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On a tripod I use the 2s timer, which locks up the mirror first, eliminating a major source of shaking. Of course you can use shake reduction. For longer exposures I hear a vibrating sound; probably the anti-shake system becomes unstable when getting no input and causes more shake than it prevents. It can do harm to your picture, not to the camera, so feel free to try.
 
MikeAusA200 said:
Dave

I was wondering which would be better on a tripod -

a) With Timer - therefore no SR (thanks to Pentax dictatorial software)
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You don't want to use SR on a tripod, even a somewhat unsteady one. It won't really help you (the small-amplitude vibrations we're talking about with a tripod won't be reliably picked up by the motion sensors and software, which is designed for the slower, larger amplitude shaking from a human).

Use the timer. And if the tripod is unsteady, use the trick of hanging something heavy, like your camera bag, on the bottom of the central pillar between the legs (of the tripod).

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To All:

As a happy user of the Bogen Neotec monopod, I'd still be very interested to hear thoughts on the advisability of SR with a monopod.

Thanks in advance,

Larry
 
When you are shooting wedding kisses and sports you do not have time for delay timer shutter exposures, etc. So I use SR with monopods as they can sway quite a bit.

And if you think the SR cannot help for small vibrations transferred through the tripod... then try this. Setup your tripod and use a lens of 100m or longer. Then do a long exposure (3 sec. or more) with shutter up delay if you want. With the SR on, if you listen carefully you can hear the SR working. Those little magnetic micro motors are quite precise, otherwise they would not reduce such slight movement as to blur 3 or 4 pixels from the 10 million the sensor is capturing. :)

Now, in rebuttal of myself. I will say it is often hard to see any difference in the images with and without SR from a tripod. But, I have yet to see any image degradation from in body SR when used with a tripod.
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henryimages said:
I know it is not recommended to use SR with a tripod. Can any harm be
done when using SR with a monopod? I am guessing there is enough
motion with a monopod to make this less of a concern.
Thanks, Brent
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Theoretically SR should work best on a mono-pod since the free movements are effectively limited to the pitch and yaw for which the camera can compensate and they are also damped somewhat as the pole is grounded.

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Rob

 
As Mike has aready said " In 2 sec timer mode SR is automaticly turned off"

SO the trick is to hang a bottle of water under the tripod to absorb any virbations.

I also set back still and turn my head sio I don't breathe on the camera as well.
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theshadowes said:
As Mike has aready said " In 2 sec timer mode SR is automaticly
turned off"
SO the trick is to hang a bottle of water under the tripod to absorb
any virbations.
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I don't think I'd be too keen to hang a bottle of water under my tripod, especially in any kind of breeze, it could introduce its own destabilizing forces as the water slops about.

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Rob

 
distudio said:
henryimages said:
I know it is not recommended to use SR with a tripod. Can any harm be
done when using SR with a monopod? I am guessing there is enough
motion with a monopod to make this less of a concern.
Thanks, Brent
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Theoretically SR should work best on a mono-pod since the free
movements are effectively limited to the pitch and yaw for which the
camera can compensate and they are also damped somewhat as the pole
is grounded.
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Rob - Wouldn't the compensation be for pitch and roll?

I'm an old and shaky guy and am seldom without my monopod. With SR ON and with a monopod I can get sharp pix with surprisingly low shutter speeds. When I sit down with my elbows on my knees, with a monopod and SR ON I have pretty good luck with shots that normally require a tripod (for me).

Regards - John
 
John Wales said:
Rob - Wouldn't the compensation be for pitch and roll?
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No, there is no roll compensation (rotation about the axis of the lens) from what I understand of the system, nor would it be a problem whilst the camera was mono pod mounted unless the assembly was tilted sidewards (which would require roll compensation). The SR should compensate adequately for gentle rotation about the vertical axis (yaw) and pitching forward and back.
John Wales255927 said:
I'm an old and shaky guy and am seldom without my monopod. With SR
ON and with a monopod I can get sharp pix with surprisingly low
shutter speeds. When I sit down with my elbows on my knees, with a
monopod and SR ON I have pretty good luck with shots that normally
require a tripod (for me).
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Not surprising and good to hear, I'm glad that it's working for you. I really haven't had great cause to use my mono-pod in conjunction with my K10D to this point so I haven't yet had any practical experience.

Cheers,

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Rob

 
tc333 said:
SR and tripod as well as timer all work well together for me :)
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The 2 sec timer turns off the SR.

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Rob if the breeze is strong enough to move a bottle what is it going to to do to a heavy lens sitting on the end of a tripod?? Maybe its not the best time to take the shot.

I use to use a small sand bag but I find that a clear PET bottle I can see any virbration that has made it to the top of the tripod.

Not to mention who wants carry a brick on a hike and at least you can drink the scotch on the way back to the car.

"Did I say Scotch officer I ment weak tea."
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theshadowes said:
Rob if the breeze is strong enough to move a bottle what is it going
to to do to a heavy lens sitting on the end of a tripod?? Maybe its
not the best time to take the shot.

I use to use a small sand bag but I find that a clear PET bottle I
can see any virbration that has made it to the top of the tripod.

Not to mention who wants carry a brick on a hike and at least you
can drink the scotch on the way back to the car.
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Manfrotto have a little triangular material pouch (166 UTILITY APRON) which attaches to the tripod legs in which you can place a rock or photo kit your lunch or any other weighty things, it provides far superior grounding to hanging something from the centre column from my experience.

If I'm using a heavy lens then I use a heavy tripod (058B/229 Pro), a breeze is of little consequence in that case. For anything up to 200mm I find a tripod the size and weight of a Manfrotto 055 sufficient in most all cases.

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Rob

 
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