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Hi, the two "problems" that you mention are pretty common if you
read this forum alot.
montana said:
1. the auto mode is overexposed
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Learn to use the P mode , get used to using program shift, and
exposure compensation, I also seem to get more consistant results by
setting it up to use only the center focus point.
montana183004 said:
2. in door pic with flash under exposed
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This is one of the most debated subjects on this forum, The only reliable
answer is either use the freeware FEC utility (set it to +2/3) or buy
an external flash. In the long run you will probably only be happy with
the external flash.

The biggest problem that I have with the Rebel is that it makes me spend
too much money! :-)

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I have a sigma 70-200 2.8 that I need for indoor low light no flash photos. I am thankful that canon released this camera becouse now I can afford to take the pictures of on kids indoor sports. On the other hand I took about 200 pictures during Christmas and about 40 were really good. could have been me but the flash had a lot to do with it.
ChrisKrueger said:
Why would you buy a 300D if you were only going to shoot auto mode,
anyway? That's like buying an SUV and then driving it around on
the highway all the time. Oh, wait... :/

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newshooter said:
I have a sigma 70-200 2.8 that I need for indoor low light no flash
photos. I am thankful that canon released this camera becouse now I
can afford to take the pictures of on kids indoor sports. On the
other hand I took about 200 pictures during Christmas and about 40
were really good. could have been me but the flash had a lot to do
with it.
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Really? I took 200 pictures as well and aside from easily-corrected red eye, I'd say about 75% were keepers, counting flash problems, focus problems, and motion blur. I even managed some nice pictures in a completely dark room using the AF assist flash strobe.

The 300D with the kit lens is an EXCELLENT indoor camera IMHO. The shutter lag is very short, the flash recycles fast, and the buffer is more than big enough. There's not a lot more you can ask for! The flash can sometimes be somewhat harsh, but that's just the nature of an internal direct flash.

I'd suggest taking either advantage of the fast flash recycle time and taking LOTS of pictures, or getting an external flash. With an external flash, you'll solve red eye and harsh lighting problems for the most part.
 
on Canon's part. For example, enabling only the "least" stable metering modes on an entry level cam, what were they thinking! Preventing the use of lower ISO in the "sport" mode? Hmmm, I wonder if the back cover of the film rebel opens and spits out the film if it is less than ISO 400 when in sport mode?
montana said:
i have a 300d but i am starting to wonder...
my g5 that i returned didnt have as many problems as this cam
dont get me wrong i do like it
but its starting to p..me off
1. the auto mode is overexposed
2. in door pic with flash under exposed
etc...
would anyone else like to add to this thread PLS DO SO
as everyone will understand that this cam is great in its way
BUT? yes BUT..
pls add your veiws and promblems you have encounted and nead to be
addressed
so everyone will help and make others understand..and help solve
these problems. such as the two i have addressed.
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Jim Coffey said:
My $0.02. I never shoot in auto so it's not a big problem. But
the camera fails the "tourist" test... namely if I hand the camera
to a stranger and ask them to take my picture it's anyone's guess
if it's going to be properly exposed or not. It's a crying shame
that the green box auto mode is not reliable.
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I guess I just I don't see the draw of the auto mode. Personally, I park my 300D at ISO400 and auto WB. If I hand the camera to someone else I'm going to hit the flash button and put it in P. Even when I'm shooting the 300D like a disposable camera, snapping away like a nut, the P mode RARELY fails me.

Does the Auto mode actually expose differently than P mode? If so, why even bother when P mode is just as easy to use?

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I agree 140 were keepers about 40 were really good
ChrisKrueger said:
newshooter said:
I have a sigma 70-200 2.8 that I need for indoor low light no flash
photos. I am thankful that canon released this camera becouse now I
can afford to take the pictures of on kids indoor sports. On the
other hand I took about 200 pictures during Christmas and about 40
were really good. could have been me but the flash had a lot to do
with it.
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Really? I took 200 pictures as well and aside from
easily-corrected red eye, I'd say about 75% were keepers, counting
flash problems, focus problems, and motion blur. I even managed
some nice pictures in a completely dark room using the AF assist
flash strobe.

The 300D with the kit lens is an EXCELLENT indoor camera IMHO. The
shutter lag is very short, the flash recycles fast, and the buffer
is more than big enough. There's not a lot more you can ask for!
The flash can sometimes be somewhat harsh, but that's just the
nature of an internal direct flash.

I'd suggest taking either advantage of the fast flash recycle time
and taking LOTS of pictures, or getting an external flash. With an
external flash, you'll solve red eye and harsh lighting problems
for the most part.
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I must confess that I didn't use auto mode (green box) at all so with all the complaints about auto mode I decided to try it. I took about 38 pictures the 128 meg card was about full. I took the pictures around the house without much reguard for composition some without flash some with the 550 flash and some with the built in flash. Every pix was correctly exposed and the focus was good. I handed the camera to my wife who has little interest in photography on auto and asked her to press halfway on the button then press the rest of the way after the green light comes on. All her pix came out OK also. Maybe my camera is special but I doubt it

reguards
 
montana said:
i have a 300d but i am starting to wonder...
my g5 that i returned didnt have as many problems as this cam
dont get me wrong i do like it
but its starting to p..me off
1. the auto mode is overexposed
2. in door pic with flash under exposed
etc...
would anyone else like to add to this thread PLS DO SO
as everyone will understand that this cam is great in its way
BUT? yes BUT..
pls add your veiws and promblems you have encounted and nead to be
addressed
so everyone will help and make others understand..and help solve
these problems. such as the two i have addressed.
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Steve L
 
I totally agree. The only time I've set it to Auto is when I hand it to somebody else so I can be in the picture.

My only complaints:

1. no spot metering
2. cannot choose auto-focus mode

3. doesn't have an extra wheel to set both Av and Tv -- got too used to this feature on my Elan I guess.

Well these are not really complaints because I already knew it lack these features before I bought it.
jeffshoaf said:
newshooter said:
"All you do is point the camera and press the shutter button.
Everything is automatic so it is easy to photograph any subject.
With seven AF points to focus the subject, anyone can just point
and shoot." Page 38 canon instruction manual. My camera and a
bunch more on this forum do not work as advertised. Why are so
many people defending them by saying just use Program AE? Like a
toaster that doesn't pop up automaticly, Yea it works fine if you
stand there and pop it up manually when you think the toast is just
right. I am starting to understand what I am holding and It is not
a great or even above average camera. First and only other digital
camera I had was a Sony Mavica, looking back at the pictures just
last night and noticed that the flash worked just as good on that
(now antique) camera.
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The manual says it's easy to photograph any subject, but it doesn't
say you'll get a good photgraph... Just kidding!

I think Canon is mis-marketing this camera to a certain degree.
They're advertising it as a point-and-shoot camera with
interchangeable lens instead of an SLR with some p&S capabilities.
I'm not sure it's a very good p&s "snapshot" camera since it only
really starts to shine once you move off the "Basic" pre-programmed
modes.

This suits me fine, since I really didn't want a p&s and I don't
want to take snapshots. I don't think I've put the camera on one of
the program modes since I first took it out of the box! I wanted a
digital SLR, but I couldn't bring myself to pay $1500 for the 10D.
I accept 300D's weak points so that I can get it's strong points.
My complaints about it are the lack of a spot meter and the
inability to manually select the focus mode, but I can live with
those lacks and I actually enjoy finding ways to work around them.

But that's me, and I understand where you're coming from - like I
mentioned earlier, I thing Canon is mis-marketing the camera.
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montana said:
i have a 300d but i am starting to wonder...
my g5 that i returned didnt have as many problems as this cam
dont get me wrong i do like it
but its starting to p..me off
1. the auto mode is overexposed
2. in door pic with flash under exposed
etc...
would anyone else like to add to this thread PLS DO SO
as everyone will understand that this cam is great in its way
BUT? yes BUT..
pls add your veiws and promblems you have encounted and nead to be
addressed
so everyone will help and make others understand..and help solve
these problems. such as the two i have addressed.
Click to expand...
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Blue
http://www.pbase.com/image/7450272
 
newshooter said:
"All you do is point the camera and press the shutter button.
Everything is automatic so it is easy to photograph any subject.
With seven AF points to focus the subject, anyone can just point
and shoot." Page 38 canon instruction manual. My camera and a
bunch more on this forum do not work as advertised. Why are so
many people defending them by saying just use Program AE? Like a
toaster that doesn't pop up automaticly, Yea it works fine if you
stand there and pop it up manually when you think the toast is just
right. I am starting to understand what I am holding and It is not
a great or even above average camera. First and only other digital
camera I had was a Sony Mavica, looking back at the pictures just
last night and noticed that the flash worked just as good on that
(now antique) camera.
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The P mode is the Point&Shoot mode. Even gives you manual flash control. Uses it when I am not in Tv/Av mode. P mode was also my default Point&Shoot mode on the CP 4500.
 
I have a few problems:
  • Camera not flushing images to CF when button half-pressed.
  • Don't have a user-selectable AF-mode (servo etc)
  • CF speed is slow
  • USB speed is slow
  • AWB sucks under my low-energy lightbulbs (must use manual).
  • Kit lense auto-focus ring too lose.
 
The DRebel is a great camera that has been made more difficult to use than it has to be. Yes, I am used to using SLRs (for over 20 years) and EOS SLRs (for over 10 years), and I did not buy the DRebel as a point and shoot. However, the camera has its quirks, and that makes the learning curve far steeper than it needs to be. For that matter, it makes going to another SLR or digital SLR confusing.
For example (in creative modes):
partial metering is only available if using AE lock
center-weighted metering is only available (and the only choice) in M mode

evaluative metering cannot be locked in any intuitive manner (and the DOF preview work-around is not documented in the manual)
internal flash is inconsistent, and generally reliable only if FEL is used

it is all but necessary to use a third party FEC adjustment (why wasn't flash exposure correctly adjusted to begin with?) or buy an external flash

there is no way to select AF servo reliably or turn it off when you don't want it to kick in

Thinking about expsosure adjustments and composition are photography. Having to compensate for the camera overriding those decisions is reverse-engineering. :)

Once one gets used to the things the DRebel is doing (or not doing), it is a fantastic camera. But that takes time.

-Ray

Real Life is Analog
 
"> 5. children gather around me all the time to see the shots I have
caterpillar said:
just taken. I can't take succeeding shots immediately!"
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I agree with your opinions here.

Here's a suggestion to help you maybe justify spending even more money!

When I took pictures at the company Christmas Party using my DR w/28-135 IS, 550EX and BG-E1 (battery drive) one of the IT guys came up to me and said "You being a techy, I would have expected you to be using a DIGITAL camera". Dumbfounded by the remark I pointed out it was a digital camera. It blew his mind. He then pointed out that the BG-E1 looked like a motor drive on a film SLR. Naturally my setup was a bit massive, and it did make it look like a traditional fully blown Professional SLR.

Interesting. If you configured yours like mine, maybe you can use it to your advantage. If people assume you are using film and you do not tell them otherwise they will not think to interfere with you as you continue to shoot. Also, having two batteries on board gave me lots of freedom. I like the grip, although it does transform to camera into a heavier instrument. What is so neat about the DR is that if you run it stock it is featherlight and does a great job. However if you want a little prestigue and look like you have something more substantial you can transform it into a whole nuther animal with flash, lens and battery grip.

Just a thought.
caterpillar said:
1. I can't see the top dials in the dark or dim light. I often
use/change from Av, Tv, or M often. This is due to the difficult
lighting conditions I like to take. Many shots are not "book"
exposures and require customized and personal adjustments.

2. I sometimes leave the WB somewhere else and somtimes get blue
pictures of people because I can't see it in the viewfinder.

3. i sometimes leave the ISO in 800 or 1600 because I can't see it
in the viewfinder. it's ISO 1600 is usable and can be printed at
4x6 with nobody being the wiser. It's ISO 800 can be cleaned with
a PS action or neatimage.

4. it makes me buy lenses and adds to its cost. but it made me take
shots I could never do with the basic lens.

5. children gather around me all the time to see the shots I have
just taken. I can't take succeeding shots immediately!

6. The LCD display can deceive you that the exposure is tad on,
when actually it isn't.

7. The LCD can deceive you to thinking that the shot is tack sharp
in focus, when actually it may not (especially with the 50mm f1.8
mkII at f1.8-2.2).

8. the battery indicator goes half-empty in about 150-200 shots
after full charge then use. But you really never know if it will be
empty with 100-200 or 300 shots to go, or with just 10 more shots.

9. Half pressing the shutter delays the flusing of the picture to
CF. Shooting 3-4 shots and a long pause may make you think the 300D
is saving to CF. But if you are half pressing, this is delayed.

10. it takes correct flash exposures 98% time. I can't understand
why I can't get the same underexposure of other people. Something
must be wrong with my camera.
montana said:
i have a 300d but i am starting to wonder...
my g5 that i returned didnt have as many problems as this cam
dont get me wrong i do like it
but its starting to p..me off
1. the auto mode is overexposed
2. in door pic with flash under exposed
etc...
would anyone else like to add to this thread PLS DO SO
as everyone will understand that this cam is great in its way
BUT? yes BUT..
pls add your veiws and promblems you have encounted and nead to be
addressed
so everyone will help and make others understand..and help solve
these problems. such as the two i have addressed.
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  • Caterpillar
'Always in the process of changing, growing, and transforming.'
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Canon A1 & Canon T-90 w/300TL flash and lots of EF lenses, Canon 300 DR, 28-135 IS, 75-300 IS, 50mm 1.8 II, Kit lens, Smart 1gb CF, Dane-Elec 256mb CF, 550EX, BG-E1
 
Jim Coffey said:
But the camera fails the "tourist" test... namely if I hand the camera
to a stranger and ask them to take my picture it's anyone's guess
if it's going to be properly exposed or not. It's a crying shame
that the green box auto mode is not reliable.
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However, would it pass the tourist thieves test? If you handed the camera to a thief and ask them to take your picture, would he run off with it? :)

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Ray A. Akey
http://gallery.codemain.com/hmetal
 
The problems I'm having with my Rebel are as follows:

My pictures are too good

My assortment of lenses allow me to do too much

My 550EX works with my Rebel too well

My Cf card holds too many pictures

The noise levels in my pictures are too low

I like the silver color too much

I'm enjoying the camera too much

I have been loosing sleep every night since I purchased this camera because I could have spent much more money to get the same quality pictures. I'm sure it will cause my dog to die, my cat to lose its hair, my marriage to fail and it quite possibly had something to do with the fact that it rained yesterday.

Thank heavens we have this forum to voice our frustrations and seek council.

Please help me I just don't know what to do or where to turn!

RLH
 
I have the perfect solution to your problems. Trade it in for a Sony F828. ;-)
Spank me, I am bad.
RLH said:
The problems I'm having with my Rebel are as follows:

My pictures are too good

My assortment of lenses allow me to do too much

My 550EX works with my Rebel too well

My Cf card holds too many pictures

The noise levels in my pictures are too low

I like the silver color too much

I'm enjoying the camera too much

I have been loosing sleep every night since I purchased this camera
because I could have spent much more money to get the same quality
pictures. I'm sure it will cause my dog to die, my cat to lose its
hair, my marriage to fail and it quite possibly had something to
do with the fact that it rained yesterday.

Thank heavens we have this forum to voice our frustrations and seek
council.

Please help me I just don't know what to do or where to turn!

RLH
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hbh said:
hbh said:
just taken. I can't take succeeding shots immediately!"
Click to expand...
I agree with your opinions here.

Here's a suggestion to help you maybe justify spending even more
money!

When I took pictures at the company Christmas Party using my DR
w/28-135 IS, 550EX and BG-E1 (battery drive) one of the IT guys
came up to me and said "You being a techy, I would have expected
you to be using a DIGITAL camera". Dumbfounded by the remark I
pointed out it was a digital camera. It blew his mind. He then
pointed out that the BG-E1 looked like a motor drive on a film SLR.
Naturally my setup was a bit massive, and it did make it look like
a traditional fully blown Professional SLR.

Interesting. If you configured yours like mine, maybe you can use
it to your advantage. If people assume you are using film and you
do not tell them otherwise they will not think to interfere with
you as you continue to shoot. Also, having two batteries on board
gave me lots of freedom. I like the grip, although it does
transform to camera into a heavier instrument. What is so neat
about the DR is that if you run it stock it is featherlight and
does a great job. However if you want a little prestigue and look
like you have something more substantial you can transform it into
a whole nuther animal with flash, lens and battery grip.

Just a thought.
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Thanks for the tip. But it's not the adults that oogle over the camera. It's the children. Maybe it's the silver color. Or maybe, children are more curious than adults. Then they see me (or the reflection on my glasses) looking at the back of the LCD checking out the display, so they start forming around me. Then they see this colorful and sharp pictures of themselves and they smile and go ga-ga!

My 75-300mm IS looks more intimidating when zoomed out. That can catch more attention as far as adults go. Anyway, I expect this to subside. The holiday season is almost over (in our country it ends only after the feast of the 3 kings - Jan 6 or so).

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'Always in the process of changing, growing, and transforming.'
 
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