Would ever DPreview post a 100D /SL1 review ?

[guinness2]

Is that delay normal and me impatient ?

 

[TeeForeEye]

guinness2 wrote:

Is that delay normal and me impatient ?

I've seen reviews take much longer to be posted, so I think it's normal (for now). Although, you'd think they would have released it by now since it will probably be a very "small" and "light" review... ;-)

 

[Lemming51]

guinness2 wrote:

Is that delay normal and me impatient ?

For example, dpreview's "hands on preview" of the Nikon D5200 appeared on Nov. 9, 2012. The camera was released in USA on January 8, 2013, and dpreview added to their preview in February. But the full review wasn't published until May 16, 2013.

http://www.dpreview.com/search/editorial?query=nikon d5200

Canon announced the 100D/SL1 on Mar. 21, 2013 and dpreview had their "hands on preview" then. Maybe we'll have the full review by November.

 

[ByronP]

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

So the dpreview will tell us very little that we don't already know. In my opinion the review is near wothless the longer the camera is in the hands of consumers.



Bp

 

[R2D2]

guinness2 wrote:

Is that delay normal and me impatient ?

They'll definitely have a review (it's a unique camera). However as mentioned it may take a while.

I'd really like to hear what they say.

R2

 

[c.hammett]

guinness2 wrote:

Is that delay normal and me impatient ?

I got tired of waiting for a dpreview review, and ordered my SL1 last weekend from B&H, and it came Wednesday. I love the camera, and while I can't answer your questions about sensor and mirror lockup and such technical info, I love the IQ, colors, fast focus and (from what I can determine) no shutter lag. I guess you could say these results are more important to me than how they are obtained !

I have several friends who wanted to see how the Sl1 handles low light, contrasty light and high ISO. So I made a small gallery of images where I posted some images straight out-of-camera with no PP or editing of any kind other than resizing, where I tried out the camera in in different kinds of light and ISO. If anyone is interested here's the link.

Galleries by carolyn hammett

www.pbase.com

There is a brief explanation under each image. I have a little more commentary re: my impressions of the SL1 on a thread I posted a couple of hours ago here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51601692

My apologies to all if this is an inappropriate reply to this thread, since the o/p was interested in info on the dpreview.com review as opposed to that of an ordinary user !

carolyn

--

Ranger a.k.a chammett

Galleries by carolyn hammett

www.pbase.com

'elegance is simplicity'

 

[Jared Huntr]

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

 

[guinness2]

Perfectly appropriate, thanks a lot for your opinion. Time enough to Christmas

c.hammett wrote:

guinness2 wrote:

Is that delay normal and me impatient ?

I got tired of waiting for a dpreview review, and ordered my SL1 last weekend from B&H, and it came Wednesday. I love the camera, and while I can't answer your questions about sensor and mirror lockup and such technical info, I love the IQ, colors, fast focus and (from what I can determine) no shutter lag. I guess you could say these results are more important to me than how they are obtained !

I have several friends who wanted to see how the Sl1 handles low light, contrasty light and high ISO. So I made a small gallery of images where I posted some images straight out-of-camera with no PP or editing of any kind other than resizing, where I tried out the camera in in different kinds of light and ISO. If anyone is interested here's the link.

http://www.pbase.com/chammett/canon_sl1_experiments

There is a brief explanation under each image. I have a little more commentary re: my impressions of the SL1 on a thread I posted a couple of hours ago here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51601692

My apologies to all if this is an inappropriate reply to this thread, since the o/p was interested in info on the dpreview.com review as opposed to that of an ordinary user !

carolyn

--

Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett
'elegance is simplicity'

 

[guinness2]

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

So the dpreview will tell us very little that we don't already know. In my opinion the review is near wothless the longer the camera is in the hands of consumers.

Bp

For me, dPreview reviews were the best source of info ever , they have good and constant methodology, tradition and experienced reviewers. I am using it since 2007 for that. Of course, by camera I am keen also to try it in a store, when it comes. With full respect to experienced members here, some user "reviews" in a manner dpreview introduced recently here, are, well, how to say without pun intended, more voting about satisfaction or individual experiences, than real reviews. Some helpful, some enthusiastic only. Pretty normal in internet discussions.

Thanks to all for their opinions, much appreciated.

 

[TeeForeEye]

Jared Huntr wrote:

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

That fraction of a second improvement is critical when using Live View since Live View is usually used while on a tripod and photographing static subjects. I don't know how we all took pictures before this amazing technological advancement. LOL

 

[robbert100]

They have to publish the EOS-M review first...

 

[Jared Huntr]

TeeForeEye wrote:

Jared Huntr wrote:

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

That fraction of a second improvement is critical when using Live View since Live View is usually used while on a tripod and photographing static subjects. I don't know how we all took pictures before this amazing technological advancement. LOL

And here is my response to your same answer before you got your nasty replies deleted by the moderator:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51605256

 

[TeeForeEye]

Jared Huntr wrote:

TeeForeEye wrote:

Jared Huntr wrote:

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

That fraction of a second improvement is critical when using Live View since Live View is usually used while on a tripod and photographing static subjects. I don't know how we all took pictures before this amazing technological advancement. LOL

And here is my response to your same answer before you got your nasty replies deleted by the moderator:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51605256

Nothing was deleted.

Here is mine: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51611557

 

[Lord metroid]

I had a lockup of my Canon EOS 100D once. All of a sudden the AF got crazy and didn't stop trying to lock constantly adjusting. I tried switching modes, I tried going to movie mode, I tried switching to live view and back again, I tried removing the lens and putting it back on but nothing made it stop. I finally gave up and ejected the battery and put it in again. That made it stop.

Other than that one time incident I have had no troubles.

 

[ZiggyDeath]

TeeForeEye wrote:

Jared Huntr wrote:

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

That fraction of a second improvement is critical when using Live View since Live View is usually used while on a tripod and photographing static subjects. I don't know how we all took pictures before this amazing technological advancement. LOL

You really seem to hate LV for someone who keeps hammering the point that Articulating screen > Fixed screen.

But then I suppose your counter-argument would be that it's for shooting video (and you shouldn't use it for pictures, anyway), to which I will then reply:

"I don't know how we all took video on camcorders before this amazing technological advancement."

And you know, if you are taking pictures of truly static subjects, you can get better precision/accuracy going into 10x zoom on LV to make sure it's guaranteed in focus, without having to rely on on the OVF cross sensors - unless you have a 1Dx or a 5D3.

 

[TeeForeEye]

ZiggyDeath wrote:

TeeForeEye wrote:

Jared Huntr wrote:

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

That fraction of a second improvement is critical when using Live View since Live View is usually used while on a tripod and photographing static subjects. I don't know how we all took pictures before this amazing technological advancement. LOL

You really seem to hate LV for someone who keeps hammering the point that Articulating screen > Fixed screen.

But then I suppose your counter-argument would be that it's for shooting video (and you shouldn't use it for pictures, anyway), to which I will then reply:

"I don't know how we all took video on camcorders before this amazing technological advancement."

And you know, if you are taking pictures of truly static subjects, you can get better precision/accuracy going into 10x zoom on LV to make sure it's guaranteed in focus, without having to rely on on the OVF cross sensors - unless you have a 1Dx or a 5D3.

Yes, and I do use the 10X zoom to focus when in Live View, but that involves using manual focus; so again, I don't see the big deal over a fraction of a second faster AF when shooting static objects and using manual focus in the end anyway. But if you think that somehow makes you a better photographer, I don't see it.

 

[PC Wheeler]

Delay is normal.

 

[Olga Johnson]

TeeForeEye wrote:

Jared Huntr wrote:

TeeForeEye wrote:

Jared Huntr wrote:

ByronP wrote:

That is the question, "What don't we know about the sl1?" From my perspective we know the sensor is roughly the same as Canon's other t4i or t5i. What we don't know is how much better (faster) is live view focusing.

You can get a pretty good idea of the Live View speed improvement of the SL1 over the T4i/T5i here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51456060

It matches my own first hand experience with these 3 models.

That fraction of a second improvement is critical when using Live View since Live View is usually used while on a tripod and photographing static subjects. I don't know how we all took pictures before this amazing technological advancement. LOL

And here is my response to your same answer before you got your nasty replies deleted by the moderator:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51605256

Nothing was deleted.

Here is mine: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51611557

Which you posted after I deleted previous posts. When deleting one post, all posts that are in reply to that post get deleted as well.

 

[R2D2]

Olga Johnson wrote:

When deleting one post, all posts that are in reply to that post get deleted as well.

That solves a couple of mysteries. ;-)

R2

 

[Olga Johnson]

R2D2 wrote:

Olga Johnson wrote:

When deleting one post, all posts that are in reply to that post get deleted as well.

That solves a couple of mysteries. ;-)

I'm sure it does. If you look at a thread in threaded view, when one message is deleted, all sub thread posts of that one message get deleted too. Sometimes the deletion of one post results in some good posts to be deleted as well. Collateral damage.