Lightroom 6 w/ EOS M3

[verum lens]

Very pleased with the results I've been getting from Lightroom 6. Here's a couple photos straight from LR 6 with defaults (Lens Correction Profile turned on) and straight from DPP w/ defaults (50% DLO, default sharpness, noise reduction, Auto Lighting Optimizer Off since it pushes and pulls shadows and highlights automatically):


LR6


DPP


LR6


DPP


LR6




LR6


DPP

Of course this is with zero editing. With about 1 minute in LR6 with the new Graduated Filter masking brush, a touch of Contrast and Clarity, I can come up with:


LR6 with 60 seconds of editing

Suffice to say, I'll be using LR6 to edit my M3 photos going forward (just like I used LR5 to edit my EOS M photos).

 

[rrccad]

the one with the grass is much better with DPP - the rest not so much.

LR doesn't correct the blue fringing around tree branch detail, as the tree branches are tending to go blue/purple on LR versus DPP/DLO correction (one of the main reasons I do like DLO)

it also did a poorer job around the lit lamp correcting the blooming as DPP/DLO did a much better job of that.

 

[verum lens]

the one with the grass is much better with DPP - the rest not so much.

Those are all with zero edits. I would very rarely just import something and not touch it in LR. If I was editing it, I'd get something like this:




LR6 w/ edits

Of course you can make changes with DPP as well, but LR gives you a lot more control, and I would never give up local adjustments (even when I was using DPP, I'd export as a 16-bit TIFF to LR for touchups).

 

[UCSB]

I've been really happy with LR also. It is doing a great job.

 

[rrccad]

the one with the grass is much better with DPP - the rest not so much.

Those are all with zero edits. I would very rarely just import something and not touch it in LR. If I was editing it, I'd get something like this:


LR6 w/ edits

Of course you can make changes with DPP as well, but LR gives you a lot more control, and I would never give up local adjustments (even when I was using DPP, I'd export as a 16-bit TIFF to LR for touchups).

even with that .. DLO does a much better job at resolving micro contrast. it should, it reverses the AA filter.

 

[verum lens]

the one with the grass is much better with DPP - the rest not so much.

Those are all with zero edits. I would very rarely just import something and not touch it in LR. If I was editing it, I'd get something like this:


LR6 w/ edits

Of course you can make changes with DPP as well, but LR gives you a lot more control, and I would never give up local adjustments (even when I was using DPP, I'd export as a 16-bit TIFF to LR for touchups).

even with that .. DLO does a much better job at resolving micro contrast. it should, it reverses the AA filter.

I always forget about sharpening (I never even zoomed in 100% on that image). LR6 had the default 25 sharpening applied, also it had no noise reduction despite being taken at ISO 5000. If I play with the sharpening a bit, and turn the noise reduction to 15 (which is pretty low for ISO 5000 in comparison to what I'm used to for the EOS M) I come up with this:



I would never look at blades of grass on a lawn though. Heck, I often add grain to my photos because I like how it looks aesthetically. For better or worse, "micro contrast" on blades of grass rates at about a 0 on the scale of things I worry about.

[Edit] Wait, now I can't even tell if you think the DPP picture is better. You realize that DPP is the one on the right in your side-by-side example, yes? I think the one on the left (LR6) looks better.

 

[rrccad]

the one with the grass is much better with DPP - the rest not so much.

Those are all with zero edits. I would very rarely just import something and not touch it in LR. If I was editing it, I'd get something like this:


LR6 w/ edits

Of course you can make changes with DPP as well, but LR gives you a lot more control, and I would never give up local adjustments (even when I was using DPP, I'd export as a 16-bit TIFF to LR for touchups).

even with that .. DLO does a much better job at resolving micro contrast. it should, it reverses the AA filter.

I always forget about sharpening (I never even zoomed in 100% on that image). LR6 had the default 25 sharpening applied, also it had no noise reduction despite being taken at ISO 5000. If I play with the sharpening a bit, and turn the noise reduction to 15 (which is pretty low for ISO 5000 in comparison to what I'm used to for the EOS M) I come up with this:



I would never look at blades of grass on a lawn though. Heck, I often add grain to my photos because I like how it looks aesthetically. For better or worse, "micro contrast" on blades of grass rates at about a 0 on the scale of things I worry about.

[Edit] Wait, now I can't even tell if you think the DPP picture is better. You realize that DPP is the one on the right in your side-by-side example, yes? I think the one on the left (LR6) looks better.

one on at least my left was DPP

 

[verum lens]

the one with the grass is much better with DPP - the rest not so much.

Those are all with zero edits. I would very rarely just import something and not touch it in LR. If I was editing it, I'd get something like this:


LR6 w/ edits

Of course you can make changes with DPP as well, but LR gives you a lot more control, and I would never give up local adjustments (even when I was using DPP, I'd export as a 16-bit TIFF to LR for touchups).

even with that .. DLO does a much better job at resolving micro contrast. it should, it reverses the AA filter.

I always forget about sharpening (I never even zoomed in 100% on that image). LR6 had the default 25 sharpening applied, also it had no noise reduction despite being taken at ISO 5000. If I play with the sharpening a bit, and turn the noise reduction to 15 (which is pretty low for ISO 5000 in comparison to what I'm used to for the EOS M) I come up with this:



I would never look at blades of grass on a lawn though. Heck, I often add grain to my photos because I like how it looks aesthetically. For better or worse, "micro contrast" on blades of grass rates at about a 0 on the scale of things I worry about.

[Edit] Wait, now I can't even tell if you think the DPP picture is better. You realize that DPP is the one on the right in your side-by-side example, yes? I think the one on the left (LR6) looks better.

one on at least my left was DPP

Oops, sorry, you're correct.

 

[verum lens]

No comparison with DPP, I took this today and barely touched it in LR6 (-0.33 exp, +10 contrast, +20 clarity, -100 vignetting, that's it, I didn't touch colors). Taken with my Helios 44-2, which I love using for flower shots:

 

[verum lens]

Very pleased with the results I've been getting from Lightroom 6. Here's a couple photos straight from LR 6 with defaults (Lens Correction Profile turned on) and straight from DPP w/ defaults (50% DLO, default sharpness, noise reduction, Auto Lighting Optimizer Off since it pushes and pulls shadows and highlights automatically):

First comparison got messed up, fixed.




LR6




DPP

 

[rrccad]

probably with something like the DxO plugin the comparison would be closer.

DLO does 18 different camera / lens optical corrections, including diffraction, and AA filter.

I do like the abilities of LR - I would probably switch over if it handled channel swapping. however, with that, I still have to go to photoshop making the entire process just as lengthy one way or another.

 

[verum lens]

probably with something like the DxO plugin the comparison would be closer.

DLO does 18 different camera / lens optical corrections, including diffraction, and AA filter.

I do like the abilities of LR - I would probably switch over if it handled channel swapping. however, with that, I still have to go to photoshop making the entire process just as lengthy one way or another.

Unfortunately DxO doesn't support the EOS M3 currently, so it's a moot point right now:

http://www.dxo.com/us/photography/photo-software/dxo-opticspro/supported-cameras

 

[sillette]

We unfortunately do not have any information regarding this camera at this time.

This was DXO's reply to my query as to when the EOS M3 would be issued as a module.

Not in the near future, I would guess.

 

[verum lens]

We unfortunately do not have any information regarding this camera at this time.

This was DXO's reply to my query as to when the EOS M3 would be issued as a module.

Not in the near future, I would guess.

How long ago was that? The camera just went on sale in Europe, where DxO is located. It uses the same sensor as the 750D and 760D, so hopefully it would be easy to add support.

I just asked them myself, maybe more requests will equate to more attention

 

[sillette]

Yesterday.

 

[verum lens]

Yesterday.

Well, now they'll get 2 requests in 24 hours, demand is high!