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Okay. This is my first attempt at uploading some of these photos...the first two from late yesterday taken with a 50 f/1.8 clearly exhibit the color shift. Two from this morning from 70-200VR at f/2.8 seem not to. You decide. These were not retouched, only resized to 680 pixels.

The last picture is from this beast that wandered into my yard as I was shooting and started growling at me as if he owned the joint! So I decided to shoot him :-) I did USM this one...

Craig



DSC_0017.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:30:58.9
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/4000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_0018.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:31:32
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00071.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:34:39.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/3200 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00111.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:35:44.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/4
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF

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Okay...I obviously need help with embedding...any help?

Thanks.
Craig
A> D Photogs said:
Okay. This is my first attempt at uploading some of these
photos...the first two from late yesterday taken with a 50 f/1.8
clearly exhibit the color shift. Two from this morning from
70-200VR at f/2.8 seem not to. You decide. These were not
retouched, only resized to 680 pixels.

The last picture is from this beast that wandered into my yard as I
was shooting and started growling at me as if he owned the joint!
So I decided to shoot him :-) I did USM this one...

Craig
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Sorry...try again
A> D Photogs said:
Okay. This is my first attempt at uploading some of these
photos...the first two from late yesterday taken with a 50 f/1.8
clearly exhibit the color shift. Two from this morning from
70-200VR at f/2.8 seem not to. You decide. These were not
retouched, only resized to 680 pixels.

The last picture is from this beast that wandered into my yard as I
was shooting and started growling at me as if he owned the joint!
So I decided to shoot him :-) I did USM this one...

Craig
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_0017.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:30:58.9
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/4000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_0018.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:31:32
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_00071.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:34:39.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/3200 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_00111.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:35:44.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/4
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF

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The defect is very visible on image DSC_0018.
A> D Photogs said:
Okay. This is my first attempt at uploading some of these
photos...the first two from late yesterday taken with a 50 f/1.8
clearly exhibit the color shift. Two from this morning from
70-200VR at f/2.8 seem not to. You decide. These were not
retouched, only resized to 680 pixels.

The last picture is from this beast that wandered into my yard as I
was shooting and started growling at me as if he owned the joint!
So I decided to shoot him :-) I did USM this one...

Craig



DSC_0017.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:30:58.9
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/4000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_0018.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:31:32
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00071.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:34:39.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/3200 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00111.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:35:44.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/4
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF

The Gallery can be seen here if these don't show up:
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several stops. There may be color shift, but given the exposure, it's very difficult to determine anything for sure.

Please post a correctly exposed shot at 1/4000 to 1/8000 so that we can take a look.

Regards,

Dan.
A> D Photogs said:
A> D Photogs said:
Okay. This is my first attempt at uploading some of these
photos...the first two from late yesterday taken with a 50 f/1.8
clearly exhibit the color shift. Two from this morning from
70-200VR at f/2.8 seem not to. You decide. These were not
retouched, only resized to 680 pixels.

The last picture is from this beast that wandered into my yard as I
was shooting and started growling at me as if he owned the joint!
So I decided to shoot him :-) I did USM this one...

Craig
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_0017.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:30:58.9
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/4000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_0018.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:31:32
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_00071.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:34:39.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/3200 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
DSC_00111.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:35:44.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/4
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF

The Gallery can be seen here if these don't show up:
http://www.pbase.com/csqaure4/inbox
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Dan,

I understand that the first two are underexposed...maybe I should go out with my 50/ F1.8 and try and get better exposure with the current "bright" lighting condition. I understand it is difficult to run into a situation where you would actually need this shutter speed under normal conditions at ISO 200. I am not here to complain, I am merely trying to show that as reported, there is an issue.

However, this shot below is also underexposed but does not exhibit the phenomena and I am very pleased with the results. Trust me, I am not trying to feed the trolls, just trying to show that, yeah, it may be an issue, but, then it may not. I love the camera and wouldn't return it even if this remains an issue. I honestly don't think that I will ever spoil a photo because of it.

Craig
Dan Clark said:
several stops. There may be color shift, but given the exposure,
it's very difficult to determine anything for sure.

Please post a correctly exposed shot at 1/4000 to 1/8000 so that we
can take a look.

Regards,

Dan.
Click to expand...

Dan Clark said:
Dan Clark said:
Dan Clark said:
DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...
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Of course the effect is visible in DSC-0018. It seems that this color shift is really about drastically underexposing and once you use a proper exposure it disappears. As I recall back in the dark ages when I underexposed film I also used to get some poor results!
Just my opinion
CN
sebbri said:
A> D Photogs said:
Okay. This is my first attempt at uploading some of these
photos...the first two from late yesterday taken with a 50 f/1.8
clearly exhibit the color shift. Two from this morning from
70-200VR at f/2.8 seem not to. You decide. These were not
retouched, only resized to 680 pixels.

The last picture is from this beast that wandered into my yard as I
was shooting and started growling at me as if he owned the joint!
So I decided to shoot him :-) I did USM this one...

Craig



DSC_0017.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:30:58.9
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/4000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_0018.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/21 18:31:32
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00071.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:34:39.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/3200 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



DSC_00111.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:35:44.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/4
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF

The Gallery can be seen here if these don't show up:
http://www.pbase.com/csqaure4/inbox
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CN,

I agree...I just went out and shot a few with the 50 f/1.8...I think you will like the results :-)

I will post them shortly.
Craig
cn painter said:
Of course the effect is visible in DSC-0018. It seems that this
color shift is really about drastically underexposing and once you
use a proper exposure it disappears. As I recall back in the dark
ages when I underexposed film I also used to get some poor results!
Just my opinion
CN
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Craig,

I didn't think you were feeding the trolls. I think you were reporting the facts - a good thing, IMO.

My D70 should be here by Wednesday, so I'm pretty committed at this point. I expect that the D70 will not be a perfect camera (they don't exist). The best we can hope for is that the camera meets our needs and gives us the pics that we want with minmimal hassles. I'm just trying to understand if there is an issue and the extent to which it exists and under what conditions.

Based on the evidence that I've gathered so far, there may be an issue under the following conditions:
  • 1/4000-1/8000 second shutter speed
  • 200 ISO
  • Underexposed
  • Firmware 1.00
My interest is proactive - how we can move forward. With more information, we can determine if the issue exists with later cameras (because of later manufacturing or firmware version), or at different ISOs, or at different exposure levels, or at different shutter speeds. This helps us define workarounds, potential fixes, etc.

My D70 will also be a US unit. When I get mine, I'll try to repeat the tests so that we can compare results.

I much appreciate your efforts.

Best regards,

Dan.
A> D Photogs said:
I understand that the first two are underexposed...maybe I should
go out with my 50/ F1.8 and try and get better exposure with the
current "bright" lighting condition. I understand it is difficult
to run into a situation where you would actually need this shutter
speed under normal conditions at ISO 200. I am not here to
complain, I am merely trying to show that as reported, there is an
issue.

However, this shot below is also underexposed but does not exhibit
the phenomena and I am very pleased with the results. Trust me, I
am not trying to feed the trolls, just trying to show that, yeah,
it may be an issue, but, then it may not. I love the camera and
wouldn't return it even if this remains an issue. I honestly don't
think that I will ever spoil a photo because of it.

Craig
Dan Clark said:
several stops. There may be color shift, but given the exposure,
it's very difficult to determine anything for sure.

Please post a correctly exposed shot at 1/4000 to 1/8000 so that we
can take a look.

Regards,

Dan.
Click to expand...

AD Photogs said:
AD Photogs said:
AD Photogs said:
DSC_00061.NEF
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 08:32:46.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: VR 70-200mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 200mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
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...and they aren't all that great :-(

I stepped out and shot 3 pics...all using 50 f/1.8 wide open, all ISO 200. First two at 8000 SS and not at all underexposed. The color shift is evident, at least slightly. D@mn!

Third shot at 5000 and no color issues evident...hurrah?

As I said earlier, this is my first dSLR, been shooting film for 25 years with various Canon rigs. I bought the D70 so that I would have a "real" camera as my first foray into DSLR. I still think I made the right choice...especially when paired with the 70-200 VR (this beast just begs for a subject to point it at!)

Here are the samples with EXIF...



Tree and Sky 1.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:16:41
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



Tree and Sky 2.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:17:00.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



Wind Chimes.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:18:11
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/5000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
 
grid on the bottom right side???

I see a grid there!? is this in your original too??
A> D Photogs said:
...and they aren't all that great :-(

I stepped out and shot 3 pics...all using 50 f/1.8 wide open, all
ISO 200. First two at 8000 SS and not at all underexposed. The
color shift is evident, at least slightly. D@mn!

Third shot at 5000 and no color issues evident...hurrah?

As I said earlier, this is my first dSLR, been shooting film for 25
years with various Canon rigs. I bought the D70 so that I would
have a "real" camera as my first foray into DSLR. I still think I
made the right choice...especially when paired with the 70-200 VR
(this beast just begs for a subject to point it at!)

Here are the samples with EXIF...



Tree and Sky 1.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:16:41
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



Tree and Sky 2.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:17:00.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



Wind Chimes.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:18:11
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/5000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...
 
I don't see any grid...its in the photo? All of them?
McErono said:
I see a grid there!? is this in your original too??
A> D Photogs said:
...and they aren't all that great :-(

I stepped out and shot 3 pics...all using 50 f/1.8 wide open, all
ISO 200. First two at 8000 SS and not at all underexposed. The
color shift is evident, at least slightly. D@mn!

Third shot at 5000 and no color issues evident...hurrah?

As I said earlier, this is my first dSLR, been shooting film for 25
years with various Canon rigs. I bought the D70 so that I would
have a "real" camera as my first foray into DSLR. I still think I
made the right choice...especially when paired with the 70-200 VR
(this beast just begs for a subject to point it at!)

Here are the samples with EXIF...



Tree and Sky 1.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:16:41
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



Tree and Sky 2.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:17:00.1
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/8000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF



Wind Chimes.jpg
Nikon D70
2004/03/22 12:18:11
RAW (12-bit) Lossless
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
Lens: 50mm F/1.8 D
Focal Length: 50mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/5000 sec - F/1.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
PixelVampire said:
I see the grid on the 1st 2 images on the left side.
Click to expand...
Okay...I think I see it, very faint "grid" pattern in the sky, lower left...do you know how to do a 100% crop in PS6 and I will post it from the original NEF? I don't really know how to do this and save as a jpeg...I am a newbie at this sort of stuff.

If I zoom in on the NEF it comes and goes as I go from 25% to 200%...is that not just aliasing from the pixel resolution to screen resolution? It really shows up at 75% but goes away at 100%, then back again at 180%. I really don't want to start another "oh my god" thing if it is simple rendering artifact. It looks kinda like pixelization.
 
photogs,

I am really worried after seeing your pic!!! Your pic exposure looks fine to me, and those pictures are prob some of the pictures that I would take. Shooting into the sky or portraits using F1.8 under bright lighting. And the grid!!! I am worried... cuz so far I haven't seen any explaination yet and can only sit and wait.

Even for your wind chime pic, I sort of see the color shift on the top. I dont know which vertical way you film this, but I see it.

I travel a lot, esp to beaches locations. I dont want to end up with shots with color shifts and go home jumping ups and downs! I haven't bought it yet, but I have been anticipating this highly rated cam... I am gonna hold off for sure!!!

Dave
 
The wind chime picture sure looks looks fine to me. This shift in color mentioned below sure looks lools a pretty accurate depiction of the way that the sky changes in color as it goes from the horizon to the zenith overhead.

CN

photogs,
kpdavelin said:
I am really worried after seeing your pic!!! Your pic exposure
looks fine to me, and those pictures are prob some of the pictures
that I would take. Shooting into the sky or portraits using F1.8
under bright lighting. And the grid!!! I am worried... cuz so far I
haven't seen any explaination yet and can only sit and wait.

Even for your wind chime pic, I sort of see the color shift on the
top. I dont know which vertical way you film this, but I see it.

I travel a lot, esp to beaches locations. I dont want to end up
with shots with color shifts and go home jumping ups and downs! I
haven't bought it yet, but I have been anticipating this highly
rated cam... I am gonna hold off for sure!!!

Dave
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