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Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I get.

I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.

SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
 
First, if you want a good monitor profiler try the Greytag McBeth Eye One Display. It sells for about $230 and comes with a $200 bonus coupon for th Eye one Photo ($1,300.00). I have the Eye One Photos and my daughter has the Eye One Display. They seem to work equally well for monitor profiling.

However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints" and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles (monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
 
Thanks !
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
 
I've tried a few quicky profiling programs and the ColorVision spyder. My conclusion is that nothing is dead on since all devices are different. Nothing on a screen can look exactly like a print since the screen is shooting light at you and the print is reflecting light at you.

I just got to know my setup and predict how the prints will turn out when I see them on my monitor.
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
 
Mike Elman:

w4npx: I just got the Eye One Photo and I was was wondering when you first print the color chart that is supplied, what color settings do you use. I have an Epson 2200 and I turned color management off and set it to the paper type I was using and automatic. Is this right or wrong. Thanks
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
Mike55
 
Mike, I suspect that when you set to automatic, that you are doing automatic color correction and that would be wrong. You want to print the targets with no color management, no profiles and no correction of any kind.

Since I have an Epson 1280 and not the 2200, my driver is different that yours, so I cannot really say, but I suspect that automatic needs to be turned off.

I do not print mine directly form Eye One Match 2.03a, but rather print it through photoshop. When I come into photoshop, I direct it to leave the file untagged. Then I print with Preview and the source space is untagged, and I leave the printer space, "same as source"

Then I go in and pick my paper, dpi, microweave on, high speed off (althought I have some slower dpi's profiles set with high speed on), No color management and I print.

Hope that helps.

Bob
w4npx: I just got the Eye One Photo and I was was wondering when
you first print the color chart that is supplied, what color
settings do you use. I have an Epson 2200 and I turned color
management off and set it to the paper type I was using and
automatic. Is this right or wrong. Thanks
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
Mike55
--
Bob
 
I'm also interested in the eye one display or eye one photo, however, my monitor, a Sony 17" Trinitron does not have individual RGB gun controls, will either of the eye one products still be able to do a first rate job of profiling my monitor?
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
 
Stanley, Both the eye one photo and eye one display allow you to choose between just setting a generic whitepoint set by the monitor, or getting there by setting separate color guns, so either way you are oK.

Bob
I'm also interested in the eye one display or eye one photo,
however, my monitor, a Sony 17" Trinitron does not have individual
RGB gun controls, will either of the eye one products still be able
to do a first rate job of profiling my monitor?
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
--
Bob
 
Mike Elman Wrote: I just printed out a target according your Photoshop instructions. I'm going to let it dry for a couple of hours. I find that the Eye One device leaves a trail on the target if you don't let the target dry properly. Thanks for your help, Mike
Since I have an Epson 1280 and not the 2200, my driver is different
that yours, so I cannot really say, but I suspect that automatic
needs to be turned off.

I do not print mine directly form Eye One Match 2.03a, but rather
print it through photoshop. When I come into photoshop, I direct
it to leave the file untagged. Then I print with Preview and the
source space is untagged, and I leave the printer space, "same as
source"

Then I go in and pick my paper, dpi, microweave on, high speed off
(althought I have some slower dpi's profiles set with high speed
on), No color management and I print.

Hope that helps.

Bob
w4npx: I just got the Eye One Photo and I was was wondering when
you first print the color chart that is supplied, what color
settings do you use. I have an Epson 2200 and I turned color
management off and set it to the paper type I was using and
automatic. Is this right or wrong. Thanks
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
Mike55
--
Bob
--
Mike55
 
Any recommendations on a good place to get the Eye-One right now?

thanks,
kaiyen
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
http://www.pbase.com/romosoho (not much there yet)
 
Mike, you want to let your target prints dry for longer than three hours, not because th eye one spectrophotometer marks or dents them, but because the colors will change over a longer period than that.

If you are using epson Premium Gloss paper, you will find that the reds are very accentuated for a long period and fade away to their normal color after more than 24 hours. Just let a print dry for a couple of days and compare it to the same print fresh out of the printer and you will see.

With slow drying papers such as Ilford Galerie Pearl or Epson Colorlife, the ink itself remains wet for around three days.

As a rule I will not make a scan of a target for at least 24 hours, or longer depending on the paper.

Also, on marking by the eye one on the paper target. I usually place a piece of smooth paper under the rear feet of the eye one and slide it down the paper over the already finished patches as the device moves deeper and deeper into the numbered rows in order to protect the target.

I also label each target as to exactly how it was printed and I name my profile with something to tie it to that target and the parameters that were set for its printing, such as 1440, 720, (2 target) etc.

Bob
Since I have an Epson 1280 and not the 2200, my driver is different
that yours, so I cannot really say, but I suspect that automatic
needs to be turned off.

I do not print mine directly form Eye One Match 2.03a, but rather
print it through photoshop. When I come into photoshop, I direct
it to leave the file untagged. Then I print with Preview and the
source space is untagged, and I leave the printer space, "same as
source"

Then I go in and pick my paper, dpi, microweave on, high speed off
(althought I have some slower dpi's profiles set with high speed
on), No color management and I print.

Hope that helps.

Bob
w4npx: I just got the Eye One Photo and I was was wondering when
you first print the color chart that is supplied, what color
settings do you use. I have an Epson 2200 and I turned color
management off and set it to the paper type I was using and
automatic. Is this right or wrong. Thanks
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
Mike55
--
Bob
--
Mike55
--
Bob
 
Try Colormall
http://www.colormall.com/category.asp?SID=1&Category_ID=69

Ecolortools

http://www.ecolortools.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=14386&cat=8&PHPSESSID=37251c8aade7e372110df0aa0480e37b

Galleryprint
http://www.galleryprint.com/hardware/gretag/eyeone.php

If you get the eye one photo, you do not need the UV model. If you get Eye One Display, you do not need the Profilemaker Pro upgrade. Also the eye one photo comes with a neat free program that allows you to measure any color off a paint chip, picture, or anything you can place the device on, then apply your photoshop working space to the color, and it gives you exact RGB colors that will produce this color in photoshop. As a result for instance, I can scan a grey card in my scanner along with a photo, and then in photoshop adjust that gray card to the same RGB colors I had from the Eye One Share program, and get very exact color in my scan.

Bob
thanks,
kaiyen
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
http://www.pbase.com/romosoho (not much there yet)
--
Bob
 
Mike Elman wrote:

Thanks again for all your help. I'm letting my targey dry until tomorrow evening. I'm am getting closer to getting correct color on the 2200. On my last attempt which left a trail on the target the colors were right, but it was just alittle darker than the monitor. Does heat affect the color since I have have a drymount press and want to mount the prints. A drymount press uses about 200 degrees for about 40 seconds to glue the print to the board. Thanks again Mike
If you are using epson Premium Gloss paper, you will find that the
reds are very accentuated for a long period and fade away to their
normal color after more than 24 hours. Just let a print dry for a
couple of days and compare it to the same print fresh out of the
printer and you will see.

With slow drying papers such as Ilford Galerie Pearl or Epson
Colorlife, the ink itself remains wet for around three days.

As a rule I will not make a scan of a target for at least 24 hours,
or longer depending on the paper.

Also, on marking by the eye one on the paper target. I usually
place a piece of smooth paper under the rear feet of the eye one
and slide it down the paper over the already finished patches as
the device moves deeper and deeper into the numbered rows in order
to protect the target.

I also label each target as to exactly how it was printed and I
name my profile with something to tie it to that target and the
parameters that were set for its printing, such as 1440, 720, (2
target) etc.

Bob
Since I have an Epson 1280 and not the 2200, my driver is different
that yours, so I cannot really say, but I suspect that automatic
needs to be turned off.

I do not print mine directly form Eye One Match 2.03a, but rather
print it through photoshop. When I come into photoshop, I direct
it to leave the file untagged. Then I print with Preview and the
source space is untagged, and I leave the printer space, "same as
source"

Then I go in and pick my paper, dpi, microweave on, high speed off
(althought I have some slower dpi's profiles set with high speed
on), No color management and I print.

Hope that helps.

Bob
w4npx: I just got the Eye One Photo and I was was wondering when
you first print the color chart that is supplied, what color
settings do you use. I have an Epson 2200 and I turned color
management off and set it to the paper type I was using and
automatic. Is this right or wrong. Thanks
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
--
Bob
--
Mike55
--
Bob
--
Mike55
--
Bob
--
Mike55
 
Bob
I'm also interested in the eye one display or eye one photo,
however, my monitor, a Sony 17" Trinitron does not have individual
RGB gun controls, will either of the eye one products still be able
to do a first rate job of profiling my monitor?
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
In another thread you suggest staying away from flat screen monitors that do not have control of color guns. My monitor is a flat screen CRT with no RGB gun controls as I mentioned earlier. Does this mean that I will not have as good a profile, will my calibration be less accurate?

I have control of the color temperature where I can set it to other than 9300K or 5000K values, as well as contrast and brightness controls.
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
 
Stanley, not 100 percent sure, but I believe that you are stuck with the white point settings that the monitor sets for you and cannot choose specific whitepoint values and adjust exactly to them. In otherwords, you can get close with no color guns to adjust, but I am not sure since I have little knowledge of the workings of an LCD screen other than the fact that it does not have color guns. In short, you will get an acceptable profile, but probably not as exact as you would with color guns to adjust.

Bob
Bob
I'm also interested in the eye one display or eye one photo,
however, my monitor, a Sony 17" Trinitron does not have individual
RGB gun controls, will either of the eye one products still be able
to do a first rate job of profiling my monitor?
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
In another thread you suggest staying away from flat screen
monitors that do not have control of color guns. My monitor is a
flat screen CRT with no RGB gun controls as I mentioned earlier.
Does this mean that I will not have as good a profile, will my
calibration be less accurate?
I have control of the color temperature where I can set it to other
than 9300K or 5000K values, as well as contrast and brightness
controls.
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
--
Bob
 
Mike,

if you are talking about dry mounting the final prints made with a profile, I would not expect a color shift if the prints are fully dry before you heat them with the press. However, I would not dry mount the printed targets.

As far as being darker than the monitor, assuming that the monitor is correctly profiled, when you do a soft proof in photoshop (and you always should do a soft proof) you usually find that the soft proof is lighter and less contrastier than the non soft proofed. I understand that this is caused by the fact that the profile is showing you that the print will look slightly lighter when placed on paper than it does on the monitor. I usually just take about 2 or 3 points off the center of the curve (drag it down) in photoshop to get the soft proof to look like the monitor did before you soft proofed it. Also make sure that you are using either Relative Colormetric or Perceptual Intent on printing, and not Absolute Colormetric.

Also use Black Point compensation in the Print with Preview Box.

Bob
Mike Elman wrote:
Thanks again for all your help. I'm letting my targey dry until
tomorrow evening. I'm am getting closer to getting correct color on
the 2200. On my last attempt which left a trail on the target the
colors were right, but it was just alittle darker than the monitor.
Does heat affect the color since I have have a drymount press and
want to mount the prints. A drymount press uses about 200 degrees
for about 40 seconds to glue the print to the board. Thanks again
Mike
 
Bob
Bob
I'm also interested in the eye one display or eye one photo,
however, my monitor, a Sony 17" Trinitron does not have individual
RGB gun controls, will either of the eye one products still be able
to do a first rate job of profiling my monitor?
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
In another thread you suggest staying away from flat screen
monitors that do not have control of color guns. My monitor is a
flat screen CRT with no RGB gun controls as I mentioned earlier.
Does this mean that I will not have as good a profile, will my
calibration be less accurate?
I have control of the color temperature where I can set it to other
than 9300K or 5000K values, as well as contrast and brightness
controls.
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
--
Bob
My monitor is a CRT flat screen not an LCD. In other words, not like the older ones that had quite a pronounced curve on the front. I should'nt have confused the issue by say it's a flat screen.

So my original question refers to a CRT monitor which has an adjustable white point, contrast and brightness controls.
Thanks for your help on this matter.
Regards,
--
Stanley S.
 
Stanley, sorry I misunderstood you.

You should get a good profile, depending on whether the guns are set properly in your monitor. With a CRT it does not make any difference whether it is flat screen--mine is-- or old rounded screen-- my other one is. Both my monitors have adjustable color guns so that I do not have to rely on the fact that the guns are properly adjusted to the temperature that the native white point of the monitor says they are. In otherwords you will get a good profile if the monitor setting correctly reflects the temperature they claim. You would get a perfect setting if you could adjust the individual color guns. To a certain extent I am guessing when I say this because I have settings on my monitor besides the ability to control the color guns individually. I have not taken the trouble to try to calibrate my monitor with just the color temp settings and not the guns, so I dont know how far it would be off if I tried. I do know that with a setting of 6500K on my monitor, I have to substantially adjust the Red and Green guns off of normal to get to my chosentemperature.

Sorry, I cannot give you a better answer, but one of these days i will try to calibrate my monitor without adjusting the color guns, leaving them all in their 50% equal RGB state.

I think my original post was directed to LCD screens.
 
Not sure if this price is actually still valid, but I found a link using froogle.com to a "show special" at B&H for the Eye One display at $199. I ordered one myself and got a receipt from B&H but it has not shipped yet. If you search for this from the B&H home page you only get their standard $250 price. Only time will tell if they will honor this price, but the difference is worth a try if they do honor it. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=ShowProduct&index=Y&kw=MWSF0608&Q=&O=&sku=309785

John
thanks,
kaiyen
However, you complained that "colors are not dead spot on prints"
and you are not going to get spot on colors on prints unless you
can also produce or purchase printer profiles for the paper and ink
you are using.

Generic profiles, like the ones you get from Epson with your print
driver are usually close, but never right on the money, and some
are in fact way off the mark. Thus you need to get a printer
profiling system or get one of the various companies to make you
profiles from targets which you print on yoru printer. Purchased
profiles seem to be in the $50-$100 range per profile. I have the
eye one Photo which does a good job on making printer profiles
(monitor too) and I am not sorry I got it. It really works great.

Bob
Do you guys know which monitor profiling is the best for the money
while still having a good quality?
I just bought Spyder Photocal and am not very happy with results I
get.
I have a good monitor Sony 21" E 520 and it is a brand new yet my
colors are not dead spot on prints when I compare them the to the
monitor.
I use new Olympus P-440 which is suposed to be good too.
SO my question is this: Should I return a Spyder and buy something
better or it is my problem with the monitor ( for some reason I can
not get luiminance in between 85 and 95 range I get like 83 the
most no matter how hard I try to play with RGB).
Could you give some good sound advice?
Thanks in advance!
10D, Epson 2200, Olympus p-440
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Bob
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http://www.pbase.com/romosoho (not much there yet)
 
most appreciated. If you ever have a chance to experiment, please post your findings, I will be watching for your post. In the mean time, if I learn anything more, I will post as well.
Best regards
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Stanley S.
 

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