Quick Studio Portrait with D-70 and studio strobes.

Well first you have a problem with Francophone and know Canadian?
Be careful Racism won't be tolerate in this forum!!!
Mitch
phototech,

I understand your point, and as I said in my post, you may think
that each one of us is responsible for their own decisions.
However, I do not agree with the point that others who have
influence have no responsibility, and therefore respectfully
disagree with your comment. Regardless, thanks for posting.

Mitch
Those who have influence as you said... didn't ask for it... Yves
to name him is sharing what he know... without asking for nothing
in return. I do listen to what he says... He gave me good advice,
tricks and more... I've tried lot of things he showed me some works
and others didn't... For those tricks that didn't work for me I
would never say that he is RESPONSIBLE for my failure!

Everyone is free to listen to anybody. But no one must accuse
others for bad choice. Yves never told anyone to do as he says...
He share is experience that worked for him... If it doesn't for you
well I'm sorry but that isn't my problem or Yves problem or anyone
else on earth other them the person that have that problem. Don't
forget something important here... Yves don't receive a penny for
the information that he share... If he did it would probably be
different but he don't!
--
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Martin B.
 
not racism, I HATE racism, Just a fact, Canadians defend Canadians. Merde, aint that true??

Mitch
Mitch
phototech,

I understand your point, and as I said in my post, you may think
that each one of us is responsible for their own decisions.
However, I do not agree with the point that others who have
influence have no responsibility, and therefore respectfully
disagree with your comment. Regardless, thanks for posting.

Mitch
Those who have influence as you said... didn't ask for it... Yves
to name him is sharing what he know... without asking for nothing
in return. I do listen to what he says... He gave me good advice,
tricks and more... I've tried lot of things he showed me some works
and others didn't... For those tricks that didn't work for me I
would never say that he is RESPONSIBLE for my failure!

Everyone is free to listen to anybody. But no one must accuse
others for bad choice. Yves never told anyone to do as he says...
He share is experience that worked for him... If it doesn't for you
well I'm sorry but that isn't my problem or Yves problem or anyone
else on earth other them the person that have that problem. Don't
forget something important here... Yves don't receive a penny for
the information that he share... If he did it would probably be
different but he don't!
--
Phototech
Martin B.
 
Why don't you make yourself and everybody else a favour and get out of this forum and never return to it! This isn't the place to BASH on others works! This is a friendly place to exchange technical knowledge and ideas. This isn't a CRITIC FORUM... You can give your opinion in a constructive way without being so sarcastic and unpleasant.
Nice picture.

However, for a professional photgrapher and a person who says he
teaches photography:

a. bad framing, no esthetic reason to crop her right arm and leave
a dead space on her left side (right side for viewers)

b. white balance is off (as suggested by Victor and Dan), the
shooter who comments on Pringles and ExpoDisks should have done
better, or at least fix it in postprocessing..

c. For a studio shot where meticulous attention to detail is
warranted, the shooter should have noticed that the bra straps and
the left side of the bra under current lighting conditions are less
than adequate. Get her to wear a strapless bra or not a bra at all.
Don't worry if you are a conservative North American, the nipples
won't show !

d. Double flash reflections in her eyes are VERY distracting and a
no no for studio photography. There is no technical reason
whatsoever to have 2 front sources in such a simple shot,

e. Don't make your subjects stand with an angle to the background
as you did here. The background on her right side is different than
the background on her left side, both in terms of focus and
illumination. This is not pleasing for a studio shot.

To comment on Mr Clark Hampton's question, "quick portrait"
probably refers to a "quicke" where the shooter does not want to be
criticized for details. "Quick because I did not really have time
to post it ... :-)" is meaningless, don't post it then, there are
dozens of people who see you as a Photo God here, feel some
responsibility.

Mitch
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Martin B.
 
Nope I would do the same for anyone who deserve it.
Mitch
Mitch
phototech,

I understand your point, and as I said in my post, you may think
that each one of us is responsible for their own decisions.
However, I do not agree with the point that others who have
influence have no responsibility, and therefore respectfully
disagree with your comment. Regardless, thanks for posting.

Mitch
Those who have influence as you said... didn't ask for it... Yves
to name him is sharing what he know... without asking for nothing
in return. I do listen to what he says... He gave me good advice,
tricks and more... I've tried lot of things he showed me some works
and others didn't... For those tricks that didn't work for me I
would never say that he is RESPONSIBLE for my failure!

Everyone is free to listen to anybody. But no one must accuse
others for bad choice. Yves never told anyone to do as he says...
He share is experience that worked for him... If it doesn't for you
well I'm sorry but that isn't my problem or Yves problem or anyone
else on earth other them the person that have that problem. Don't
forget something important here... Yves don't receive a penny for
the information that he share... If he did it would probably be
different but he don't!
--
Phototech
Martin B.
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Phototech
Martin B.
 
Why don't you make yourself and everybody else a favour and get out
of this forum and never return to it!
You make yourself and your "fantastic, amazing" BS a favor and disappear. You and your alike do not criticize anything. just praise your fellow Canadians.

This isn't the place to BASH
on others works!
I am not bashing. Read my post, I asked critical questions.

This is a friendly place to exchange technical
knowledge and ideas.
"friendly" means lick each other with no valuable inout right?

This isn't a CRITIC FORUM...

This is a critiquer forum
You can give your
opinion in a constructive way without being so sarcastic and
unpleasant.
I give my opinion the way I see adequate, it is not your business to criticize my methodology, just post regarding the facts, if you don't agree with a specific comment
 
good for you, good boy !\\
Mitch
Mitch
phototech,

I understand your point, and as I said in my post, you may think
that each one of us is responsible for their own decisions.
However, I do not agree with the point that others who have
influence have no responsibility, and therefore respectfully
disagree with your comment. Regardless, thanks for posting.

Mitch
Those who have influence as you said... didn't ask for it... Yves
to name him is sharing what he know... without asking for nothing
in return. I do listen to what he says... He gave me good advice,
tricks and more... I've tried lot of things he showed me some works
and others didn't... For those tricks that didn't work for me I
would never say that he is RESPONSIBLE for my failure!

Everyone is free to listen to anybody. But no one must accuse
others for bad choice. Yves never told anyone to do as he says...
He share is experience that worked for him... If it doesn't for you
well I'm sorry but that isn't my problem or Yves problem or anyone
else on earth other them the person that have that problem. Don't
forget something important here... Yves don't receive a penny for
the information that he share... If he did it would probably be
different but he don't!
--
Phototech
Martin B.
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Phototech
Martin B.
 
It seems like you have a major problem with people from different country then yours. I told you this wont be tolerate here!
my shots to learn from me. [NB:you have already seen and commented
positively on my shots, if that makes you feel better].
Mitch: I thought you said you were new here?? True sign of a coward
to switch screen names when the heat is on.. who will you be
tomorrow??

Matt
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Martin B.
 
hé tête de merde, nope I am from the US, wrong once again, go figure?> LOL :-) Just because I reside in Canada, and happen to know a couple of languages makes me a Canadian? Not that would be a bad thing, love it up here! Try to think outside of the box, know it might be hard, but do try.

kr
Mitch
Mitch
phototech,

I understand your point, and as I said in my post, you may think
that each one of us is responsible for their own decisions.
However, I do not agree with the point that others who have
influence have no responsibility, and therefore respectfully
disagree with your comment. Regardless, thanks for posting.

Mitch
Those who have influence as you said... didn't ask for it... Yves
to name him is sharing what he know... without asking for nothing
in return. I do listen to what he says... He gave me good advice,
tricks and more... I've tried lot of things he showed me some works
and others didn't... For those tricks that didn't work for me I
would never say that he is RESPONSIBLE for my failure!

Everyone is free to listen to anybody. But no one must accuse
others for bad choice. Yves never told anyone to do as he says...
He share is experience that worked for him... If it doesn't for you
well I'm sorry but that isn't my problem or Yves problem or anyone
else on earth other them the person that have that problem. Don't
forget something important here... Yves don't receive a penny for
the information that he share... If he did it would probably be
different but he don't!
--
Phototech
Martin B.
--
Phototech
Martin B.
 
It would'Ve been very likely and possible to collect about 50 "wow! Great shot!" in about 1 hour if "Critic" didn't speak his heart out.

I also believe "critic" is tired of this country house-like forum sometimes...

What I personnaly can't understand and I scratch my head very often because of it is: Some people actually don't bother criticising a great image someone posts and asks for while some others will only say "[email protected] shot" and they will easily collect 75 posts for a so-so shot.

Bah, I'm not here to make friends. I actually believe I'm a honnest and impartial user and I like this forum because I learn and I can teach a few things to others... whichever comes first, if it come at all. But I learn.This is great. But it's also a country-club, let's face it.In order that I become a "respected photographer" I'll have to lose about 5 hours a day in here... This is not my goal.

At last, I find it horrible when I read that some won't post in the D70 forum because their post will vanish within 3 hours... Come on guys: are you here to learn and share or are you in for fame? I also find it horrible when some people track other's posts (of someone who is hated) and then come up with his old threads: Totally childish... Like one guy posting another guy's phone number.

Anyways, I don't want to be a part of the county-club and I enjoy reading threads which are informative, critics or whatever else as long as it makes me grow. And I grow by simply giving my grain of salt every day. Not bad...
 
I have only been here a few weeks and this thread is starting to make me think you might be right Neijic....In any case, nice post that should close this thread.
Eric
It would'Ve been very likely and possible to collect about 50 "wow!
Great shot!" in about 1 hour if "Critic" didn't speak his heart out.

I also believe "critic" is tired of this country house-like forum
sometimes...

What I personnaly can't understand and I scratch my head very often
because of it is: Some people actually don't bother criticising a
great image someone posts and asks for while some others will only
say "[email protected] shot" and they will easily collect 75 posts for a
so-so shot.

Bah, I'm not here to make friends. I actually believe I'm a
honnest and impartial user and I like this forum because I learn
and I can teach a few things to others... whichever comes first, if
it come at all. But I learn.This is great. But it's also a
country-club, let's face it.In order that I become a "respected
photographer" I'll have to lose about 5 hours a day in here... This
is not my goal.

At last, I find it horrible when I read that some won't post in the
D70 forum because their post will vanish within 3 hours... Come on
guys: are you here to learn and share or are you in for fame? I
also find it horrible when some people track other's posts (of
someone who is hated) and then come up with his old threads:
Totally childish... Like one guy posting another guy's phone number.

Anyways, I don't want to be a part of the county-club and I enjoy
reading threads which are informative, critics or whatever else as
long as it makes me grow. And I grow by simply giving my grain of
salt every day. Not bad...
 
Actually this is just the light test shot, more to come tonite ...



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Wow... that was an awful lot to wade through.... and all over a, light test..
I hope this stuff cleans off with my morning shower....
davidbogdan
 
Could have fooled me... many of your posts had no value to this forum, and were only posted to antagonize.
I give my opinion the way, I just post regarding the facts, if you
don't agree with a specific comment
Oh, you mean like the "fact" the RN's are "lickers"

You know, the truth is that you are probably a sad man, somebody we all should take time to feel sorry for. I cant help but to imagine you alternating between this forum and some porn site, "licking" yourself all the while.
Matt
 
Yves, what made you decide to use the 60mm micro for this shoot. Do you use it often for portraits? Very sharp and a great lens for shots of those gifted with beautiful eyes.

I admire your work and have learned much from your postings. Keep it up.

Mike
Yves P. wrote:
 
There are two lenses I like very much for portraits (primes) and one zoom as well (Nikon 70-200 VR outside though).

Depending on the size of the studio (portable studio) and the crop needed for the shots, I will pick either a 60mm 2.8 or a 85mm 1.8 or 1.4 (prefer a 1.4). I don't own the 85mm but have easy access to one at alltime.

The 60mm lets me shoot full body shots in a smaller area hence the reason I use it most of the time. It's sharpness is almost too much and many times I do blurring layer to soften the skin a bit (not performed on these shots here, they are out of the camera beside crop).

I find the contrast and the Bokeh to be very nice on the 60mm but better bokeh on the 85 1.4 in general.

The 60mm is almost too sharp for this king of work though.
I admire your work and have learned much from your postings. Keep
it up.

Mike
Yves P. wrote:
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I think it is fine to offer criticism of the photos posted, and I think all of the posters welcome it. But why slam the photographer? I agreed with several of the points made by critic, but I thought it was really cheap of critic too preface each of the comments regarding the photogragh with personal slam of the photographer. That is where his criticism got tarnished with fairly obvious jealousy, and that is where it got out of line.

-Mark
 
Wow, I haven't seen a thread with this much hooey in quite a while (almost as bad as the Canon vs Nikon troll fights).

Yves,
Keep posting. I'll keep looking. I truly enjoy what you share.

And for the record, I kinda liked the first image; there was a genuine feeling to it that I often find missing in portraits.

Doug
Actually this is just the light test shot, more to come tonite ...



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You keep using that word; I do not think it means what you think it
means -- Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
 
The last Q & A re: the 60 macro for portrait was so helpful to me. Quite something to have another simple bit of learning.

I'm accomplished in other areas but but despite my D2H and 5 lenses, I have everything to learn about photgraphy.

But, I'm at a loss, and I have to say something--in supoport of what is precious here.

This site has been a joy for me, and to have Thom occasionally, Ron Reznick more often, and Yves almost daily teach us, is without parallel in this self-seeking, profit oriented age. (Thanks also to Phil's hard work.)

Yves, I surmise sees us--or at least people like me--waiting for his posts--puzzles sometimes, exquisite mind blowing shots. AND, I can't recall unconstrucive critism from him. Rather, he has been non-judgemental, gently prodding and teaching--recall the horizontal rock climber, or the color/B/W, sepia choice of his daughter at the start of the path.

I can't imagine why a busy pro like Yves would spend so many hours each week to help strangers. Who else puts up a photo puzzle, waits for 100 replies, and kindly reveals the answer? More to the point, who else can find a photo question so tantalizing that so many would respond? (Yes, perhaps 2-3 other great pros/teachers.)

Indeed, the core of the forum, for a prosumer like me with everything to learn, DEPENDS on Yves and some others.

So to have all of us learners distracted by "licking", and attacking RN's in ICU's, and gratuitous comments about language or country of origin is tough. And saddening.

And and after 3.5 decades of science, healing, and instructing--I'm sure that the ambiance/setting that "frames" this forum correlates directly with it's true purpose--to learn in a kindly setting.

I fervently hope that this post doesn't contribute to anything negative--but just the personal view of how I learn best.

Respectfully,
dzl
Depending on the size of the studio (portable studio) and the crop
needed for the shots, I will pick either a 60mm 2.8 or a 85mm 1.8
or 1.4 (prefer a 1.4). I don't own the 85mm but have easy access to
one at alltime.

The 60mm lets me shoot full body shots in a smaller area hence the
reason I use it most of the time. It's sharpness is almost too much
and many times I do blurring layer to soften the skin a bit (not
performed on these shots here, they are out of the camera beside
crop).

I find the contrast and the Bokeh to be very nice on the 60mm but
better bokeh on the 85 1.4 in general.

The 60mm is almost too sharp for this king of work though.
I admire your work and have learned much from your postings. Keep
it up.

Mike
Yves P. wrote:
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Hi Yves,

Thanks for posting your three shots. I have learned something from the many comments of your friends and detractors. I love the color saturation, the sharp focus and the models that you used.

There is a saying that might be appropriate for you at this point: Illigitimus Carborundum

I don't know how that translates to French but just know that I appreciate your postings and comments over the months I have been active on the forum.

Gordon
 

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