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I got a D60 yesterday and have been working my way through the hefty manual...

Am I right in thinking that in P,S,A and M modes, there is no Auto ISO? I'd at least have thought there was in the P, S and A modes.

Is there a logical reason for this? Is there a "workaround"? I'm conscious, having come from P&S, that images are very clean at many ISO levels in the D60 (noise being the main reason I switched to SLR) so perhaps I can just set it at 400 or so and forget, but as a beginner I'd like it if the camera could make some of these decisions for me while I learn!
 
Just had a quick look in the menu of my D60, and you're right: you can only choose 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600 and Hi1 in the ISO settings in P,S,A and M-mode.
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keiron99 said:
I got a D60 yesterday and have been working my way through the hefty
manual...

Am I right in thinking that in P,S,A and M modes, there is no Auto
ISO? I'd at least have thought there was in the P, S and A modes.

Is there a logical reason for this? Is there a "workaround"? I'm
conscious, having come from P&S, that images are very clean at many
ISO levels in the D60 (noise being the main reason I switched to SLR)
so perhaps I can just set it at 400 or so and forget, but as a
beginner I'd like it if the camera could make some of these decisions
for me while I learn!
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I have a D40 rather than a D60 like you but I can certainly get auto iso in all 4 of the P A S and M modes.

It is activated via the menu button on the rear of the camera: 'Menu' - 'Custom Setting Menu' - press 'ISO Auto' which should be switched to on.

If you can't find this option in your menu system then you are probably in a reduced menu subset mode so go to 'Menu' - 'Setup Menu' - press 'CSM/Setup menu' then press 'Full'....you should now be able to find 'auto iso' as an option if you go back to the 'Custom setting menu'

Ian

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ianbramham said:
It is activated via the menu button on the rear of the camera:
'Menu' - 'Custom Setting Menu' - press 'ISO Auto' which should be
switched to on.

If you can't find this option in your menu system then you are
probably in a reduced menu subset mode so go to 'Menu' - 'Setup Menu'
  • press 'CSM/Setup menu' then press 'Full'....you should now be able
to find 'auto iso' as an option if you go back to the 'Custom setting
menu'

Ian
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In my D60, the "Auto ISO" option in the setup menu is greyed out when the camera dial is in P,S,A or M-mode.....

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FFolkert said:
FFolkert said:
It is activated via the menu button on the rear of the camera:
'Menu' - 'Custom Setting Menu' - press 'ISO Auto' which should be
switched to on.

If you can't find this option in your menu system then you are
probably in a reduced menu subset mode so go to 'Menu' - 'Setup Menu'
  • press 'CSM/Setup menu' then press 'Full'....you should now be able
to find 'auto iso' as an option if you go back to the 'Custom setting
menu'

Ian
Click to expand...
In my D60, the "Auto ISO" option in the setup menu is greyed out when
the camera dial is in P,S,A or M-mode.....

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That's a shame if it's true that auto-iso is not available in these modes on a D60 as I use it all the time on my D40 (apart from tripod work) as it's one of the most useful features on the camera.

Perhaps Nikon sees D60 users as more advanced than us mere novices that use the D40 :-)

Ian
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Hi

I am not that big fan of the auto iso, i often end up with a higher iso than nescesary adding unescesary noise to the image. Maybe the not the same level as an P&S, but anyway.

I would set the iso at the lowest value, when shutterspeeds are to low where you cant use the flash, bump up the iso one step at the time until the shutter speeds are adequate. It's not hard even for a beginner. In the end you will love the control you have over a P&S. Having a dedicated ISO button makes changing iso very easy.

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I'm positive the D60 uses the same auto-iso feature as all other Nikons.

Look through menus until you find a entry called Auto-ISO or the like. If you enable it, the camera will automatically adjust the iso up to the ISO you choose so you get at minimum the shutter time you also set at the same entry in the menu. It's really neat.

If you want to choose a specific ISO yourself, set auto-iso entry to OFF.

ps. It works in all of P,S,A as well as M (which might be confusing sometimes since it can make M only semi-manual.
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Lennart

 
There are two separate ISO setting locations in the D60: ISO and Auto ISO. The D60 Auto ISO settings are accessed as Ian described above.

In addition to turning the Auto ISO on and off, be sure to set the upper and lower limits of the Auto ISO feature:

Min. shutter speed = the lowest shutter speed allowed before the camera increases ISO above the ISO you have selected in the set-up menu.

Max. sensitivity = the maximum ISO setting allowed. This then defines a ISO range which the camera will function when Auto ISO is on.
 
Custom setting menu - item 10 - that's where you set auto-iso and choose your limit for high iso and the lowest shutter speed you want before it engages. Works in P,A,S and M. You will see in the viewfinder a blinking 'auto-iso' when the D60 chooses a higher iso than what you set the camera at for (ie your standard 100 for example). Works great when lighting changes in different areas of where you point to for your shots but you want the same shutter speed/aperture combo for each pic -- then the camera chooses what the correct iso should be without you having to do anything else.
 
Hit menu botton

third icon down: little pencil
  1. 10 in custom setting menu ISO AUTO
ON then OK

When the available light is sufficient for the exposure parameters you set, that is shutter speed, f-stop, EV comp. the camera will adjust the iso accordingly to expose as you desire. If the available light is brighter or insufficient the camera will show this within the viewfinder, indicating "lo" or "hi" and it even tells you how much too low or high on the ev indicator in the viewfinder ! Then you can override the minimum shutter speed to compensate, and expose correctly.

Auto iso is a great feature if you ae the type to forget to check the iso before you start shooting as I have done more times than I want to admit.

Please continue to explore this camera and the menus. I believe you will find this is a user friendly a camera once you know what is in the menus and where to find it.

PS: I have the side button (customizable) set for quick access to the ISO.

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chris
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You are looking in a different place. The ISO settings you set there are either the fixed ISO speed if the ISO Auto is Off or the lower limit of ISO adjustment when ISO Auto is On.

You cannot put Auto on ISO setting because you must set an ISO speed to be the lower limit if the ISO Auto is On. Auto on ISO menu is just for green mode and scenes mode. It's a software glitch.
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It happens because you don't set it correctly. ISO Auto is smarter than you think but you have to give it some hints about how to work. If you are concerned with the high ISO noise use the S mode to enforce a certain shutter speed or M mode to enforce both the shutter speed and the aperture. In A mode use the slowest shutter speed at the wide end of your lens.

E.g. for your 18-200 mm VR let's assume you are comfortable with 1/8 s (two stops from the 1/30 s needed without VR). You put the ISO at ISO100, Maximum sensobility at ISO800 or ISO1600 and minimum shutter speed at 1/8 s. If you zoom in use the S mode to adjust the shutter speed accordingly (up to 1/80 s).
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jp34med3 said:
Works great when lighting changes in different areas of
where you point to for your shots but you want the same shutter
speed/aperture combo for each pic -- then the camera chooses what the
correct iso should be without you having to do anything else.
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You are not necessarily guaranteed that shutter speed will not change.

When Auto ISO is on, there are two sets of "ISO/shutter speed combinations" that the camera uses. The first set is the "ISO/shutter speed" that appears in the "shooting information display". The second set is the "ISO/shutter speed" in the Auto ISO menu.

If proper exposure cannot be reached using the settings on the "shooting information display", Auto ISO will begin adjusting by first lowering the shutter speed. If proper exposure is not reached at "min. shutter speed" as set in the Auto ISO menu, the camera will then begin to raise the ISO.
 
This is quite confusing.
Here is how I think it works from playing around and reading the manual:

1 - Auto mode - Auto ISO is on, as well as in the "baby" modes.

2 - PSAM modes. You can turn Auto-ISO off in the menu, at which point the ISO is fixed to what you set it at. Or you can turn it on. You can set the parameters of the highest ISO and lowest shutter speed you will accept. When you to the menu to choose your ISO, the AUTO choice is grayed out. This is very confusing because AUTO ISO still appears in the viewfinder. What this means is that you are choosing the DEFAULT ISO in the menu and the ISO won't move higher unless the minimum shutter speed you pick won;t work for a good exposure. If the ISO is being raised this way AUTO ISO blinks in the viewfinder. This is actually quite useful, but it sure isn't obvious how it works IMHO.
 
I prefer shooting in Aperture mode to control DOF. But when I do flash photo, it goes to ISO1600 even though min shutter is set to 1/40sec and flash shutter speed to 1/60. This I cant live with, so I just disable auto iso and have full control. Its not really a problem.

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Bjarne
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Nikon D80
Nikkor AFS DX 18-200mm 3.5-5.6 G VR II
Nikkor AFS 70-300mm 4.5-5.6 G VR
Nikon SB-600
 
where do you set the lower limit ? I can only find something called max sensitivity - that should be the max iso, or am i wrong ?

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Bjarne
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Nikon D80
Nikkor AFS DX 18-200mm 3.5-5.6 G VR II
Nikkor AFS 70-300mm 4.5-5.6 G VR
Nikon SB-600
 
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