Canon S120 vs S200

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The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).

Thanks.

Don
 
I think these two are not to be compared in the way you`re trying to - it`s not the same camera "line" (despite the "S" name), where S200 is an offspring for people that don`t need all the options (including the image quality) brought by the regular "S" models (currently S120), and yet would like to pay less for after all a more modest package. And I think they both appeared almost simultaneously, or S200 maybe some days/weeks later, but S120 is still more expensive, and a more capable one.

S120 is the latest (last) iteration of a line that includes S90, S95, S100 and S110. A successor here is still not even being rumored about, and some even doubt if there will be a successor at all, after G7 X has been made - but while surely much better, it is still much more expensive (and while still pocketable it is noticeably thicker/heaver), so it may not be a real alternative for people being happy with an "S" PowerShot.

Here`s a quick comparison between S120 and S200 -- http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-PowerShot-S120-vs-Canon-PowerShot-S200, go through it, noting all the differences between the two (if not already), and while it really depends on personal preference and needs, I think that S120 is (much) better overall.

Regarding the image quality, S120 should come on top, especially as the amount of light in the scene starts to drop ((back-side illuminated?) CMOS sensor vs CCD), and having a possibility to process RAW files should be a plus as well.

Please note that some will argue that CCD sensor (found in S200, and previously in S95 before it was replaced by CMOS in S100) will produce better images in good light, yet I can`t comment on that (no much experience with it, really), but I doubt the difference (if any) would be all that obvious (except maybe on heavy pixel peeping, which these cameras are not made for) - please someone correct me if I`m wrong.

And one more thing - landscape photography usually requires sharpness from "end to end", where it is a huge challenge for a majority of small, compact cameras with zoom lenses, especially at the wide end on the lens (where landscape is usually shot with), as additional software correction is needed to compensate for image distortion, causing a loss of detail (softness, smudginess) in the corners of the image.

This is to be expected, and many may not even notice it when viewing images on the screen or making a small to medium size prints, but once the image is zoomed in or the print is a bit bigger, it will be noticeable - yet that is the price you pay for otherwise a convenience of having a small, compact camera (with a zoom lens) that fits in your pocket.
 
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The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).
If you don't need RAW, video or high continuous shooting rates, but shoot mainly in daylight, I would favour the S200.

The small CCD sensors were considered superior to CMOS for still photography but had the disadvantage of inherently slower circuitry. The BSI technology added maybe half a stop of low light/high ISO performance, but did nothing for daylight shooting.

My subjective opinion is that the daylight results from my CCD equipped S95 were slightly better than those from my CMOS equipped S110. Both are gone now so I can't demonstrate it.

Nick
 
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The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).
If you don't need RAW, video or high continuous shooting rates, but shoot mainly in daylight, I would favour the S200.

The small CCD sensors were considered superior to CMOS for still photography but had the disadvantage of inherently slower circuitry. The BSI technology added maybe half a stop of low light/high ISO performance, but did nothing for daylight shooting.

My subjective opinion is that the daylight results from my CCD equipped S95 were slightly better than those from my CMOS equipped S110. Both are gone now so I can't demonstrate it.

Nick
Just a guess, but this may have been placebo affect left over from the 90's and early 2000's. Modern CMOS provide images every bit as good as modern CCD.
 
The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).
If you don't need RAW, video or high continuous shooting rates, but shoot mainly in daylight, I would favour the S200.

The small CCD sensors were considered superior to CMOS for still photography but had the disadvantage of inherently slower circuitry. The BSI technology added maybe half a stop of low light/high ISO performance, but did nothing for daylight shooting.

My subjective opinion is that the daylight results from my CCD equipped S95 were slightly better than those from my CMOS equipped S110. Both are gone now so I can't demonstrate it.

Nick
Just a guess, but this may have been placebo affect left over from the 90's and early 2000's. Modern CMOS provide images every bit as good as modern CCD.
Yes, the latest CMOS have evolved, but then CCD would likely have benefitted from further development. The change to CMOS was essentially driven by marketing, not IQ. We don't know whether the CCD in the S200 is 4 year old Sony stock or whether it too has benefitted from evolving sensor improvements. Arguably it does benefit from having just 10mp.

UK consumer organisation Which? rate S200 very highly. In UK the S200 can be had for around half the price of S120. A steal in my view, provided you can live with the missing features.

Nick
 
The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).

Thanks.

Don
s200: no RAW, only 1280x720 video, no touchscreen. Forget it.

get the s110: RAW, 1920x1080 video, has a touchscreen. Only $179:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSh...0?ie=UTF8&qid=1425927307&sr=8-1&keywords=s110
 
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As noted in the previous the S200 is not a successor to the "S100" (S100 ~ S120) series. Per what I've found out the S200 is a cheaper/step-down version of the S110. Hence a separate "S200" series.

AFAIK the S200 has not been officially distributed/sold in the USA by Canon.

Of course Canon's numbering system for the same camera sold in different countries increases the confusion -- USA PowerShot S200; and with Canon reusing the same name PowerShot S100, PowerShot S110, etc. only further adds to the confusion. :-|
 
The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).
If you don't need RAW, video or high continuous shooting rates, but shoot mainly in daylight, I would favour the S200.

The small CCD sensors were considered superior to CMOS for still photography but had the disadvantage of inherently slower circuitry. The BSI technology added maybe half a stop of low light/high ISO performance, but did nothing for daylight shooting.

My subjective opinion is that the daylight results from my CCD equipped S95 were slightly better than those from my CMOS equipped S110. Both are gone now so I can't demonstrate it.

Nick
Just a guess, but this may have been placebo affect left over from the 90's and early 2000's. Modern CMOS provide images every bit as good as modern CCD.
Yes, the latest CMOS have evolved, but then CCD would likely have benefitted from further development. The change to CMOS was essentially driven by marketing, not IQ. We don't know whether the CCD in the S200 is 4 year old Sony stock or whether it too has benefitted from evolving sensor improvements. Arguably it does benefit from having just 10mp. ...
Based upon what I've read CMOS sensors are better for video, less noise at higher ISO's and consume less energy than CDD sensors. All the current CCD sensor PowerShot cameras only support 720p HD video.

FYI just do a Google "CCD vs CMOS" search for more info. BTW it's not just the improvement sensor technology, but the combination of the improvement of sensor technology and firmware/software technology.

Back when Oly first made the switch from CDD to CMOS sensors a lot of Oly users complain that the CMOS sensors did not have the valued "Oly Colors". Shortly after Oly announced that the full 4/3 DSLR's were being discontinued I made the switch to Canon DSLR's, hence have not kept up with current Oly DSLR's sensor IQ.

Personally main reason I'm keeping my old Oly C8080 is due to it's CDD IQ/colors at ISO 50 reminds me of looking at my Kodachrome 25 and 64 slides. ;-)
 
I need to use 17x30" photos on the wall of our church. Can anyone tell me if the Canon S120 images can be blown up to this size reliably? And, yeah, I know it all depends on my photographic skills but let's assume I can take a good enough photo.

My question is: Are the S120's images good enough to display at that size?
 
I need to use 17x30" photos on the wall of our church. Can anyone tell me if the Canon S120 images can be blown up to this size reliably? And, yeah, I know it all depends on my photographic skills but let's assume I can take a good enough photo.

My question is: Are the S120's images good enough to display at that size?
Guess it will depend on how close you're standing from the print. ;-)

Personally if I wanted a good quality 17"x30" print to be displayed on a wall in my church (or any public display) I'd be using my 70D with the 17-55 f/2.8 (or 15-85 IS if needed the WA).

Technically, as you may know, the 12MP (4000 X 3000) at 300 DPI setting will print size is 13.33" x 10.0", and at 240 DPI setting pint size 16.67 x 12.5".

If you print the 17"x30" size yourself you can easily download some full-size S120 (JPG and/or RAW) files and print. If you cannot print the 17"x30" size yourself you could print a 8"x10" portion of the image at the same DPI for the 17"x30" size to judge quality.

If the 17"x30" size is a high priority, I would highly recommend getting one of the 20MP 1" sensor compact cameras (Canon G7 X, Sony RX100 III), or the Panasonic LX100.

DPR's High-end pocketable compacts roundup (2014)

DPR's Enthusiast compact camera roundup (2014)

Cheers,

Jon
 
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How can Canon justify the high price of the S200 vs. the S110? Unless you're one of the folks who believes CCD color is better than CMOS color, the S110 trumps it in every aspect.

The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).

Thanks.

Don
s200: no RAW, only 1280x720 video, no touchscreen. Forget it.

get the s110: RAW, 1920x1080 video, has a touchscreen. Only $179:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSh...0?ie=UTF8&qid=1425927307&sr=8-1&keywords=s110
 
How can Canon justify the high price of the S200 vs. the S110? Unless you're one of the folks who believes CCD color is better than CMOS color, the S110 trumps it in every aspect.
The S200 is newer but the S120 seems to get getter reviews. I'm inclined to go with the older, cheaper unless....

I need the camera that gives me better image quality. Anyone have information on which of these cameras gets better images (landscape, especially).

Thanks.

Don
s200: no RAW, only 1280x720 video, no touchscreen. Forget it.

get the s110: RAW, 1920x1080 video, has a touchscreen. Only $179:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSh...0?ie=UTF8&qid=1425927307&sr=8-1&keywords=s110
s110 is a 2012 model, the s200 from 2014. The s110 started off at a higher price and dropped over time, just like the s200 will.

But, yeah, they're not comparable to begin with.
 
Physicals, IIR the S200 is slightly lighter

S200 : 181 gr

S120 : 200 gr

Approximately. So not a big deal... but who knows how it feel, 20gr less, maybe it's a threshold between two sensations of pocketability .. ?

L
 

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