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Hallo, I'll ask you something stupid, but I have no experience.I would like to buy a camera, but I don't know wich one.I have been looking Fuji FPS5000 and olympus C760, but I'm not shure wich is better.I know, I want a good camera with a good optical zoom, long battery life and really good quality of the pictures.What is your advice:digital or not.And to be in the fuji S5000 price range.
Thank you in advance!
Cheers!
 
Hallo, I'll ask you something stupid, but I have no experience.I
would like to buy a camera, but I don't know wich one.I have been
looking Fuji FPS5000 and olympus C760, but I'm not shure wich is
better.I know, I want a good camera with a good optical zoom, long
battery life and really good quality of the pictures.What is your
advice:digital or not.And to be in the fuji S5000 price range.
Thank you in advance!
Cheers!
Try using http://www.imaging-resource.com/WB/WB.HTM to get some ideas.

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My better 'attempts'.
 
Hallo, I'll ask you something stupid, but I have no experience.I
would like to buy a camera, but I don't know wich one.I have been
looking Fuji FPS5000 and olympus C760, but I'm not shure wich is
better.I know, I want a good camera with a good optical zoom, long
battery life and really good quality of the pictures.What is your
advice:digital or not.And to be in the fuji S5000 price range.
Thank you in advance!
Cheers!
Hi,

The two cameras you have mentioned are a little OTT for a beginner, surely? Or have you no experience of digital but lots of experience of film?

In your shoes, assuming you've no experience of digital or film, I'd go for a simple point & shoot (P&S) to dip my toe in the water so to speak. Going for an enthusiasts camera as you have could well be very off-putting.

BTW, those 10x zooms are a little specialised. For a P&S you need only about 35 to 90, which is x2½. Most P&S cameras manage decent battery life. My worst one takes 2 AA's and lasts a fortnight or so from charge to re-charge. I take about 50 or more pictures in that time. Not really a problem.

Regards, David
 
oK, I have no experiense in photography at all, but I really want to buy a good staff and to do a decent pictures.I know that I need to learn something before, but I want to take over that as soon as is possible. I don't want a biginers camera, with inferior quality of the pics.I'm craving to do pics in the nature-animals, spectacular views!!!!!But I'm lost, which is better for me digital or film camera?
Please give me a hand with that!
Best regards!
 
oK, I have no experiense in photography at all, but I really want
to buy a good staff and to do a decent pictures.
Understandable: but I would say that good pictures come from having an eye for a picture and the luck to get it. Not much to do with the camera but a lot to do with your eyes and hands. Most "beginners" cameras are more than adequate and have good lenses. My serious cameras, film & digital cost a vast amount more than my not so serious cameras. Say 10 or 15 times as much. I have taken pictures that pleased on both and often cannot tell which one was used, when I look at the pictures on the wall or on the screen. All it takes is a good lens and a little bit of thought backed up by experience of the camera and the subject. In other words, you have to know what they do and when to jump in an over ride them.
I know that I need
to learn something before, but I want to take over that as soon as
is possible. I don't want a biginers camera, with inferior quality
of the pics.
Be carefull, the learning bit takes years - luckily you can move forward a bit faster with digital as you can sit down afterwards and look at them and analise the mistakes and go out and correct them within minutes of taking the picture. Do it a few times and learn is the best way and is easier with digital.
I'm craving to do pics in the nature-animals,
This is a very specialised subject. I needs a top of the range camera and long focus lens. And a lot of patience. (Meaning spend two weeks and get three photographs sometimes.) Or pay and do it from a LandRover with someone driving you up to some tired and bored animals.
spectacular views!!!!!
Easy with digital but best done as panoramas. Again, P&S cameras will do this and lots of software exists to stitch the pictures together. And you need a tripod and a spirit level... Or a lot of experience and handheld but you have to work hard to get it right without a tripod.
But I'm lost, which is better for me digital
or film camera?
Digital, perhaps, say around 5 megapixels for serious work and around 3 megapixels for carrying around with you. But you'd be best advised to start with the 3 megapixel one to carry around with you. I'd go for the Olympus Stylus 300 (or µ 300 as it is known in my part of the world) and then an Olympus E-1 and a serious long lens for the nature stuff - the equivalent of 400 to 1,000 mm in 35 mm film cameras. That will cost you a fortune, btw, especially when you add in the cost of a good tripod, the software and media cards, etc...
Please give me a hand with that!
Well, I've tried but if I were you I wouldn't jump in too deep at first.
Best regards!
Regards, David
 
Thank you,
for this briliant answer!
Really helpfull!
Could you please tell me what does tripod mean, cause I do not know?
Are you from UK?CAuse I live in UK now.

If I go for mju 300, shall I be able to do a decent "panoramas" , couse it will takes a long time, before I go for E1 :))The problem is, that I'm not sure, will I be able to buy other camera soon.This is the reason to "jump so deep" :))
Best Regards!
Antoni
 
Antey wrote:
Could you please tell me what does tripod mean,
cause I do not know?
Stupid question, I'm sorry, but it was a new word for me.
Regards!
It's a three legged stand that holds your camera in place for long exposures, panoramas or times when you want to use the remote (maybe to get yourself in the shot)

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The Digital Junkie! (w/an Oly C-5060 & FL-40)

 
Hi,

I see the others have answered your question about the tripod: thanks Theresa :-)

If you are in the UK - like me - then look at this web site;-

http://www.digitaldepot.co.uk/

Look at the Olympus C4000Z which is £199 and a includes a 128 card. This is a bargain and could be ideal for you. It's a serious camera at one level (meaning you can do almost anything with it because you have full control) and you can put it on the "P" setting and it will act like a point and shoot. Not as good looking as the µ 300 and 400 but a serious camera. Then spend some money on a book on photography. You'll find a lot of advice and tutorials on the web. Good luck.

Regards, David
 
Thank you very much!
Now I'm going to buy my camera and to do my very first steps in photography!
best regards!
 
Hello again,

I do not want you to get bored, but I want to ask something about C4000z:is it possible to use a teleconvertor or additional lenses with it, is it possible to add some upgrades afterwards?

After your advice, I decided to go for that camera, is there something better for that money?
Cheers!
 
And one question more:what do you think about Canon powershot A75 it is in the same price range as C4000z?
Cheers
 
And one question more:what do you think about Canon powershot A75
it is in the same price range as C4000z?
Cheers
I don't know really. BTW, have you looked at the Canon A80?

As for add on lenses: I think they are a PITA. Easy to deal with indoors with a table to put things (lens caps etc) on but try messing around with them in a street or a muddy field and you'll soon learn the famous and popular technique of leaving them at home (or else buy two cameras and fix the add on to one permenently... ).

Regards, David
 
HI, Yes I have seen it but my dilema is about the zoom, should I sacrifisy a zoom for more pixels?AS I told you before, I woluld like to do panoramas and wild life shots, so after all that I have been reading, I thing I need more zoom, but iin this price range, I can not find something decent.For C4000z -problem with a white balance, for fuji S5000 agressive compresion and it is not good camera for low light shots, so I really don't know what to do.Please tell me what to do!!!
Thank you for your priceless help!!!
Antoni
 
HI, Yes I have seen it but my dilema is about the zoom, should I
sacrifisy a zoom for more pixels?AS I told you before, I woluld
like to do panoramas and wild life shots, so after all that I have
been reading, I thing I need more zoom, but iin this price range, I
can not find something decent.For C4000z -problem with a white
balance, for fuji S5000 agressive compresion and it is not good
camera for low light shots, so I really don't know what to
do.Please tell me what to do!!!
Thank you for your priceless help!!!
Antoni
Kodak dx 6340 or 6440 ... can't go wrong there
Greenbushy dx6340
 
Hi,

Well, it's difficult since a good camera for wild life is not necessarily a good one for panoramas.

I can however tell you that, if you are serious about photography then you should think long and about cameras with very little compression. For example, a 5 mp camera should produce a file of about 3¾ to 4 MB at a low compression (about 1:2·7). The problem is that once the picture is compressed in the camera (basically by abandoning a lot of detail) you'll never get it back. Not what you want with landscapes or wild life. In fact I can think of several cameras with oly 2 mpixels output that people swear by and I saw a thread about one sometime this morning. I'll come back and posta link to it if I find it again.

Regards, David
 
Hi,

Well, it's difficult since a good camera for wild life is not
necessarily a good one for panoramas.

I can however tell you that, if you are serious about photography
then you should think long and about cameras with very little
compression. For example, a 5 mp camera should produce a file of
about 3¾ to 4 MB at a low compression (about 1:2·7). The problem is
that once the picture is compressed in the camera (basically by
abandoning a lot of detail) you'll never get it back. Not what you
want with landscapes or wild life. In fact I can think of several
cameras with oly 2 mpixels output that people swear by and I saw a
thread about one sometime this morning. I'll come back and posta
link to it if I find it again.

Regards, David
And here it is:-

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1002&message=8529790

I remembered that I can hit f11 and then use Ctrl+H to get it...
 
10x zooms are not too specialized for a beginner. The amount of zoom you need depends not on your photgraphic ability but on what you will be using it for. For example if you are on a safari and want to shoot the lions from afar you will need a large zoom lens, likewise if you want to take pictures of people or things without others being aware you are taking them. On the other hand if you are doing arty still lifes you would not need a zoom lens. The person doing arty photography might be doing more complex photography but need less zoom.

BTW how much are the Fuji FPS5000 and olympus C760? Antey mentioned something in the Fuji FPS5000 price range but did not say how much it costs. I was wondering about the Fujifilm A210 and the HP Photosmart 812, these cameras both have optical zoom and Ive been told good quality pictures (Ive not actually seen any pictures from any of these cameras)
Hallo, I'll ask you something stupid, but I have no experience.I
would like to buy a camera, but I don't know wich one.I have been
looking Fuji FPS5000 and olympus C760, but I'm not shure wich is
better.I know, I want a good camera with a good optical zoom, long
battery life and really good quality of the pictures.What is your
advice:digital or not.And to be in the fuji S5000 price range.
Thank you in advance!
Cheers!
BTW, those 10x zooms are a little specialised. For a P&S you need
only about 35 to 90, which is x2½. Most P&S cameras manage decent
battery life. My worst one takes 2 AA's and lasts a fortnight or so
from charge to re-charge. I take about 50 or more pictures in that
time. Not really a problem.

Regards, David
 
If you want to do wild life you definitely need a lot of zoom, unless your planning on petting them or something. As for megipixels Ive been told (though I dont personally know) that megipixel is only important if you want large pictures. Are you interested in photos to be framed or published, that might effect how much megipixel you need. Also unless your doing photo as art the contents of the picture are what is most important.

What are white balance and compression? How important are they and what do they effect?
HI, Yes I have seen it but my dilema is about the zoom, should I
sacrifisy a zoom for more pixels?AS I told you before, I woluld
like to do panoramas and wild life shots, so after all that I have
been reading, I thing I need more zoom, but iin this price range, I
can not find something decent.For C4000z -problem with a white
balance, for fuji S5000 agressive compresion and it is not good
camera for low light shots, so I really don't know what to
do.Please tell me what to do!!!
Thank you for your priceless help!!!
Antoni
 
10x zooms are not too specialized for a beginner. The amount of
zoom you need depends not on your photgraphic ability but on what
you will be using it for. For example if you are on a safari and
want to shoot the lions from afar you will need a large zoom lens,
likewise if you want to take pictures of people or things without
others being aware you are taking them ...
Snip, snip, snip!

Well, what can I say? Except that taking pictures of lions in their normal surroundings in not an everyday thing for me, nor for most people.

So by my logic it a specialised subject. Something you'd buy a camera for and not something to get from an everyday camera.

Regards, David
 

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