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Don, I do title and description also for my galleries. How about trying my frame demo gallery--I didn't use the standard style sheet for this one, but changed some things and used different--plus it has titles and description.I've been having this problem with selected pbase galleries for at
least several weeks. Only a small pct of galleries seem to have a
problem. Like has been suggested, I can view the images fine in IE
if I just put in the url to the image, or just right-click and dl
the image. This makes me suspect that the problem lies with the CSS
style sheets for the page. The only difference I noted in the html
for Bogie's gallery that worked and Lana's that didn't is that Lana
used a title and description for the gallery. Could this possibly
be it?
- DL
It's not Bill Gates.. it's pbase. I experienced the same issue yesterday and literally could not open ANY other sites properly after attempting to look at her gallery. There is something in the particular code for her gallery or the JPGs themselves that is that is frying IE.I think you have an issue with Bill Gates not pbase.
--Seems when I access Pbase from a DPR link, the pictures don't display. When I access from my browser, no problem.I don't post messages at pbase, but a lot of folks here do. I've
noticed several times that when pbase has problems, once I've tried
to view a gallery there then I've got problems with images
displaying on other sites. FI I tried to view (unsuccessfully) the
"Cincy" pics, and following that the "night of the iguana" won't
display on this site. If I close ALL IE windows and reopen,
everything's fine.
What is pbase doing that screws up Internet Explorer? I've become
very shy of viewing anything at pbase because then I may have to
close the half-dozen IE windows I've got open in order to
straighten things out.
- DL
I think I asked this on another thread. I haven't found a dl for Mozilla yet--only dls for developer. Is there an URL?? Just thought I'd try it.fwiw mozilla has no problems with the cincy pics. Guess maybe it's
time to dump IE once and for all.
--As a web based application developer myself, I can say fairly
confidently that the new appearance of a problem is likely due to
some change on Pbase. I do not say this however to let IE off the
hook. The root problem is that IE does not fully support web
standards for scripting etc. The fact that this problem does not
present in Mozilla indicates that the page is written to a
published standard, unfortunately it is apparent that IE doesn't
support the particular standard. Incompatibility between browsers
is the bane of my existance. It is very difficult to write a
complex application that works in 2 dozen different browsers
(different versions within one brand are effectively different
browsers). Not to mention the difficulty in actually testing all
these browsers. Granted, a photo gallery is not exactly a complex
application, but it just goes to show how hard it actually is.
I see this over and over. Web developers developing a mix of
three tier designs and using tick server thick client designs.
I am a firm believer that the web based interface should be simple
and rely on solid standards like HTML 3, cookies and SSH. CSS is a
bad idea that should never have happened. Java script and other
scripts detract from security and pose compatibility issues.
There is no reason that a web site should look 100% the same on
ALL browsers, but the content should be 100% the same. HTML was
created as a CONTENT presentation tool, not a Page description
tool and the attempts to make it that have 100% failed.
Personally, I have never had any problems with the above pages
on pbase, but that is just me. And yes, I still use lynx from
time to time. And yes. Flash is pretty cool.
Steven
--Three tier desings? Thick clients? My message is copied in
your post so I can only assume you write in response to my message.
I develop thin clients talking to java servlets. When I say thin,
I mean HTML (not 3 seeing all the older browsers I need to support
don't support it) and javascript. Javascript has a defined
standard just as HTML does. Unfortunately not all browsers support
it. Those would be compatibility issues that you mentioned, but
only because the standard is not supported. As for security
issues. . . . I cannot do anything in javascript that is malicious
without the user authorizing it when the standard is adhered to by
the browser developer. Having said that, cookies are more of a
security risk than javascript. I could go on but I am not
interested in this conversation and I am certain none of the people
on this forum are interested either. So I will let you have the
last word if you want it.
I agree. I do as much dynamic stuff as possible on the server (using CFML) and just put out straight html. My stuff works on everything including webtv, older browsers, etc. But sometimes you just have to use a little java or javascript because of limitations of html.I see this over and over. Web developers developing a mix of
three tier designs and using tick server thick client designs.
I am a firm believer that the web based interface should be simple
and rely on solid standards like HTML 3, cookies and SSH
Lana, I wrote to Slug last evening and just got an answer back. He said he viewed your gallery with IE and a variety of graphic apps and had no problems but was glad of the 'heads up' and would look into it.I am at my wits end over this. I just took some pictures of
hummingbirds....finally some picts worthy of showing. I resaved
them in a different program and then posted them on a different
site.
Please let me know if you can see these.
I know there are several people working on this issue so let's hope
for a fix....soon.
Thanks,
Lana Hays
http://homepage.mac.com/lhays/PhotoAlbum4.html
I am at my wits end over this. I just took some pictures of
hummingbirds....finally some picts worthy of showing. I resaved
them in a different program and then posted them on a different
site.
Please let me know if you can see these.
I know there are several people working on this issue so let's hope
for a fix....soon.
Thanks,
Lana Hays
http://homepage.mac.com/lhays/PhotoAlbum4.html
