Canon CF?

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra speed (12MB/sec!).

The 1D Mk II will top out at 5MB/s max. So don't expect to get 12MB/s performance out of the 80x Lexars when you buy them. But... this does not mean that a good quality CF card is not better than a bad CF card. A good quality CF card is still of benefit. Take for example the 1D. It maxes out at around 3MB/s. But it takes a good card to bring out this speed. See Rob Galbraith's CF card database...

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6009

Joo

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

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I was told at a recent seminar the Mark II will write at 5MB/sec...

Brent

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

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Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

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I don't have any experience, except with few miniature cards they
shipped with some cameras, and if I'm not mistaken I never even
tested they worked.

Anyway, the fact is that there are only few manufacturers in the
world making the chips and controllers, and Canon is not one of
those. The odds are quite heavily against them making any kind
of breakthroughs in this area.

Edward Avila said:

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

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I guess the safe bet is to wait until Rob Galbraith has updated his CF
card speed charts to include MKII and the Lexar... And 'm quite sure
Canon-branded CFs wouldn't come close to Sandisk's and Lexar's
faster offerings.

af

Will there be an firmware update making it 10MB/sec? I don't wanna buya ultra II for nothing..

Joo said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6009

Joo

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

Click to expand...

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• Maybe one day I'll take a decent picture. In the meantime, I'll

blame the equipment.



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http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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Doubtful. I don't recall Canon ever releasing a firmware like that in the past.

But the Ultra II isn't for nothing. If you notice, the Ultra II is one of the fastest CF cards for any Canon camera. Almost across the board. I would expect it to be one of the fastest for the Mk II also. I also bought an Ultra II in anticipation of the 1D Mk II. I'll probably pick up another fairly soon.

Joo

onauj3 said:

Joo said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6009

Joo

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

Click to expand...

--

• Maybe one day I'll take a decent picture. In the meantime, I'll

blame the equipment.



http://www.singularlight.com/
http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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All the canon branded cards I've seen have been Sandisk non-ultras, in other words Slooooow..

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What about the Lexar PRO 40x? It is cheap now, $210 with rebate 1 GB. Thanks.

Joo said:

But the Ultra II isn't for nothing. If you notice, the Ultra II is
one of the fastest CF cards for any Canon camera. Almost across the
board. I would expect it to be one of the fastest for the Mk II
also. I also bought an Ultra II in anticipation of the 1D Mk II.
I'll probably pick up another fairly soon.

Joo

onauj3 said:

Joo said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6009

Joo

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

Click to expand...

--

• Maybe one day I'll take a decent picture. In the meantime, I'll

blame the equipment.



http://www.singularlight.com/
http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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• Maybe one day I'll take a decent picture. In the meantime, I'll

blame the equipment.



http://www.singularlight.com/
http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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the best CF (or at least one of the best) will be Sandisk Extreme. I don't recall the document but I do recall a Canon paper that mentioned that particular brand/type. I'm not sure it is any faster than the Ultra or not. I got it because I do indeed shoot in extreme conditions. Sandisk Utlra or Ridata (in its' high end) should both be excellent cards.

The Lexar 40x is one of the fastest for the 1D which is currently Canon's fastest camera. I would expect that the Lexar 40x would also be one of the fastest with the 1D Mk II.

Remember, this is all conjecture based on the performance of these cards on other Canon cameras as noted by Rob Galbraith.

Joo

onauj3 said:

Joo said:

But the Ultra II isn't for nothing. If you notice, the Ultra II is
one of the fastest CF cards for any Canon camera. Almost across the
board. I would expect it to be one of the fastest for the Mk II
also. I also bought an Ultra II in anticipation of the 1D Mk II.
I'll probably pick up another fairly soon.

Joo

onauj3 said:

Joo said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6009

Joo

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

Click to expand...

--

• Maybe one day I'll take a decent picture. In the meantime, I'll

blame the equipment.



http://www.singularlight.com/
http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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blame the equipment.



http://www.singularlight.com/
http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

So, If you fired off 20 RAW photos with the Mark II it would take almost 33 seconds before you could do the same again and possibly up to almost 2 seconds before you could shoot another single shot. I remember 35mm when a role of film was about 36 exposures. It took a lot longer than a few seconds to change a roll of film. I love digital, it is cool and it is spoiling us.

My calculations may be off, most of the time they are but still you get my drift.

If you have a good USB2 or firewire connection it will help data to and from your computer and the CF card... Your HD should be able to handle it...

Cards are reaching that point to where their are other problems. If most camera dont support high data rates (I am talking about consumber and pro camera) AND consumber hard drives dont in the real world go past 10MB a second what will be the point of having a 80x or a 100x card

Its like the people who want a mother board with ATA100 but their old hard drive will only transfer 5mb a second..

I do know that for a camera that could fire off 8.5 3MB jpegs, 5MB to CF seems slow though.. The only thing I wish the Canon Mark II has was Lexars WA.. (it does not have it, read it in the specs)

What I would like to know what is the fastest transfer speed to the SD card

Joo said:

But the Ultra II isn't for nothing. If you notice, the Ultra II is
one of the fastest CF cards for any Canon camera. Almost across the
board. I would expect it to be one of the fastest for the Mk II
also. I also bought an Ultra II in anticipation of the 1D Mk II.
I'll probably pick up another fairly soon.

Joo

onauj3 said:

Joo said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6009

Joo

Edward Avila said:

Anyone have any experience with the Canon branded CF cards?
Example: http://www.flash-memory-store.com/canoncf.html

I'm looking for the best solution for a 1DMKII, and just stumbled
on this.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Lexar 80X that's supposed to be out
in May. Need to make sure the MKII will take advantage of the extra
speed (12MB/sec!).

Click to expand...

--

• Maybe one day I'll take a decent picture. In the meantime, I'll

blame the equipment.



http://www.singularlight.com/
http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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http://www.pbase.com/jchung/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcphotogs/

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Think about this:

At 8.5FPS you would go through a 36exp roll of film in 4.2 seconds.. That is scary

8.5 is less then 1/3 the speed of motion picture film speed... I WISH the camera could do 16FPS at a lower resolution... then we could make really cool highresolution movies at lets say, 2mp

(16fps is the slowest rate you can show moving image before indavidual frames are noriced by the average person.)

Snowden said:

So, If you fired off 20 RAW photos with the Mark II it would take
almost 33 seconds before you could do the same again and possibly
up to almost 2 seconds before you could shoot another single shot.
I remember 35mm when a role of film was about 36 exposures. It took
a lot longer than a few seconds to change a roll of film. I love
digital, it is cool and it is spoiling us.

My calculations may be off, most of the time they are but still you
get my drift.

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Does anyone here know how they test CF speeds? LOL.. they do it the same way they test HD and DDR memory speeds using a direct connection to bypass the data contoller bus... (cheating in a way)

The test are the maximum average the card can transfer.. Here is the other thing. When reading speed reviews, even wondered why on the same camera/computer 2 40x cards transfer data at very different speeds?

The quaility of the cards controller affects the speed a lot. you can take a Lexar, which has high end controllers and another no name card with a cheap controller and they are both rated at 40 but the lexar will do double the REAL WORLD RATE. When they test the memory they dont allways go though the onboard controller to get the memory data rate.. They just test the speed of the memory directly connected to their test controller..

I have run so much ram over the year though memory testers and have seen results all over the place when it comes to speed transfers.. If you want to test the best speed of your card, hook it to a GOOD USB2 or firewire card reader, if you card is 1GB, make a 1GB file that is will fill the card 100%. Make sure your HD and connection can even transfer at a rate higher then what the CF card is rated for, format the card so its empry and time the 1GB files transfer.. You can then find out the average transfer rate... If you try the same think with 1000 1mb jpegs it will ALLWAYS TAKE LONGER , and if you have gaps (erased area on the CF card) it will also take longer.. Things allways transfer faster when the files are continuos..

Most of the cards I tried this on came out at half their rated speed.. One no name card I played with was rated at 40, the real speed was more like 15x. My computer that I tested this on is a Dual Xeon 2.4ghz p4 Server, 1gb ram, 15K RPM Cheetah high speed HD and a lexar firewire card reader...