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...by perspective I mean a view from a longer lens perspective. I just stretched the image a tad in height to show what perspective can do, similar to what Dave touched on about cropping. If I was doing this for a client, some of the minor retouches would be a necessity as well.
http://www.vizualgroove.com/digitalimaging/re1.htm
Regards,
VG
Dave Jaseck said:

kingvald said:
Hi, I'm looking for advice on how to turn an "ordinary" photo into
an professional looking studio portrait.

Example, from this:



to this:


  • How to replace background ?
  • How to make a good looking canvas backround in Photoshop?
  • Lightning?
  • Skin cleanup?
Thanx
IAK
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Dave
http://www.pbase.com/davidjaseck/photographs
http://www.pbase.com/davidjaseck/photorestorations

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Brian Randall said:
Vikki,
You are bordering dangerously on the side of being "Out of our
League". Oh well......who cares, keep at it. I love to watch
Pro's work.

Byron Wilkerson
Brian Randall Photography
http://www.pbase.com/brw_2909
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Byron,
Vikki's method, explained simply:

"MAWTSASWLG"

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Regards,
(afka Wile E. Coyote)
Bill

A proud owner of an E-10, LIPO, WCON, TCON 14B, FL-CB05, Stroboframe, FL-40, and other stuff...

 
The second picture isn't true to the original. One particularly galling effect is that the artist changed the picture proportions, reducing the width by a few percent. No wrinkles of course, and impossible lighting.

Technically, it's quite good, but I think you could find better work to copy. Pictures like that are the bain of online personals. It's a completely different person.

DI
 
Bill_Turner said:
Vikki's method, explained simply:

"MAWTSASWLG"

--Bill,
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I give, what the heck are you talking about. I gotta know!

Also, what gives with the name change also. I thought I was the only one allowed to have two names...lol

Byron
Bill_Turner said:
Regards,
(afka Wile E. Coyote)
Bill

A proud owner of an E-10, LIPO, WCON, TCON 14B, FL-CB05,
Stroboframe, FL-40, and other stuff...

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Byron Wilkerson
Brian Randall Photography
http://www.pbase.com/brw_2909
 
Brian Randall said:
Brian Randall said:
Vikki's method, explained simply:

"MAWTSASWLG"

--Bill,
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I give, what the heck are you talking about. I gotta know!

Also, what gives with the name change also. I thought I was the
only one allowed to have two names...lol

Byron
Brian Randall said:
Regards,
(afka Wile E. Coyote)
Bill

A proud owner of an E-10, LIPO, WCON, TCON 14B, FL-CB05,
Stroboframe, FL-40, and other stuff...

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Byron Wilkerson
Brian Randall Photography
http://www.pbase.com/brw_2909
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Vikki Hansen
http://www.lifetimephoto.com
http://www.pbase.com/vhansen/galleries
 
Which "second" picture?
Dave Indech said:
The second picture isn't true to the original. One particularly
galling effect is that the artist changed the picture proportions,
reducing the width by a few percent. No wrinkles of course, and
impossible lighting.

Technically, it's quite good, but I think you could find better
work to copy. Pictures like that are the bain of online personals.
It's a completely different person.

DI
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Vikki Hansen
http://www.lifetimephoto.com
http://www.pbase.com/vhansen/galleries
 
Dave Indech said:
The second picture isn't true to the original. One particularly
galling effect is that the artist changed the picture proportions,
reducing the width by a few percent. No wrinkles of course, and
impossible lighting.

Technically, it's quite good, but I think you could find better
work to copy. Pictures like that are the bain of online personals.
It's a completely different person.

DI
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not true to what?
not true in what sense?
whose standards are you referring to?
changing picture proportions is galling to whom?
is lightening the background or removing shadows as galling?

can you send me a list of all permitted and forbidden retouching techniques please.

do you have any idea how many persons are quite happy to have their wrinkles removed, either photographically or with botox, you may find that galling, but i bet you dont tell them as much.

dave do you think the artist here accomplished what he set out to do?

or do you think the question should be: did he accomplish what you would like him to?

feivel

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feivel said:
Dave Indech said:
The second picture isn't true to the original. One particularly
galling effect is that the artist changed the picture proportions,
reducing the width by a few percent. No wrinkles of course, and
impossible lighting.

Technically, it's quite good, but I think you could find better
work to copy. Pictures like that are the bain of online personals.
It's a completely different person.

DI
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not true to what?
not true in what sense?
whose standards are you referring to?
changing picture proportions is galling to whom?
is lightening the background or removing shadows as galling?
can you send me a list of all permitted and forbidden retouching
techniques please.
do you have any idea how many persons are quite happy to have their
wrinkles removed, either photographically or with botox, you may
find that galling, but i bet you dont tell them as much.

dave do you think the artist here accomplished what he
set out to do?

or do you think the question should be: did he accomplish what you
would like him to?

feivel

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VG said:
feivel said:
Dave Indech said:
The second picture isn't true to the original. One particularly
galling effect is that the artist changed the picture proportions,
reducing the width by a few percent. No wrinkles of course, and
impossible lighting.

Technically, it's quite good, but I think you could find better
work to copy. Pictures like that are the bain of online personals.
It's a completely different person.

DI
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not true to what?
not true in what sense?
whose standards are you referring to?
changing picture proportions is galling to whom?
is lightening the background or removing shadows as galling?
can you send me a list of all permitted and forbidden retouching
techniques please.
do you have any idea how many persons are quite happy to have their
wrinkles removed, either photographically or with botox, you may
find that galling, but i bet you dont tell them as much.

dave do you think the artist here accomplished what he
set out to do?

or do you think the question should be: did he accomplish what you
would like him to?

feivel

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Dave had observed something that he perhaps felt strongly about. We can forgive him for his strength, but thank him for his observation.
--
Bernd Taeger

 
Kingvald asked for ideas on how to make the photo more PROFESSIONAL looking with this thread. He "asked" for "ideas". He did not just state one person should respond, and asked for "ideas". My goodness, Katrin Eismann makes a LIVING out of doing these types of restorations and enhancements, and she openly shows how to do it in her books. Unless I am missing something, what Vikki did was spend her valuable time doing EXACTLY what was asked for by Kingvald. And EXCEPTIONALLY WELL in my opinion.
Byron Wilkerson
Brian Randall Photography
http://www.pbase.com/brw_2909
 
Brian Randall said:
Kingvald asked for ideas on how to make the photo more PROFESSIONAL
looking with this thread. He "asked" for "ideas". He did not
just state one person should respond, and asked for "ideas". My
goodness, Katrin Eismann makes a LIVING out of doing these types of
restorations and enhancements, and she openly shows how to do it in
her books. Unless I am missing something, what Vikki did was
spend her valuable time doing EXACTLY what was asked for by
Kingvald. And EXCEPTIONALLY WELL in my opinion.
Byron Wilkerson
Brian Randall Photography
http://www.pbase.com/brw_2909
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My feeling is that you partially responded to my post below. My fault for not being explicit, I did not want to insult anyones intelligence. the motion Gif I posted was meant to be a comparison of the two pictures initially posted in the opening thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=8006338

Now to the question:

Is it permissible to squish or elongate facial features to make a different face out of the original? My feeling says no.
And yes, Vicky's rendition is a class act, no doubt about that.

--
Bernd Taeger
 
Kent C said:
Bernd Taeger said:
Dave had observed something that he perhaps felt strongly about. We
can forgive him for his strength, but thank him for his observation.
--
Bernd Taeger
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http://www3.sympatico.ca/btaeger/posts/retouching/Paula
Kent C said:
Wasn't it rather obvious? Don't think it was the mere "observation".
--
Kent
http://www.pbase.com/kentc
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Not to me it wasn't at first glance, the fact that the corrected image was distorted, squished sideways in this post:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=8006338

I never noticed it until Dave told us above. Even then, I had to paste the two images up onto two layers, reduce the "corrected" image to fit vertically with the background image, and only then I was certain. That's the reason for my post, just a comparison for those who may be, like me, not immediately certain of what they are seeing.
Sorry for that,
Greetings,

--
Bernd Taeger
 
Bernd Taeger said:
Kent C said:
Bernd Taeger said:
Dave had observed something that he perhaps felt strongly about. We
can forgive him for his strength, but thank him for his observation.
--
Bernd Taeger
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http://www3.sympatico.ca/btaeger/posts/retouching/Paula
Bernd Taeger said:
Wasn't it rather obvious? Don't think it was the mere "observation".
--
Kent
http://www.pbase.com/kentc
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Not to me it wasn't at first glance, the fact that the corrected
image was distorted, squished sideways in this post:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=8006338

I never noticed it until Dave told us above. Even then, I had to
paste the two images up onto two layers, reduce the "corrected"
image to fit vertically with the background image, and only then I
was certain. That's the reason for my post, just a comparison for
those who may be, like me, not immediately certain of what they are
seeing.
Sorry for that,
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No apologiies necessary. Thanks for the response. Interesting that you didn't notice it and perhaps that, rather than distortion, was the intention of the retoucher. :-) It's not like these types of images are 'studied' in the way we have done here.

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Kent
http://www.pbase.com/kentc
 
I didn't see what lens was used on this image but if it was a medium to wide angle, the perspective would bloom a bit and the person would look 'wider' than what they really are based on the distance. Who knows...

Rather than what is 'politically correct' on this forum, you will find a plethora of unique ideas, each of which would easily stand on its own merits. Speaking from shooting and retouching experience, the average person would rather look like most any of the retouches offered to this image than the original. Of course, there are times that a retouch, however minor, isn't what the client wants. I've rarely seen such in general portraiture.
Regards,
VG
Bernd Taeger said:
Kent C said:
Bernd Taeger said:
Dave had observed something that he perhaps felt strongly about. We
can forgive him for his strength, but thank him for his observation.
--
Bernd Taeger
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http://www3.sympatico.ca/btaeger/posts/retouching/Paula
Bernd Taeger said:
Wasn't it rather obvious? Don't think it was the mere "observation".
--
Kent
http://www.pbase.com/kentc
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Not to me it wasn't at first glance, the fact that the corrected
image was distorted, squished sideways in this post:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=8006338

I never noticed it until Dave told us above. Even then, I had to
paste the two images up onto two layers, reduce the "corrected"
image to fit vertically with the background image, and only then I
was certain. That's the reason for my post, just a comparison for
those who may be, like me, not immediately certain of what they are
seeing.
Sorry for that,
Greetings,

--
Bernd Taeger
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Bernd,

Thanks also for clarifying what you meant. We all love to do certain things here, and yes of course some will like what we do, and others won't, (personal opinions) but we all usually get along very well most of the time because we all just enjoy doing this type of thing. So, again, thanks for the clarification of what you meant.
Byron Wilkerson
Brian Randall Photography
http://www.pbase.com/brw_2909
 
Did I offend you feivel? Would you rather I divorce my impressions and speak in reverence of everything posted here?

Perhaps you would like my retouch.



Indeed, I didn't care for the dress, nor the original skintone.

DI
feivel said:
Dave Indech said:
The second picture isn't true to the original. One particularly
galling effect is that the artist changed the picture proportions,
reducing the width by a few percent. No wrinkles of course, and
impossible lighting.

Technically, it's quite good, but I think you could find better
work to copy. Pictures like that are the bain of online personals.
It's a completely different person.

DI
Click to expand...
not true to what?
not true in what sense?
whose standards are you referring to?
changing picture proportions is galling to whom?
is lightening the background or removing shadows as galling?
can you send me a list of all permitted and forbidden retouching
techniques please.
do you have any idea how many persons are quite happy to have their
wrinkles removed, either photographically or with botox, you may
find that galling, but i bet you dont tell them as much.

dave do you think the artist here accomplished what he
set out to do?

or do you think the question should be: did he accomplish what you
would like him to?

feivel

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