Really Excellent Monitor Calibration

pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
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pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

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pbleic said:

pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

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krampster said:

pbleic said:

pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

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pbleic said:

Making Prints match your monitor.

First build a monitor profile with WiziWYG - my favorite tool for
the moment.
( http://www.praxisoft.com/pages/products.wiziwyg.html ).WiziWYG is
free. It does a GREAT job of tweaking your monitor. You don't need
ANYTHING else, other than the program and away you go.

If you then convert your prints to an accurate printer profile
( http://www.drycreekphoto.com ) you can get your photos
professionally printed and they will come out very close to the way
you see them on your screen. This is actually my preferred
printing.

YOU ARE DONE.

To match your home printer you have several choices:

1. Tweak your printer adjustments and don't use color management:
http://www.normankoren.com/printer_calibration.html

2. Do a "poor mans" calibration in PS or PSE:
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/profile.htm

3. Have a professional profile made for you by DryCreek - URL above
or Mike Chaney - http://www.ddisoftware.com/printerprofiles/

4. Build a printer profile with either WiziWYG - FREE, but you have
to buy an IT8 target or Profile Prism $79, but includes IT8 target
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/ .

IT8 targets are CAREFULLY printed color targets that come along
with a reference read of each color value in a file. You then use
your scanner and printer to assist the program in "matching" these
values, creating a profile which contains curves that adjust your
printed values to the actual values on the card. After you have
the profile you convert each photo before printing to this space.

Even though there are cheaper IT8 targets on the market (best from
Wolf Faust in Germany http://www.targets.coloraid.de/ ) the
Praxisoft data file is proprietary, so you MUST use their IT*
targets which are $89 each.

Here is a TEN page step by step on how to use it for printer profiling
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/wiziwyg/wiziwyg_1.htm

5. You can also buy Mike Chaney's program, Profile Prism which does
more or less the same thing, and costs $79 but INCLUDES an IT8
target:
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/

Both Profile Prism AND Praxisoft have good reputations. However,
only the Praxisoft profiles can be tweaked afterwards, and only if
you buy the more expensive, non-freeware edition.

You can also do a tweak in PS afterwards, more or less the same as

1. 2 http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/profile.htm and apply this to

each picture along with the profile - to get things perfect.

REMEMBER - both of these programs rely on you having a GOOD scanner
and adjusting the scanner and printer so that no color management
is done outside of the profiling.

Also, REMEMBER, you have to do this for every ink/paper combo you
use, and some say with each change of ink (if you are really fussy).

Frankly, I much prefer tweaking the printer settings and using NO
color management, ala Norman Koren, #1 above.

Hope this helps.

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pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

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Photographs at: http://www.pbase.com/pbleic
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pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

------------------------------------------------
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Photographs at: http://www.pbase.com/pbleic
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Copyright 2003, 2004 All rights reserved.

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pbleic said:

Making Prints match your monitor.

First build a monitor profile with WiziWYG - my favorite tool for
the moment.
( http://www.praxisoft.com/pages/products.wiziwyg.html ).WiziWYG is
free. It does a GREAT job of tweaking your monitor. You don't need
ANYTHING else, other than the program and away you go.

If you then convert your prints to an accurate printer profile
( http://www.drycreekphoto.com ) you can get your photos
professionally printed and they will come out very close to the way
you see them on your screen. This is actually my preferred
printing.

YOU ARE DONE.

To match your home printer you have several choices:

1. Tweak your printer adjustments and don't use color management:
http://www.normankoren.com/printer_calibration.html

2. Do a "poor mans" calibration in PS or PSE:
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/profile.htm

3. Have a professional profile made for you by DryCreek - URL above
or Mike Chaney - http://www.ddisoftware.com/printerprofiles/

4. Build a printer profile with either WiziWYG - FREE, but you have
to buy an IT8 target or Profile Prism $79, but includes IT8 target
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/ .

IT8 targets are CAREFULLY printed color targets that come along
with a reference read of each color value in a file. You then use
your scanner and printer to assist the program in "matching" these
values, creating a profile which contains curves that adjust your
printed values to the actual values on the card. After you have
the profile you convert each photo before printing to this space.

Even though there are cheaper IT8 targets on the market (best from
Wolf Faust in Germany http://www.targets.coloraid.de/ ) the
Praxisoft data file is proprietary, so you MUST use their IT*
targets which are $89 each.

Here is a TEN page step by step on how to use it for printer profiling
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/wiziwyg/wiziwyg_1.htm

5. You can also buy Mike Chaney's program, Profile Prism which does
more or less the same thing, and costs $79 but INCLUDES an IT8
target:
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/

Both Profile Prism AND Praxisoft have good reputations. However,
only the Praxisoft profiles can be tweaked afterwards, and only if
you buy the more expensive, non-freeware edition.

You can also do a tweak in PS afterwards, more or less the same as

1. 2 http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/profile.htm and apply this to

each picture along with the profile - to get things perfect.

REMEMBER - both of these programs rely on you having a GOOD scanner
and adjusting the scanner and printer so that no color management
is done outside of the profiling.

Also, REMEMBER, you have to do this for every ink/paper combo you
use, and some say with each change of ink (if you are really fussy).

Frankly, I much prefer tweaking the printer settings and using NO
color management, ala Norman Koren, #1 above.

Hope this helps.

--
Paul

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Photographs at: http://www.pbase.com/pbleic
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pbleic said:

Making Prints match your monitor.

First build a monitor profile with WiziWYG - my favorite tool for
the moment.
( http://www.praxisoft.com/pages/products.wiziwyg.html ).WiziWYG is
free. It does a GREAT job of tweaking your monitor. You don't need
ANYTHING else, other than the program and away you go.

If you then convert your prints to an accurate printer profile
( http://www.drycreekphoto.com ) you can get your photos
professionally printed and they will come out very close to the way
you see them on your screen. This is actually my preferred
printing.

YOU ARE DONE.

To match your home printer you have several choices:

1. Tweak your printer adjustments and don't use color management:
http://www.normankoren.com/printer_calibration.html

2. Do a "poor mans" calibration in PS or PSE:
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/profile.htm

3. Have a professional profile made for you by DryCreek - URL above
or Mike Chaney - http://www.ddisoftware.com/printerprofiles/

4. Build a printer profile with either WiziWYG - FREE, but you have
to buy an IT8 target or Profile Prism $79, but includes IT8 target
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/ .

IT8 targets are CAREFULLY printed color targets that come along
with a reference read of each color value in a file. You then use
your scanner and printer to assist the program in "matching" these
values, creating a profile which contains curves that adjust your
printed values to the actual values on the card. After you have
the profile you convert each photo before printing to this space.

Even though there are cheaper IT8 targets on the market (best from
Wolf Faust in Germany http://www.targets.coloraid.de/ ) the
Praxisoft data file is proprietary, so you MUST use their IT*
targets which are $89 each.

Here is a TEN page step by step on how to use it for printer profiling
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/wiziwyg/wiziwyg_1.htm

5. You can also buy Mike Chaney's program, Profile Prism which does
more or less the same thing, and costs $79 but INCLUDES an IT8
target:
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/

Both Profile Prism AND Praxisoft have good reputations. However,
only the Praxisoft profiles can be tweaked afterwards, and only if
you buy the more expensive, non-freeware edition.

You can also do a tweak in PS afterwards, more or less the same as

1. 2 http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/profile.htm and apply this to

each picture along with the profile - to get things perfect.

REMEMBER - both of these programs rely on you having a GOOD scanner
and adjusting the scanner and printer so that no color management
is done outside of the profiling.

Also, REMEMBER, you have to do this for every ink/paper combo you
use, and some say with each change of ink (if you are really fussy).

Frankly, I much prefer tweaking the printer settings and using NO
color management, ala Norman Koren, #1 above.

Hope this helps.

--
Paul

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pbleic said:

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pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

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noisebeam said:

I tried this on an NEC 21" CRT (Multisync FP1350). I set the
monitor WB to 9300K and ran the visual calibration.

However because it is visual I seem to get a magenta tint to some
grey tones (the mid and darker ones) I think this is because of
the green gamma correction - it does rely on my eye/brain to say
that the middle square matches the outer. There is a fairly large
window of adjustment where the green seems close, but not perfectly
the same, then outside of this window it definitely gets brighter
or darker. This is with/wihout glasses, squinting, 10ft back, etc.

So any advice on getting the green gamma right? I wish it gave a
numeric value so I could force it higher or lower to tweak it after
the visual (so on a second try I knew what was different)

Other than the color tint I can see improvement in shadow detail.
With the default sRGB proflie I did not see any color shift across
a black to white gradient, but with this calibrator (and my
judgements when using it) the darker-mid grey tones get a magenta
tint.

Al

pbleic said:

I have been a fan of Little CMS and/or using your video card for
calibration. However, a thread on here pointed out WiziWYG from
Praxisoft.

Wow. I used it both on an LCD monitor and my CRT. EASY and really
accurate. One MAJOR issue is that in one of the last steps,
setting the White Point through Color Temperature you do one of the
following:

1. If your monitor is set to 6500 K, set the software at 9300 K.
2. If your monitor is set to 9300 K, set the software to 6500 K.

Don't do both, or the result will be unacceptably yellow.

Give it a try. Make sure in the last step to make it your "default
profile."
Make sure you get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader shortcut in your
Startup Folder.
--
Paul

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pbleic said:

When you are done with monitor profiling, you need to make the
profile associated with your monitor. First, if you don't save it
along with your other profiles, you need to right click it and then
do an "INSTALL PROFILE" on the right click menu.

Next, right click on the desktop, go to Properties --> Settings -->
Advanced --> Color Management. The new profile name should be
under the monitor. If it isn't, click ADD, and add it from the
directory. Then, set it as your default.

Without this you won't get the benefit of the profiling, especially
after a reboot.

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