X-S1 shots tinkered with in Lightroom

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Haven't been out much lately, more hours at work, and less daylight for getting out walking, but got a few last week on a murky day in some woods, and got tinkering with some presets in Lightroom. Just thought I'd share.

FWIW, I'd also decided, for once, to switch to EXR Auto mode, rather than my preferred Raw+L+DR100+ISO100 setting.



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Very nice Andy . I love black and whites. Hoping to get up to Scarborough before Xmas myself . If we get any snow I'm thinking of calling in at Danes dyke for a few scenic shots. Cheers Paul uk
 
Hi Andy,

Firstly, I should preface my remarks by confessing to being a noob with the X-S1 and totally ignorant of Photoshop/Lightroom.

I really like those shots - and I was rather (pleasantly) surprised to read that you used EXR 'Auto' mode. So many other X-S1 threads that I've read had left a negative impression about using EXR 'Auto' and therefore I have refrained from doing so; but now I will try it out.

Re your use of Lightroom, can you give me a better understanding as to how you went about 'enhancing' your images (btw, what are presets)? So far my pp experience is with Picasa, but I've gotten a few hints that I may be getting Lightroom for Christmas!!!

Thanks in advance for any enLightenment (excuse the pun - I couldn't resist). ;)

pv
 
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Hi Andy,

Firstly, I should preface my remarks by confessing to being a noob with the X-S1 and totally ignorant of Photoshop/Lightroom.

I really like those shots - and I was rather (pleasantly) surprised to read that you used EXR 'Auto' mode. So many other X-S1 threads that I've read had left a negative impression about using EXR 'Auto' and therefore I have refrained from doing so; but now I will try it out.
I normally ignore the EXR modes myself, but just for once, and as it's a local spot I've taken many pictures of before, I decided to switch to EXR just for a bit of fun. As it happens, I've been pleasantly surprised by the results. I think now that Raw is certainly OK, but does need some work to get the very best results. EXR modes do seem handy when conditions are tricky, and I want to be lazy about setup and post processing.
Re your use of Lightroom, can you give me a better understanding as to how you went about 'enhancing' your images (btw, what are presets)? So far my pp experience is with Picasa, but I've gotten a few hints that I may be getting Lightroom for Christmas!!!
Lightroom is definitely a good choice if you want to shoot Raw. Otherwise, almost anything is fine if you stick with JPEGs. If you're starting from scratch, RawTherapee is pretty good for free too, and works very well with the X-S1 Raw images. However, there's a lot of support for Lightroom, with many plugins and presets available, as well as help and advice everywhere (much of it will be conflicting though, you'll need to find out what works best for you).

The presets I used were basically all the free ones that are available for download via the Adobe website, or any others I could find from a Google search. I do some basic adjustments first, just setting black point and highlight recovery, a little sharpening, and that's about it. Then I use the presets according to the result I want from the image (I have them organised into Adobe ones, and Third Party ones, and then split into normal and monochrome).

OnOne do a few for a start:

http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/lightroom-presets/

And have a look here too:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/presets/discuss/72157612664073371/

My only tip is to use the presets as a starting point, some may work 'out of the box' others will get you near to what you want with a little extra tweaking.
Thanks in advance for any enLightenment (excuse the pun - I couldn't resist). ;)
Groan.
 
Thanks Andy. I've just been shooting JPEGs in my first 2-months with the X-S1 (again because of the threads/blogs which seem to indicate that the X-S1's JPEG images are as good as I'm likely to get from the camera).

I'm fairly certain Lightroom will be in my Christmas sock, so it's probably a good idea for me to start reading-up on how to get started with it. Any suggestions for someone with NO Photoshop experience? Picasa has been my pp of choice over the past few years, but now I'm more aware of its limitations, besides which it seems that Google may abandon it!

pv
 
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Thanks Andy. I've just been shooting JPEGs in my first 2-months with the X-S1 (again because of the threads/blogs which seem to indicate that the X-S1's JPEG images are as good as I'm likely to get from the camera).
Well yeah, that's an old argument of course. I have found that the results can vary a lot depending on many factors. Overall I do prefer Raw, but they can result in much poorer images if you're not careful. However, they also give you much more leeway for correcting, and *can* give a better final image if everything is right, and you get to grips with the Raw post processing workflow.
I'm fairly certain Lightroom will be in my Christmas sock, so it's probably a good idea for me to start reading-up on how to get started with it. Any suggestions for someone with NO Photoshop experience? Picasa has been my pp of choice over the past few years, but now I'm more aware of its limitations, besides which it seems that Google may abandon it!
I'd personally start with the online videos that are available on the Adobe website, as well as a bit of a trawl through YouTube, which does have some good tutorials too.

My basic advise is to think 'less is more' - make small adjustments, and don't try to fix something that isn't broken! I use a base sharpening setting (low amount, highest detail setting, and a small amount of mask), which I apply during import, and carry out simply black/white point settings, and that's about it mostly.

Look at Lightroom as a way to 'manage' your image collection, and the overall 'workflow', i.e. Importing > culling > tagging > Editing > Storage > Final Output. You tend to leave Final output until such time as you need an image for a purpose, Lightroom is used to store all your images, and manage the filing system using folders and keywords, and allow non-destructive editing.

Only when you need to output a final image do you actually carry that process out - for example, if you want some images for a web page, then you can export them using the appropriate web JPEG settings. If you want to print, then you'll possible either print straight from Lightroom, or export to a TIFF perhaps. These export files can then be safely deleted when finished with, as you can always recreate more copies - look on Lightroom as a kind of photo negative storage system (indeed a Raw file is a digital equivalent of a photo negative).

Of course the idea is that Lightroom is a flexible system, and people will have different preferred ways of working with it. I'd suggest making a small batch of copy images, and using some of the tutorials, try out different ways of working, and see what you prefer.
 
Very nice Andy . I love black and whites. Hoping to get up to Scarborough before Xmas myself . If we get any snow I'm thinking of calling in at Danes dyke for a few scenic shots. Cheers Paul uk
Cheers.

Yes, there are some good spots around here, although I've kind of done them to death with cameras in the last few years. Haven't been to Danes Dyke yet, but have been around the area, along Brid and Filey seafronts. The harbour at Scarborough can be interesting too, as with the cliffs along the North side (from the Sealife Centre).
 
Great looking series Andy! Happy to see these images in b/w from your X-S1. I'm new to the camera and in the learning process. Thanks for posting.
 
Every shot very artistic and very beautiful.
 
Nice shots.

The exr modes are great in the xs1 and x10.

I think they are underated because in exr-auto the camera chooses everything and experienced photographers dont like it.

I personnally use exr modes but not exr-auto: I set each of exr modes to a different user' preset mode, and this way I can tune the mode to my taste, and many settings like iso, af, film simulation, can be applied in the field, giving more control on the output.

I set exr-hr to c1, exr dr to c2 and exr-sn to c3.

Exr-hr gives L size best resolution, sharper imo than in pasm, but with dr100 only.

Exr-dr with dr auto gives the best dr, the tonal curve of the jpegs seems different than with m-size pasm. And you can experiment dr 800 or even dr 1600 for extreme contrast scenes, it is really a powerful setting.

Exr-sn gives imo the best jpegs for iso settings 1600 or 3200: not a lot of details, of course, but nice looking saturated and contrasted pictures, with acceptable noise.
 
Haven't been out much lately, more hours at work, and less daylight for getting out walking, but got a few last week on a murky day in some woods, and got tinkering with some presets in Lightroom. Just thought I'd share.

FWIW, I'd also decided, for once, to switch to EXR Auto mode, rather than my preferred Raw+L+DR100+ISO100 setting.

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Andy, would you please show the original image above each of those edited images, so that we can see just how much 'tinkering' was done in Lightroom? ;-)

pv
 
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Great looking series Andy! Happy to see these images in b/w from your X-S1. I'm new to the camera and in the learning process. Thanks for posting.
Thanks, and you're welcome :-)
 
Andy, would you please show the original image above each of those edited images, so that we can see just how much 'tinkering' was done in Lightroom? ;-)
OK, I was reluctant to do this, firstly because I just wanted to post these for the simple pleasure of it, and secondly because I didn't want to start another EXR bashing thread. However, if it helps then here goes.

I'll actually go one better, and I'm posting both the OOC JPEG images, and a set that were my initial PP'ing in Lightroom. The sets will be posted in the following replies to this message.

Cheers.
 
These are the OOC images:

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