Unsharp mask. Adobe watch out.

[JulesJ]

Mike Channey's Qimage seems to have overtaken PhotoShop here when it comes to sharpening. Take a look at all of this video. I wonder how long it will be before Adobe buy this from him and install it into PS, if they would dare to stoop for a second!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AiVoXcB1uzk&vq=hd1080

Jules

 

[Mark B.]

JulesJ wrote:

Mike Channey's Qimage seems to have overtaken PhotoShop here when it comes to sharpening. Take a look at all of this video. I wonder how long it will be before Adobe buy this from him and install it into PS, if they would dare to stoop for a second!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AiVoXcB1uzk&vq=hd1080

Jules

I've been using Qimage for many years for final print sharpening when printing.

 

[Leon Wittwer]

Adobe long ago made major improvements in their sharpening algorithms. The new methods are called "Smart Sharpen" among other things.

 

[DanTHEME]

Might be world's best printing software, loved Qimage back then on Windows and really missed when moving to OS X, but that they still don't offer a native Mac version is beyond me.

 

[Lin Evans]

Hi Mark,

Me too, but this is something entirely different and only found in Qimage Ultimate...

Best regards,

Lin

Mark B. wrote:

JulesJ wrote:

Mike Channey's Qimage seems to have overtaken PhotoShop here when it comes to sharpening. Take a look at all of this video. I wonder how long it will be before Adobe buy this from him and install it into PS, if they would dare to stoop for a second!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AiVoXcB1uzk&vq=hd1080

Jules

I've been using Qimage for many years for final print sharpening when printing.

 

[alan996]

Regarding Qimgae and Mac OS. Mr Chaney posted a series of notes a few years ago outlining his attempts to port Qimage to Mac. If my memory serves Apple refused him any information and he would have had to re-write the application from scratch to function on a Mac. Given the percentage of Mac vs MS users this work was not worth it to him. I have both systems and use a Parallels desktop on a Mac when I want to print from Qimage on the Mac (very infrequently now).

 

[RedFox88]

is anyone still using unsharp mask? I'm not and haven't since Adobe came out with smart sharpen/adjust sharpness back with PSE 5 which I still use. Way better than unsharp mask which is an old filter adjustment.

 

[Lin Evans]

RedFox88 wrote:

is anyone still using unsharp mask? I'm not and haven't since Adobe came out with smart sharpen/adjust sharpness back with PSE 5 which I still use. Way better than unsharp mask which is an old filter adjustment.

You really should download Qimage Ultimate and give Deep Focus Sharpening a try - Free trials are available. It beats "Smart Sharpening" in Photoshop 10 ways to Sunday - there "really" is nothing else like it in my experience.

Best regards,

Lin

 

[RedFox88]

Lin Evans wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

is anyone still using unsharp mask? I'm not and haven't since Adobe came out with smart sharpen/adjust sharpness back with PSE 5 which I still use. Way better than unsharp mask which is an old filter adjustment.

You really should download Qimage Ultimate and give Deep Focus Sharpening a try - Free trials are available.

I already have smart sharpen, nothing to buy which beats whatever that is you are trying to get me to buy!

 

[Lin Evans]

Why would I care whether you buy something or not? Probably it's not useful to make unwarranted assumptions.

Lin

RedFox88 wrote:

Lin Evans wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

is anyone still using unsharp mask? I'm not and haven't since Adobe came out with smart sharpen/adjust sharpness back with PSE 5 which I still use. Way better than unsharp mask which is an old filter adjustment.

You really should download Qimage Ultimate and give Deep Focus Sharpening a try - Free trials are available.

I already have smart sharpen, nothing to buy which beats whatever that is you are trying to get me to buy!

 

[mailman88]

.....Whenever I shoot raw (always), I sharpen AFTER processing my pic. I never sharpen until I finish noise removal and correcting white balanace and exposure. Sharpening is the LAST thing I do, using Adobe Elements sharpening tab...with lens blur. View at 100%, sharpen until I see no detail lost.

By the way, I use Qimage Ultimate for printing. Most of the time my pics don't need sharpening at printing.

 

[mailman88]

Since I use 3 noiseware programs at once using Adobe Elelments 8 or Lightroom 4.4. Qimage Ultimate can not beat these programs at noise reduction.

 

[JulesJ]

Lin Evans wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

is anyone still using unsharp mask? I'm not and haven't since Adobe came out with smart sharpen/adjust sharpness back with PSE 5 which I still use. Way better than unsharp mask which is an old filter adjustment.

You really should download Qimage Ultimate and give Deep Focus Sharpening a try - Free trials are available. It beats "Smart Sharpening" in Photoshop 10 ways to Sunday - there "really" is nothing else like it in my experience.

Best regards,

Lin

 

[JulesJ]

RedFox88 wrote:

Lin Evans wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

is anyone still using unsharp mask? I'm not and haven't since Adobe came out with smart sharpen/adjust sharpness back with PSE 5 which I still use. Way better than unsharp mask which is an old filter adjustment.

You really should download Qimage Ultimate and give Deep Focus Sharpening a try - Free trials are available.

I already have smart sharpen, nothing to buy which beats whatever that is you are trying to get me to buy!

That's fine if you are happy with what you have got. if you print though, and don't have Qimage then it is an extra added incentive. After struggling for ages trying to print from PS and apply profiles and trying to use paper economically and nestle multiple images onto one sheet of A2, Qimage was a godsend. I hated Adobe's PhotoShop printing interface. After so many years of writing software the fact that they never improved the printing part was unbelievable. Qimage did just that and so much more.

 

[JulesJ]

mailman88 wrote:

.....Whenever I shoot raw (always), I sharpen AFTER processing my pic. I never sharpen until I finish noise removal and correcting white balanace and exposure. Sharpening is the LAST thing I do, using Adobe Elements sharpening tab...with lens blur. View at 100%, sharpen until I see no detail lost.

By the way, I use Qimage Ultimate for printing. Most of the time my pics don't need sharpening at printing.

Do you print with Qimage with the sharpening set at default (ie 5)? If so you are sharpening. Zero is no sharpening.

 

[JulesJ]

mailman88 wrote:

Since I use 3 noiseware programs at once using Adobe Elelments 8 or Lightroom 4.4. Qimage Ultimate can not beat these programs at noise reduction.

I don't think Qimage ever claimed great noise reduction features.

 

[JulesJ]

Mark B. wrote:

JulesJ wrote:

Mike Channey's Qimage seems to have overtaken PhotoShop here when it comes to sharpening. Take a look at all of this video. I wonder how long it will be before Adobe buy this from him and install it into PS, if they would dare to stoop for a second!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AiVoXcB1uzk&vq=hd1080

Jules

I've been using Qimage for many years for final print sharpening when printing.

Same here. I do a tiny bit when converting from Raw and then use the default (5) in Qimage. It works a treat.

 

[JulesJ]

alan996 wrote:

Regarding Qimgae and Mac OS. Mr Chaney posted a series of notes a few years ago outlining his attempts to port Qimage to Mac. If my memory serves Apple refused him any information and he would have had to re-write the application from scratch to function on a Mac. Given the percentage of Mac vs MS users this work was not worth it to him. I have both systems and use a Parallels desktop on a Mac when I want to print from Qimage on the Mac (very infrequently now).

I too retouch on a Mac and then print from my PC, have done for years. It works , so I don't fix it. They are connected over my network and next to each other. It's nice to have a dedicated printing computer.

 

[Adrian Harris]

JulesJ wrote:

Mike Channey's Qimage seems to have overtaken PhotoShop here when it comes to sharpening. Take a look at all of this video. I wonder how long it will be before Adobe buy this from him and install it into PS, if they would dare to stoop for a second!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AiVoXcB1uzk&vq=hd1080

Jules

Well I watched the Qimage video and it obviously works very well, but what it showed me most of all was that - the guy demonstrating it has no idea at all on how to use unsharp mask properly! ...as the results I get even from Photoshop CS2 using USM are easily equal to what he is getting from Qimage.

If you want to get serious about sharpening, you need to look at the 'wavelet' sharpening processes used in many astro-photography programs - which are free by the way.

 

[mailman88]

....zero sharpening with qimage most of the time. I might use it with portraits if needed