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JoeSchmoe said:
If this is the 45 pt AF from the 1D, then it will be a major
upgrade. Lightning fast and accurate, and great tracking ability.
I would've shelled addition $$ for the 1D for this alone, had it a
higher resolution CMOS sensor.
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I recall last time I looked at the 45 point layout on a 1.3x crop factor that all 45 seemed to fit "snugly" into the viewfinder. I'm not sure they would fit onto a 1.6x viewfinder unless there were modifications... somewhere.

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You must be the only person in the camera world who has the photos, is not restricted by a NDA and DOESN'T POST THEM STRAIGHT AWAY. What is it, the Photoshop work not as easy as you expected?
Paul
 
Good point. Perhaps Photosniper got it wrong with respect to the multiplier or the AF, or perhaps he's just pulling our legs.
JCDoss said:
JoeSchmoe said:
If this is the 45 pt AF from the 1D, then it will be a major
upgrade. Lightning fast and accurate, and great tracking ability.
I would've shelled addition $$ for the 1D for this alone, had it a
higher resolution CMOS sensor.
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I recall last time I looked at the 45 point layout on a 1.3x crop
factor that all 45 seemed to fit "snugly" into the viewfinder. I'm
not sure they would fit onto a 1.6x viewfinder unless there were
modifications... somewhere.

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sjstokes said:
Isn't Photoshop COOL?
photosniper said:
Only the changes/improvements will be posted everything else is the
same
I will be posting a picture tonight of the new 10D Mk II
1.6x 6.3mp sensor
DIGIC II Processor
Advanced WB image sensor
4fps/20JPEG BUFFER (10 RAW)
0-18EV AF focus range
45point AF
TTL full aperture metering with 21 zone SPC
Spot metering
E-TTL II
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Weather sealed body+mount
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although I tend to share your doubts (especially in light of the previous provocative and pointless posts of the guy on the 1D forum) the only interesting quesiton seems to me to be who is NOT going to come back here and check at 11pm "just in case".
Paul Boothroyd said:
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You must be the only person in the camera world who has the photos,
is not restricted by a NDA and DOESN'T POST THEM STRAIGHT AWAY.
What is it, the Photoshop work not as easy as you expected?
Paul
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Yep, and I'll have had a good sleep by then - 7am my time.



Simon (in the sceptical UK...)
rami said:
Paul Boothroyd said:
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You must be the only person in the camera world who has the photos,
is not restricted by a NDA and DOESN'T POST THEM STRAIGHT AWAY.
What is it, the Photoshop work not as easy as you expected?
Paul
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you guys don't have to trash photosniper too much now. we can all wait until 11pm of his time, which i don't know what time zone, then if the thing doesn't turn out like what he said, we can release all our load :-) on him. otherwise this thread might be spammed with all the "sorry" or "apologize" words.
photosniper said:
Only the changes/improvements will be posted everything else is the
same
I will be posting a picture tonight of the new 10D Mk II
1.6x 6.3mp sensor
DIGIC II Processor
Advanced WB image sensor
4fps/20JPEG BUFFER (10 RAW)
0-18EV AF focus range
45point AF
TTL full aperture metering with 21 zone SPC
Spot metering
E-TTL II
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Weather sealed body+mount
Click to expand...
 
Really?

I have never sat down to really understand how it works - so even if I only have center point selected in al servo, it would be able to track the subject better?

Duncan
TenDee said:
M5Laser

45 focus zones would make AI Focus or AI Servo be able to track a
moving subject better.

I would upgrade from the 10D for 45 zones.

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Pat
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No, when using AI Servo you shoudl have all points activated. In theory, the camera originally locks using the centre point the monitors the others for movement (something like that anyway).

Chuck Westfall posted an excellent description a while ago on Rob Galbraith...

So, having 45 points for AI Servo would be a major plus.

Phil
M5Laser said:
I have never sat down to really understand how it works - so even
if I only have center point selected in al servo, it would be able
to track the subject better?

Duncan
TenDee said:
M5Laser

45 focus zones would make AI Focus or AI Servo be able to track a
moving subject better.

I would upgrade from the 10D for 45 zones.

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Pat
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Let me start by saying, I find this latest rumour more then hard to believe – and not for lack of wanting it to be true. Well all except for the polycarbonate body. I'ld happily pay a few hundred more for mag alloy. :)

Heres my question regardless of these claims. Would any new body based on the DIGIC II processor have 'instant-on' startup times?

PS/

And R,G,B Histograms?

Thanks.
 
If this info were for real there would be not reason not to post the picture, because if he were under NDA he has already broken it.
photosniper said:
Only the changes/improvements will be posted everything else is the
same
I will be posting a picture tonight of the new 10D Mk II
1.6x 6.3mp sensor
DIGIC II Processor
Advanced WB image sensor
4fps/20JPEG BUFFER (10 RAW)
0-18EV AF focus range
45point AF
TTL full aperture metering with 21 zone SPC
Spot metering
E-TTL II
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Weather sealed body+mount
Click to expand...
 
Hilary said:
Let me start by saying, I find this latest rumour more then hard to
believe – and not for lack of wanting it to be true. Well all
except for the polycarbonate body. I'ld happily pay a few hundred
more for mag alloy. :)

Heres my question regardless of these claims. Would any new body
based on the DIGIC II processor have 'instant-on' startup times?

PS/

And R,G,B Histograms?

Thanks.
Click to expand...
 
Paul Sumi said:
And with all the alledged improvements and upgrades, why take a big
step backwards in buiild quality?

Weather sealing a polycarbonate body? Yeah, right.

There may be a Mk II coming, but I don't think this is it.
photosniper said:
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
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Make photographs, not equipment lists!
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I stand corrected. But you still have to admit, this would be unlikely for a 10D MkII.
tlinn said:
Paul Sumi said:
And with all the alledged improvements and upgrades, why take a big
step backwards in buiild quality?

Weather sealing a polycarbonate body? Yeah, right.

There may be a Mk II coming, but I don't think this is it.
photosniper said:
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Click to expand...
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Make photographs, not equipment lists!
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
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Make photographs, not equipment lists!
 
photosniper said:
Only the changes/improvements will be posted everything else is the
same
I will be posting a picture tonight of the new 10D Mk II
1.6x 6.3mp sensor
DIGIC II Processor
Advanced WB image sensor
4fps/20JPEG BUFFER (10 RAW)
0-18EV AF focus range
45point AF
TTL full aperture metering with 21 zone SPC
Spot metering
E-TTL II
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Weather sealed body+mount
Click to expand...
This looks pretty reasonable to me: the Magnesium body was too expensive to produce, so they make a cheaper polycarbonate body. Why not.

So, it looks like Canon is sticking to the 1.6 crop for the "not-professional" line(s), which also makes sense to me and was my guess, too. It's very likely that the 10D MkII will be EF-S compatible (any info on this?).

NOW: in this case Canon MUST bring out a new EF-S lens with really good optical quality AND good build, something like a 10-20/f4. Any rumors on such a lens?

--Jens--
 
photosniper said:
Only the changes/improvements will be posted everything else is the
same
I will be posting a picture tonight of the new 10D Mk II
1.6x 6.3mp sensor
DIGIC II Processor
Advanced WB image sensor
4fps/20JPEG BUFFER (10 RAW)
0-18EV AF focus range
45point AF
TTL full aperture metering with 21 zone SPC
Spot metering
E-TTL II
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Weather sealed body+mount
Click to expand...
I hope that this is true. If so it will keep me from buying a D70.

The 45 point AF would be amazing on a 1.6 x sensor. Just as the 1D with 1.3 multiplier focuses a bit quicker than the 1Ds with full frame. Basically the 45 points will cover the whole viewing area.

Also keep in mind that the 45 point AF system makes more advanced X type focusing arrays when you use a 2.8f or better lens.

The AF performance of a 10D isn't even in the same ball park as a 1D with 45 point AF. As a person who doesn't need 8.5fps, 4 fps seems like a pretty good compromise.

Weather sealing would be good and make another reason to buy sealed L lenses.

E-TTL II is another great addition. Now all the newer lenses sending their lenght back to the camera will get better exposure control. Many Pro's said that the improved flash abilities in the 1D Mk II would be enough reason to buy that camera alone.

Once again, I don't know whether to believe this or not, but if it is true and Canon can keep it priced reasonably, I'll buy it even with a 1.6 multiplier.
 
JoeSchmoe said:
As for the sensor, 6.3 MP makes sense., The lower resolution will
help differentiate it from the 1D Mark II once that starts dropping
in price. Yes, I know the 1D Mark II has a metal pro body, but
some amateurs and even pros would prefer a lighter, less bulky
body, even if it won't survive a war. Image quality should still
be outstanding, as should noise signature.

Perhaps not enough to justify an upgrade from current 10D owners,
but for the many (including me) in the market for a DSLR, this will
create a tough (but desirable) choice vis-a-vis the D70.

All this, of course, assuming photosniper's info is reliable.
photosniper said:
Only the changes/improvements will be posted everything else is the
same
I will be posting a picture tonight of the new 10D Mk II
1.6x 6.3mp sensor
DIGIC II Processor
Advanced WB image sensor
4fps/20JPEG BUFFER (10 RAW)
0-18EV AF focus range
45point AF
TTL full aperture metering with 21 zone SPC
Spot metering
E-TTL II
Polycarbonate body instead of Magnesium Alloy
Weather sealed body+mount
Click to expand...
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http://www.pbase.com/joeschmoe
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Here is why.. DavidP often spoke about the AF sensor size as being a problem with the 10D which wasn't a problem with the Rebel 2000 or Elan 7 film bodies simply because they were overlaid on a much larger film frame rather than a 1.6 FOV CMOS sensor......which I argued with him up and down until I realized after comparing my film bodies to my 10D and seeing that the smaller sensor size on my film bodies was in fact more accurate in real life situations ...such as focusing on a model's eyes, the film body's AF sensor at normal portrait working distance was more accurate than the sensor of my 10D was!

I hope that the next 10DMkII (if there is such a thing which I doubt will have the above specs) will have a refined 45 point AF system..one that isn't that same size found in the 1V, 3, 1D, 1DII....but made for the 1.6 sized sensor size.......rather than just swapping a part made for another camera.

JP

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Jens wrote "This looks pretty reasonable to me: the Magnesium body was too expensive to produce, so they make a cheaper polycarbonate body. Why not.

Proberbly would have something to do with already being tooled up to produce the magnesium body and the expense of all that has to be spread over as much production as possible - as the 1D/1Ds/!DMkII have kept the same body,the D30 and D60 shared the same body as well. Makes for economic suicide if you throw away development costs.

Paul
 
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