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EOS-1D Mark II sharp, no worries here

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Matthew Smith said:
Matthew Smith said:
But based on the above crops, my 2 odd years with digital are
telling me that these will sharpen up very, very nicely.

I've got to wait until the next tax year here in Australia, before
I can buy, though.

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You don't get one good shot if the camera is not capable of it, so this means that you are now quite content that there is nothing at all wrong with the sharpness of the 1D2, is that right?

As for the macro, you know as well as I do that there are too many variables at play and macros are tricky things, so that it would be very foolish indeed to jump to any conclusions from seeing one shot.
John Harrison said:
I have always gotten excellent sharpness with my D-60 out of camera
when I nail a macro.
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I still see many portrait type shots that are really soft but I am assuming user error or sharpening at 0.

I don't think there will be an issue for me if runs around what the better shots I have seen are.
JR
 
Well, if the subject we are talking about is the sharpness of the camera, rather than an individual shot, that is hardly going to be affected by whether it is a portrait or not, and must be down to user error/whatever.

I suppose it would be just a bit nice if you could bring yourself to say, yep, this camera seems sharp to me!

Surely, surely the only conclusion possible is that there may be a bit of a learning curve with the camera to find out what suits it, but that it is plenty sharp once you know it's foibles.
John Harrison said:
I still see many portrait type shots that are really soft but I am
assuming user error or sharpening at 0.
I don't think there will be an issue for me if runs around what the
better shots I have seen are.
JR
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I suppose it seemed to many of us that you were a fairly severe critic on this matter, and also knowledgeable enough so that your concerns could not be dismissed out of hand, so that if you are happy we can all now say that the issue has effectively been put to bed - which is grand, as I can remember months and months of argument over on the 10D forum about AF issues, so it is fairly rare to lay something like this so quickly - I've never come across a new camera which doesn't have them, but they do seem remarkably few in the 1D2!
John Harrison said:
that the pics appeared adequately sharp. I will test if for myself
for my own needs when SSD come through.
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I agree... It looks like a very detailed painting from an absolute master more than it does an analog film photograph. It could be because of the +2 sharpening or maybe because it was shot in JPEG instead of RAW... The lighting doesn't appear to be that favorable (mid-day probably). That could also be a factor. I would be interested to see two of the same shot taken with and without the sharpening.
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Barry Anderson said:
Is it just me ... or is this starting to look more like a very good
drawing than a photograph ??!! ??

Barry
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Phil Askey said:
Having just started to evaluate the Mark II I'm surprised to read
questions over this camera's sharpness.. There are a few important
points to remember:

1. The image processing for the 1D series apperas to be different
(to a higher standard) than other EOS digitals, tonal transitions
are smoother, sharpening artifacts virtually non-existant.

2. An eight megapixel sensor is going to pick out any sharpness /
resolution issues with the lens and focusing. A good lens,
accurately focused and with the correct DOF is needed for 1:1 pixel
sharpness.

3. This is the most important point - The default sharpening on
the EOS-1D Mark II is a very conservative level 0 (zero), this is
the same as the EOS-1D and 1Ds. It's a much lower sharpening level
than most other digital SLR's and provides you with noise free and
sharpening artifact free images. HOWEVER if you prefer your images
sharper out of the camera just increase sharpening to around level
2.

I went out on my first shoot with the camera the other day and
before even starting created a parameter set with sharpening level
'2', I'm pretty pleased with the results.

The images below are 100% crops from some 1D Mark II JPEG images.
Lens used was the EF 28-70 mm F2.8 L.







PS. Please don't ask me when the review will be posted.

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I had a mk II form CPS service, and I took many shoots in different condition (daylight, darkness...from ISO 100 up to 3200). I agree with Phil: the 1D mk II is very conservative, but not soft. Just open the file in PS, and try with USM....

And I was surprised about noise: I think the new 1D is one of the less noisy camera on the market.

Phil, we are waiting for your (really well done, as usual) review

thanks

azetaelle

ps: after trying it, I decided to buy it
 
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