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Eligible:

3pts Jeannne – JLN … A really fine picture, great composition, feeling of depth and expression caught just right
2pts Cold Thing – Shutter … Marvelous
2pts My Beauty – Robert Bruce … Great lighting and composition.

2pts The Photographer – p forister … Funny and sweet image, really got my attention
1pt Security Blanket – A A Michael … A charming moment, well captured

Honorable Mention:

Pops – Pops
Jordan – Scott Hopkins
Round the Corner – Rob McGlade
Is that me – Alekas
Birthday Girl – Weyhan
All Photos – Rahul Duffa

Exhibition:

3 pts Rainy – Olaf … Simply a great image
2 pts On the phone – Earl Ward … Great composition and use of depth

2 pts My new friend -- Ann Chaikin … Superb color contrast and teriffic frame-within-frame
2 pt Kodak Moment – Joe Riley … It sure is!
1 pt Blue Ribbon Quilter – Pops … Super environmental portrait

Honorable Mentions:

Cowboy – Tim Dahl
Self-Portrait – Santos
Kodak Moment – Joe Riley
Hmmmmmm – Frank Bayley
Katja – J Truillo
 
Fill flash maybe? Although I like using it for outdoor portraits, it does tend to make the skin colours slightly different. Also, the photos were taken in the evening, when the light can change within seconds.

Here is another pic, taken at about the same time in the evening but totally different lighting conditions (overcast sky). Different colours here too:

http://www.pbase.com/image/25540751

Gayle
Victor Engel said:
Gayle said:
Victor Engel said:
In the Playground by Gayle
I like this shot alot, except for the excessive lipstick. On the
other hand, maybe that's part of what makes this particular girl
herself.
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Hahahaha, Victor, she's only 9 years old! She doesn't wear
lipstick....that's just her natural self.
If you have a look at "Summer Sky" it's the exact same kid...the
shots were taken just minutes apart....and she has the exact same
colour lips in that one too. Definitely no lipstick....I'm her mum
and I wouldn't allow it.

Gayle

http://members.iinet.net.au/~gayle_knowles/
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Hi, Roberta, the Fuji forum runs with anonymous entries.
It would be much easier than their system to set up.
I envisage everyone submitting an entry and maybe taking a number.
the trust system would have to be applied at the end of the challenge.
Woops ! dinner calls i will finish this later .
Roberta F. said:
nic,
I agree with your idea of having anonymous entries. Do you know of
any challenges that have a format for anonymous entries? I'd like
the names attached after the voting. It would be very interesting
to vote on the images without knowing who created them. Just like
the teachers who graded the papers without knowing who wrote the
piece until after the evaluation was complete. I think there is
something to be said for this format.

Roberta
http://www.pbase.com/roberta
Canon 10D, Canon A80, Sony 717, Olympus C-3000, Nikon FMa
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At work, we participate in architectural contests quite often. These are usually done anonymously. Here's how it is done: A number of our own choice is put on the submitted material. An envelope containing the translation between the number and our identity is sent to a third party. Applied to these challenges, it could be done like this:

For each image submitted the submitter chooses a unique number as an ID. This number and "real" ID is emailed to the host. Host reveals the real identities after voting.
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Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
I would take you to task there Karl.
The gallery should not be called Exhibition in the first place.
It should be called Open because that is exactly what it is.
And by definition it should be harder to win than the Eligible.

Also it is meant for those who do not want to host the next challenge and I personally would limit the entries to a similar time frame as the Eligible!
Karl Palsson said:
Challenge Length:
I think this challenge was too long.

Voting Period:
When the challenge is done, for two days. weekends or not doesn't
bother me.

After putting these together, it came to my attention that I had
picked three Alekas pics. shrugs Wasn't really expecting to
keep picking out ones by the same person :)

Eligible Gallery
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1 Siblings by Vikas
2 The plum faced kid, by Steve Winnard
2 A little of what you fancy does you good by Peter Woods
2 Round the corner, by Rob McGlade
3 First sign of life, by Alekas

Hon Mention
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A Moment Alone by Andrew Huth
Is that me, by Alekas
Are you sure, by Alekas
Me, by Dale

The What the hell category
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Orange Crush, by paper tiger.

Exhibition
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No votes for exhibition. votes for eligible, exhibition should
just be for exhibition, in my mind :)

Cheers,
Karl P
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I am sure some simple method could be worked out.

it definately would not mean every entry having to bombard the convenor with emails but it would mean at the end of the challenge that the place getters would have to submitt their I.D. via email address and I am sure that any disputes regarding whom owns what could be sorted out quite quickly .I would reckon the best way could be to have the original complete with details sent to the convenor.

lets face it most images go through some processing, so submitting the original would not be that difficult?
Olaf.dk said:
At work, we participate in architectural contests quite often.
These are usually done anonymously. Here's how it is done: A number
of our own choice is put on the submitted material. An envelope
containing the translation between the number and our identity is
sent to a third party. Applied to these challenges, it could be
done like this:

For each image submitted the submitter chooses a unique number as
an ID. This number and "real" ID is emailed to the host. Host
reveals the real identities after voting.
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

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Olaf.dk said:
ELIGIBLE:

4 pts Homeless..... by Vikas ( http://www.pbase.com/image/25480409 )
  • I am really impressed with your work in general and this portrait
in particular. Life has had its toll on this man, but he still has
his pride and humor. It is all there for me to read in his face!
Technically top-notch, as always from you.

2 pts Blue Me by j trujillo ( http://www.pbase.com/image/25022179 )
  • Technically top-notch. Perfect compositon, dramatic lighting,
amazing for a self-portrait!

2 pts My Beauty by Robert Bruce ( http://www.pbase.com/image/25098102 )
  • My judgment on this is probably affected by the beauty of your
beauty, but I like this one a lot. The colorful scarf adds
personality to the subject. Nice use of empty space.

2 pts Peek by Angela Johnson ( http://www.pbase.com/image/25181474 )
  • In my comments I said that, as a portrait, I liked "Shy" better,
but I have changed my mind, this one has more character! Still
think this one is the one that should have been entitled "Shy".

HONORABLE MENTIONS (in alphabetical order):
A little of what you fancy does you good* by Peter Woods – – Great
capture, expressive!
A Moment Alone* by Andrew Huth – – Great compo, light, exposure and
selective focus!
Bonding by Roberta – – Heart-warming moment caught!
Creature of the Night by Joe Reilly – – Great capture, expressive!
Darkness and myself. By Andreas Overland – – Dramatic lighting and
exposure!
Drew* by Andrew Huth – – Nice B/W work!
Gaze* Michael Moses – – Creative close-up!
Head and shoulders* by Craig – – Original vantage point, nice capture!
In the Playground* by Gayle – – Nice and simple, good use of
fill-flash!
It's in the eyes by Tom Marvin – – Eye catching!
Jeanne* by JLN – – Interesting!
My father. By Andreas Overland – – Nice and flattering portrait!
On Ice Jim Fuglestad (Shutter) – – Excellent shot, but stretching
the theme.
P.I.P. (Picture in Picture)* by Lonnit Rysher – – Creative!
Profile with Grass Mat* by j trujillo – – Interesting effect and
lighting!
Sara by Grant Hamilton – – Shows character!
Sara Sitting by Grant Hamilton – – Shows character!
Selfportrait In Black & White – – Well done!
Shy by Angela Johnson – – Still a great image!
Speechless by Ian Chappell – – Creative, expressive!
Summer Sky * by Gayle – – Nice, simple and colorful!

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Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

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Regards, Vikas Malhotra
http://www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=15086
 
Victor Engel said:
5 pts. Little Girl, Dad's Hand by Susan B
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Victor,

Thank you so much for recognizing this unconventional portrait image of the little girl. I'm very honored.

Susan
Victor Engel said:
3 pts. vera by vera
2 pts. Hands and Feet by Shutter

Honorable mentions:
1st Time by Rob
Blue Ribbon Quilter by Pops
emma in leaves by steveho
Irish Sunlight by Chris McG
Love and Happiness by Louis Tremblay
Love of My Life by Ann Chaikin
Me by Scott Hopkins
morose by Tim Arnold
Mother and Child Reunion by Joe Reilly
myvotes.txt
taz by John Brain
Wheeeee by Tom Last
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nic copolla said:
I am sure some simple method could be worked out.
it definately would not mean every entry having to bombard the
convenor with emails
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Yeah, I thought about that too, after I had posted above. Maybe a unique number for each participant (instead of each photo), and maybe only the eligible gallery needs to be anonymous?

What about the comments though? Would they have to remain anonymous as well? At least if the submitter replies to comments on his/her photos, it would have to be anonymously.

Hmm, I don't know what to think of this anonymous stuff...
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Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
Can I be 007? Can I? Can I?

Seriously though, I'd love to see anonymous entries. It makes the playing field a bit more level....and I have a theory.

My theory is that the "better known" photographers (for want of a better term) get more attention simply by putting their name in the title. It makes one click on the thumbnail for a closer look, whereas the newcomers or lesser known people may simply get a passing glance and a lot of the time, the thumbnail doesn't do justice to the bigger picture.

Also, I think comments left may be more honest and maybe more constructive. So far I have refrained from leaving any comments in this challenge, although I am a "super-comment maker" in the CTF challenge.

The reason being is that I am very new to SLR photography and don't feel I have a lot to offer those who have more experince than me. Maybe if I didn't know who took the photo, I would be more inclined to comment.

One more thought.....it might very well make those who have a definite style, step outside the square and develop in different areas, just to keep the rest of us guessing! (And some of us are gonna have to find different kids to photograph!)

Gayle
Olaf.dk said:
nic copolla said:
I am sure some simple method could be worked out.
it definately would not mean every entry having to bombard the
convenor with emails
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Yeah, I thought about that too, after I had posted above. Maybe a
unique number for each participant (instead of each photo), and
maybe only the eligible gallery needs to be anonymous?

What about the comments though? Would they have to remain anonymous
as well? At least if the submitter replies to comments on his/her
photos, it would have to be anonymously.

Hmm, I don't know what to think of this anonymous stuff...
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Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

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We didn't have time to look at many of the pics. in detail, so have voted based on the thumbnails. I know this isn't fair, since many photos have fine detail that isn't seen in the thumbnails. Our shortlist had at least 20 in it, and many more great photos left out.

Eligible

3 pts Peek by Angela Johnson
2 pts Cold thing by Jim Fuglestad
2 Pts Little Red by ??
2 pts Pops by Pops
1 pt Little brother by Roberta

Hon. Men.

Inner Light, Gayle
Eyes by Denise Wall
Round the corner by ?
Like father, like son by Rahul Dutter

Referendum
(a) 3
(b) 2
 
3 pts Peek by Angela Johnson
3 pts Homeless.....by Vikas
2 pts Shallow by iso3200
2 pts Jeanne by JLN

arra
Poland
 
Roberta F. said:
nic,
I agree with your idea of having anonymous entries. Do you know of
any challenges that have a format for anonymous entries?
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http://DPChallenge.com

All entries are anonymous and are revealed when voting is completed. Their website was designed that way.

If the CSLR Challenge wants anonymous entries perhaps the best solution is a dedicated hosting/voting site that can handle it. Does one exist now? Not to my knowledge.

BTW, the more I'm involved with the challenges the more I feel that anonymous entries is deisrable.

Pops

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pops.instantlogic.com
'Remember, the wind is your friend!'
 
I don't get this. As long as voting for each gallery is separate, each is just as easy to win. Odds of winning are a function of how many entries there are, statistically, and it's not obvious which gallery will tend to get more entries.

Perhaps you mean the Exhibition gallery is harder to win because any picture in the Eligible gallery could also be in the Exhibition gallery. I'd counter that just because it could doesn't mean it is.

Or maybe I just missed the point.
nic copolla said:
Karl Palsson said:
Challenge Length:
I think this challenge was too long.

Voting Period:
When the challenge is done, for two days. weekends or not doesn't
bother me.

After putting these together, it came to my attention that I had
picked three Alekas pics. shrugs Wasn't really expecting to
keep picking out ones by the same person :)

Eligible Gallery
~~~~~~~~
1 Siblings by Vikas
2 The plum faced kid, by Steve Winnard
2 A little of what you fancy does you good by Peter Woods
2 Round the corner, by Rob McGlade
3 First sign of life, by Alekas

Hon Mention
~~~~~~~~
A Moment Alone by Andrew Huth
Is that me, by Alekas
Are you sure, by Alekas
Me, by Dale

The What the hell category
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Orange Crush, by paper tiger.

Exhibition
~~~~~~
No votes for exhibition. votes for eligible, exhibition should
just be for exhibition, in my mind :)

Cheers,
Karl P
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I hate to cut off the discussion, but the Voting Thread is rapidly getting filled with non-voting posts. We are rapidly approaching 150 posts, and we need to reserve room for remaining votes and any related follow-ups (e.g. clarifying questions from me, incorrect votes, etc). I ask that this discussion be taken to a different thread.

Thanks,
Joe
JoanK said:
Joan Kunter

http://www.pbase.com/joank
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http://www.pbase.com/misterpix
 
I hate to cut off the lines of discussion, but the Voting Thread is rapidly getting filled with non-voting posts. We are swiftly approaching 150 posts, and we need to reserve room for remaining votes and any related follow-ups (e.g. clarifying questions from me, incorrect votes, etc). I ask that tangential discussions and 1:1 comments (e.g. thanks) be taken to another thread or another vehicle (e.g. email).

Again, I hate to cut off reasonable dialogue, but the thread is filling up and this is making it very difficult for me (and Denise Wall, my friendly auditor) to track in-bound votes.

Thanks,
Joe
 
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