I seem to have a problem with my camera/ 14-54 lens, none of my pictures seem sharp/in focus, how can I test for this to be sure? I have tried taking pictures at different aperture settings and at different focal lengths, but they all seem out.
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E1 Problem, help please.
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rayk
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UK-Kev, can you post again with a little bit more information, please? I'm sure the experts here, and even amatuers like me, would love to help you, but we probably need to know a few more things. Did this just happen? Was it working ok, and then suddenly change? Have you got another lens, and if so, is it working ok with that lens? Has the camera had any kind of shock? Is the lens attached all the way until it clicks? (I'm sure it is, but worth checking). Have you changed the sharpness setting in the camera?
I'm sure you have tried or considered all these things, but some more info will help the problem solvers among us talk to you.
You could try taking the outfit to a store, if that is possible, and try a series of tests swapping their display body and lens alternately with yours, and see if you can isolate a faulty component.
Thats about the only suggestions I can make. Sorry, and I hope you sort it soon, and get back to some more good image making.
Ray Kinnane
Saga-shi, Japan
I'm sure you have tried or considered all these things, but some more info will help the problem solvers among us talk to you.
You could try taking the outfit to a store, if that is possible, and try a series of tests swapping their display body and lens alternately with yours, and see if you can isolate a faulty component.
Thats about the only suggestions I can make. Sorry, and I hope you sort it soon, and get back to some more good image making.
Ray Kinnane
Saga-shi, Japan
Bill Wallace
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Kev,
Post a couple of images. Will the camera focus manually, if so when you switch to autofocus does the focus change?
Hard to determine without images. I will be unavailable for a while but I'm sure someone will check in shortly...
Bill
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Bill Wallace
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Post a couple of images. Will the camera focus manually, if so when you switch to autofocus does the focus change?
Hard to determine without images. I will be unavailable for a while but I'm sure someone will check in shortly...
Bill
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Bill Wallace
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Thanks I will try to give some more info, I only have the one lens, it seems to be since I did the firmware upgrade? not sure though.
http://www.pbase.com/image/30185383
http://www.pbase.com/image/30185630
http://www.pbase.com/image/30185383
http://www.pbase.com/image/30185630
rayk
Veteran Member
The formware upgrade will add extra levels to the sharpness setting. But I am not sure if the sharpness settings are set back to zero by default when you do the firmware upgrade. I have followed the advice of most people on this forum and set my sharpness to +3 on the new scale (-5 to +5). Where are your settings now, and where were they pre-upgrade?
I took the liberty of downloading the original size image on pbase. It sharpens ok in unsharp mask in Photoshop. I am no expert in this area though. But it does look like a sharpness setting problem, rather than a lens problem. My feeling is that if it was a lens problem, it would be much more noticeable?
What happens when you adjuxt the sharpness settings to different levels? Perhaps try them all and see.
Sorry, probably not much help here.
Ray Kinnane
Saga-shi, Japan
I took the liberty of downloading the original size image on pbase. It sharpens ok in unsharp mask in Photoshop. I am no expert in this area though. But it does look like a sharpness setting problem, rather than a lens problem. My feeling is that if it was a lens problem, it would be much more noticeable?
What happens when you adjuxt the sharpness settings to different levels? Perhaps try them all and see.
Sorry, probably not much help here.
Ray Kinnane
Saga-shi, Japan
Kevin
I wonder if there are some 14-54mm lenses that are not taking the firmware upgrade properly. My original 14-54mm lens was also displaying softness and lack of sharp focus and I swapped it for another and it seems fine now (I will probably wish I hadn't said that!).
I think the best you could do is get to a dealer and try another lens. The obstacle to overcome is that the lens will need to be at version 1.1 to see if it is working fine for you.
Simon
I wonder if there are some 14-54mm lenses that are not taking the firmware upgrade properly. My original 14-54mm lens was also displaying softness and lack of sharp focus and I swapped it for another and it seems fine now (I will probably wish I hadn't said that!).
I think the best you could do is get to a dealer and try another lens. The obstacle to overcome is that the lens will need to be at version 1.1 to see if it is working fine for you.
Simon
Richard Wait
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When looking through the viewfinder, does it focus properly? I mean does the final raw/jpg differ from the image seen in the viewfinder?
Regards - Richard
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R Stacy
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Have you tried printing?
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I have spoken to Olympus, and they have requested pictures, so it will be interesting to here what they say, my monitor is fine, I see other peoples pictures posted on here and they are pin sharp, with good depth of field, yet mine are all soft, other people have commented on it where I have posted pictures.
Remember, most people they use PS for sharpen their photos....
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=9101021
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=9169961
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=9101021
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=9169961
ajwh
Leading Member
Do MOST people use PS to sharpen their photos?
One of the joys of the E-1 for me is that the output doen't need processing.
Andrew
One of the joys of the E-1 for me is that the output doen't need processing.
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Agnes Wozniak
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I know this may sound a bit silly, but are you sure you have good amount of light?.
My friend was complaining (also has e-1) about same thing, but when I saw his images, you could see that there was not much light.
Make sure when you take photos (on M setup) that your time is not smaller than 1/60, usually this is the safe setup, this way you can be sure your images will be sharp.
Unless it is something different..
My friend was complaining (also has e-1) about same thing, but when I saw his images, you could see that there was not much light.
Make sure when you take photos (on M setup) that your time is not smaller than 1/60, usually this is the safe setup, this way you can be sure your images will be sharp.
Unless it is something different..
Kenneth Rose
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If you're shooting RAW they will seem soft until they're sharpened in post processing.
Agnes Wozniak
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Very true.
Also remember that if you are looking on the photo in 33% of size, it always looks blurry.
Best is to view photo at 100%, or even better - print one.
Please also remember, if you ever resize picture to smaller size, use sharpening tool
Resizing takes away a bit of sharpness.
Also remember that if you are looking on the photo in 33% of size, it always looks blurry.
Best is to view photo at 100%, or even better - print one.
Please also remember, if you ever resize picture to smaller size, use sharpening tool
Resizing takes away a bit of sharpness.
Hi Agnes,
You definitely want to view always at 100% in PS to judge sharpening, but do NOT base sharpness judgements on prints.
Also, everyone should be aware that focus problems on the E-1 are possible. My new E-1 would not autofocus properly when I got it. It was off the same amount every time with each lens. I sent it back to Oly and they replaced it (next day service!) and that solved it nicely.
Rick.
You definitely want to view always at 100% in PS to judge sharpening, but do NOT base sharpness judgements on prints.
Also, everyone should be aware that focus problems on the E-1 are possible. My new E-1 would not autofocus properly when I got it. It was off the same amount every time with each lens. I sent it back to Oly and they replaced it (next day service!) and that solved it nicely.
Rick.
Please also remember, if you ever resize picture to smaller size,
use sharpening tool
Resizing takes away a bit of sharpness.
Jono Slack
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HI Kev
I've looked at the two shots you've posted.
The flowers are at f5 at 45mm - you'll have a very shallow depth of field here, and it looks to me like some parts of some flowers are pretty sharp (which is what you'd expect).
The second shot (I used to live in a house like that in Stamford Hill) is more problematic - it looks like you've done something strange to it though - surely the sky wasn't that colour? I would have thought that the depth of field would be enough, but on this one as well, you have a huge range of distance, and it looks to me that it is in focus around the brown fence, but soft in the near foreground and the background.
What do you have your sharpening set at?
Kind Regards
Jono Slack
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I've looked at the two shots you've posted.
The flowers are at f5 at 45mm - you'll have a very shallow depth of field here, and it looks to me like some parts of some flowers are pretty sharp (which is what you'd expect).
The second shot (I used to live in a house like that in Stamford Hill) is more problematic - it looks like you've done something strange to it though - surely the sky wasn't that colour? I would have thought that the depth of field would be enough, but on this one as well, you have a huge range of distance, and it looks to me that it is in focus around the brown fence, but soft in the near foreground and the background.
What do you have your sharpening set at?
Kind Regards
Jono Slack
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Hi Jono, the sky really was like that, the picture is as it was taken with no modification of any sort, can't you see that the houses on the right are just not right, I have tried my sharpness at all levels but mostly at 3 as is common with this forum, and recomended by Olympus, as for the flowers the yellow flower is the same hight as the others, so why is it out of focus?
Jono Slack
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HI Kev
Well, I've had another look, and there are parts all over the flower shot which ARE sharp (leaves on right hand side etc.) yellows are always tricky, and I wonder whether the apparent lack of sharpness is partly due to a lack of contrast.
The buildings - I stick to my point - the sky CAN'T have been that colour (it never is!) I'm not sure if depth of field is the issue here.
Whatever - if you want to find out if the lens is sharp or not you would be much better to take some shots of stuff on the same focal plane in good light (like a nice boring brick wall) and have another look.
I'm not definitely saying it IS okay, but I'm not sure that you can tell from either of those shots.
kind regards
jono slack
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Well, I've had another look, and there are parts all over the flower shot which ARE sharp (leaves on right hand side etc.) yellows are always tricky, and I wonder whether the apparent lack of sharpness is partly due to a lack of contrast.
The buildings - I stick to my point - the sky CAN'T have been that colour (it never is!) I'm not sure if depth of field is the issue here.
Whatever - if you want to find out if the lens is sharp or not you would be much better to take some shots of stuff on the same focal plane in good light (like a nice boring brick wall) and have another look.
I'm not definitely saying it IS okay, but I'm not sure that you can tell from either of those shots.
kind regards
jono slack
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Agnes Wozniak
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I had a look to, and I don't see a real problem.
Are those photos original size, or you have made them smaller for the website ? (if you did resize image to smaller, you lose sharpens, so you only have to remember to add sharpness when resizing).
Are those photos original size, or you have made them smaller for the website ? (if you did resize image to smaller, you lose sharpens, so you only have to remember to add sharpness when resizing).
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