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Downers:
Still limited to 400 ISO (and probably a noisy one, because CCD not
Canon's fault)
No Wireless remote.
NO IS so those 200mm are going to be less practical as oppose to A2.
If Price $1000 then no question that Drebel or D70 are going to be
a better decision.
No Digic II,
No Firewire or even USB 2. Those 8Mp Raws are going to be slow.
From Canon's site, don't shoot the messenger! Looks good to me!

http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/pro1/sample.html
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Why the 3MP camera has it, but 8MP has not ?
I am surprised.
I would guess because the 3MP camera has a longer zoom (needs it more) and is much cheaper overall to manufacture due to the smaller lens and sensor, so the added cost of IS wasn't too painful.

The Pro 1 is already pretty expensive with those fluorite and UD elements. An IS system (which would likely need to be larger than the IS system on the 10X zoom camera), might have pushed it outside of Canon's target price.

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IS will have to come in the Pro-1 and I think it'll be worth waiting for -

the S1 is an UZI (Oly C2100UZ) type camera and if the A70 is anything to go by (same CCD) , it's not much of an upgrade of the 4 year old 2Mp Olympus which was clean at ISO100, usable at ISO400 and had a solid internal zooming lens, a deep handgrip, powerful AF assist light, IR remote, full manual facilities etc - the S1's USM is Micro-USM so no better than a standard motor, just silent :( .. the whole camera looks fragile - the C2100UZ was a tough beast

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the G5 NEVER fringes on blue skies like that, only bright white skies - I can't wait to see backlit tree branches against a white sky ;-) ..

Anyway, these are only preliminary shots and the camera will cost DOUBLE that of the G5 at least (UK)

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With a swivel screen and a real fine movie mode.

Most important thing is that I just might be able to squeeze that in my trouser pockets (I do that with my V1 quite comfortably), while I can't imagine doing that with any of the older or newer image stabilised ultrazooms.
IS will have to come in the Pro-1 and I think it'll be worth
waiting for -

the S1 is an UZI (Oly C2100UZ) type camera and if the A70 is
anything to go by (same CCD) , it's not much of an upgrade of the 4
year old 2Mp Olympus which was clean at ISO100, usable at ISO400
and had a solid internal zooming lens, a deep handgrip, powerful AF
assist light, IR remote, full manual facilities etc - the S1's USM
is Micro-USM so no better than a standard motor, just silent :( ..
the whole camera looks fragile - the C2100UZ was a tough beast

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Adobe RGB have a wider gamut, so you have more room to play with.

sRGB is the minimum comon denominator but you would have to have a Bad CRT or LCD monitor to not appreciated full Adobe RGB. IExplorer is limited to sRGB too.
CMYK printed have an even more narow gamut than sRGB.

But is always best to start with the wides posible color gamut, for people who know how to work those Curves and levels.

Pro1 supporting Adobe RGB doesn't mean that that camera is capable of the whole spectrum though, but al least is not limited to sRGB.
Yeah but RAW Adobe RGB gives you more freedom for processing.
Unless Canon wanted to do something extreme with the image such as
drastically desaturating things to squeeze more colors into the
image at the expense of realism, there's not much to be gained by
shooting in Adobe RGB for an image viewed on our monitors.

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I'll repeat what i said in another thread:

If the Pro1 is infact the G8 equivalent, I sure hope Canon dont' let the G series die there and come out with a G6 with 6mp CCD (hopefully meaning less noise!) with a few new features of course.

There's certainly enough of a gap between the S1 and Pro1 to nicely fit a G6 in dont' you think :) So those who said "the Pro series was never a replacement for the G series"..... I hope you're right!

And with things looking as they are now, less noise will be a 'need' (and not just a craving) of prosumers this year.

The Pro 1 looks good though, i certainly ain't gona pass judgement on it till there's more info from reviewers :)

But if it's a disappointment, then a G6 would sound like it would hit the spot. Otherwise a Panasonic LC1 looks to be the next contender for my $$$

aren't we just spoilt for choice?! :) i love it!
Rich
From Canon's site, don't shoot the messenger! Looks good to me!

http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/pro1/sample.html
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""Re: But the S1 is tiny compared to the Uzi...""

I suppose that's the price to be paid for the deep handgrip and tough internal zooming lens, you're right, you stand as much chance of stuffing an UZI in a trouser pocket as you do a Fuji 602 or a 1DS with a 28-300L IS on ;-)

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Sorry I wasn't clearer...I meant that I'd love the the MkII as my primary and have the Pro1 as a carry-around for more mundane uses. That would kick a$$.
That would be the perfect carry-around along with a D1 MkII!
;-))

But it is heavy to carry-around with D1. I would like to have
something
with the same image quality, but compact. (like Leica ???)
 
Lucem wrote:

I'm assuming we're talking about the advantages of shooting in Adobe RGB here, and not editing in Adobe RGB.
Adobe RGB have a wider gamut, so you have more room to play with.
If your image is destined for display on a typical monitor, then the only advantage of shooting aRGB would be if you choose to desaturate the colors you have captured to make them visible on sRGB. As I said, you would be trading realism for the ability to cram more viewable colors into the image (assuming you don't lose any from desaturating).
sRGB is the minimum comon denominator but you would have to have a
Bad CRT or LCD monitor to not appreciated full Adobe RGB. IExplorer
is limited to sRGB too.
While there are a few, in general you will have trouble finding monitor that has a significantly wider gamut than sRGB. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is that such monitors would produce unsatisfactory looking images for the typical user who does not install color management software.
CMYK printed have an even more narow gamut than sRGB.
In terms of volume, yes. However, CMYK can produce colors outside of sRGB because the primaries are different. In other words, despite the smaller volume CMYK is not enclosed in sRGB.
But is always best to start with the wides posible color gamut, for
people who know how to work those Curves and levels.
It's nice to be able to edit in a wide space if you have enough bit depth to cover the space well because you have avoid accidentally clipping things during sequences of editing commands.
Pro1 supporting Adobe RGB doesn't mean that that camera is capable
of the whole spectrum though, but al least is not limited to sRGB.
For screen, there's no advantage to capturing in Adobe RGB. For print, depending upon the output device, there may be a slight advantage if you can hit some greens that are outside of sRGB, but within CMYK and aRGB.

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I personally don't think there will be an evolution of the G5... The Pro1 has basically the same features of the G series (just incremental improvements), the same price the other G series cameras had when they were released, and also the same form factor (just a bit bigger).

If somebody wants a camera that is a bit smaller, cheaper, and with a few features less, then the A series is just right for them. I don't think there is the need for the G-series anymore. Mind you, I had the G1 and G3, so I love the G-series... I just don't think it really makes much sense any longer.

Giordano
If the Pro1 is infact the G8 equivalent, I sure hope Canon dont'
let the G series die there and come out with a G6 with 6mp CCD
(hopefully meaning less noise!) with a few new features of course.

There's certainly enough of a gap between the S1 and Pro1 to nicely
fit a G6 in dont' you think :) So those who said "the Pro series
was never a replacement for the G series"..... I hope you're right!

And with things looking as they are now, less noise will be a
'need' (and not just a craving) of prosumers this year.

The Pro 1 looks good though, i certainly ain't gona pass judgement
on it till there's more info from reviewers :)

But if it's a disappointment, then a G6 would sound like it would
hit the spot. Otherwise a Panasonic LC1 looks to be the next
contender for my $$$

aren't we just spoilt for choice?! :) i love it!
Rich
From Canon's site, don't shoot the messenger! Looks good to me!

http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/pro1/sample.html
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If somebody wants a camera that is a bit smaller, cheaper, and with
a few features less, then the A series is just right for them. I
don't think there is the need for the G-series anymore. Mind you, I
had the G1 and G3, so I love the G-series... I just don't think it
really makes much sense any longer.

Giordano
If the Pro1 is infact the G8 equivalent, I sure hope Canon dont'
let the G series die there and come out with a G6 with 6mp CCD
(hopefully meaning less noise!) with a few new features of course.

There's certainly enough of a gap between the S1 and Pro1 to nicely
fit a G6 in dont' you think :) So those who said "the Pro series
was never a replacement for the G series"..... I hope you're right!

And with things looking as they are now, less noise will be a
'need' (and not just a craving) of prosumers this year.

The Pro 1 looks good though, i certainly ain't gona pass judgement
on it till there's more info from reviewers :)

But if it's a disappointment, then a G6 would sound like it would
hit the spot. Otherwise a Panasonic LC1 looks to be the next
contender for my $$$

aren't we just spoilt for choice?! :) i love it!
Rich
From Canon's site, don't shoot the messenger! Looks good to me!

http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/pro1/sample.html
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http://www.pbase.com/wp12001
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$799 MSRP I think, not the $999 I have seen for the Pro1. If the Pro1 is $799 then I am definitely interested.
 

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