skipped it because the premise was all wrong from the start. If the GX7 renders a black point a little bit lighter than the G6, that doesn't mean it "can't render blacks well". It just means you process the RAW with slightly different settings. I'd be much more concerned if the black point was too low, as this would reduce shadow detail.

Hi Jacques

It 'twas me that started that thread.

It was provoked by a long session ploughing through many camera model groups on Flickr (I said I was a sad, obsessive type).

I noticed I liked the G6 examples more than the modern M43 sensor. So I checked it on the IM comparator and on the DPR comparison tool. Both showed deeper black at low ISO.

Remember I said I have not checked print, but do have a Windows calibrated DELL Ultrasharp IPS screen - 1920 by 1200 24".

I also concluded that I liked the Fuji Bayer sensor more than the X-Trans and that the latest X-Trans sensors were not as good compared to the older ones IMHO. That I liked the RX100 iii more than the LX100 (I have both). That I preferred the Coolpix A to the Ricoh GR and that I liked the latest Nikon images compared to both Sony and Canon equivalents. Despite being a long standing Pentax film camera fan, I am was not very impressed. I loved the Sony RX1 output.

All of this is obviously my preference. I include the other comparisons to see if others think I am an outlier in my opinion.

It was not a statement of fact, I merely asked the reason for this unreasonableness

Jon

 

[Old Listener]

Looks like some decent features/upgrades for some g6 users.

Can't wait to see the first pictures of this camera {especially of the rear}, and whether they have tweaked the display button positioning...and tweaked the rear wheel design {may only be an issue for me though}.

I keep hitting the Display button on my G6 by accident, and it drives me absolutely nuts. I work fast with two cameras (events), so I'm constantly switching from one camera to the other. Half the time when I switch to the G6 and raise it to my eye, I have to stop and hit the Display button several times to get the setting back where I want it. Horrible. The G6 Display button is in exactly the wrong place. Also, the G6' buttons aren't raised, so it's very hard to find them by touch. The GX7 is a bit better in these regards, though there's still lots of room for improvement.

Panny really needs to get the Display and Playback buttons out of the way. They're the least used when shooting, so they should be at the bottom.

 

[grcolts]

The image of it has been leaked as well. I think it looks nice. A bit of GM series, a bit of Fuji, a bit of Olympus. Importantly it has a look of solidness and has lost the hump look of the G6 which I wasn't a fan of (preferred the G5. I think Panasonic may have a hit here if it all works out to be true. They have finally done the right thing and not crippled their mid positioned camera. I really wasn't expecting specs like a 2.36mil dot evf. Yeh, they will damage GH4 sales, but who cares, release an incredible GH5.

http://www.43rumors.com/

I don't believe it will hurt the sales of the GH4 at all as they are different cameras being marketed at different users. For one thing, the GH4 is weather resistant while the new G7 does not appear to be. Don't know for sure as all the specs have not been released but I doubt seriously if it would be. Certainly from what I have seen so far, the G7 should be one nice camera.

GR

 

[jalywol]

I would have definitely bought one instead of the EM1 and the GX7 and GM1. None of those did exactly what I wanted in terms of the triad of handling, EVF, and IQ (I prefer the Panasonic IQ to the Oly, but the Panasonic EVF in the GX7 was terrible; and the EM1 was just a little too clunky for me (plus I hate the Oly UI).

This is the first M43 that looks like a true successor in spirit and size to the GH2. Bravo Panasonic!

I hope they price it right and sell the heck out of it.

-J

 

[Impulses]

Where's the toggle thingy for X lenses?

Ron