Challenge 5 Official Thread >> OPPOSITES<<

Olaf,

My "Golden Hour" photo in Challenge 4 also fits the themes of the first three challenges (IMDB lists a 1996 film called "The Golden Hour", even though I've never heard of it), but it doesn't fit Challenge 5. "Life and Death" does, so I've submitted it in Exhibition.

If I had won the previous challenge, the theme I would have chosen for this challenge is "weather." I've submitted a weather-related photo in Eligible.

--Garrett
http://www.pbase.com/garrettlau
Interesting Theme (nt)
iso, I see an opportunity for you to continue in your
super-triathlon-category :-) All you have to do is: make a
composite picture of yourself (challenge 1) being alone and gloomy
on one side and together, having fun with lots of other people on
the other side (challenge 2 and challenge 5, the opposites being
introverted - extroverted or alone - together). Make the gloomy
side of yourself shadowy (challenge 4) and finally find a suiting
film title for the image (challenge 3). You could do it, I know you
could, LOL!

For the rest of us (all us mortals, LOL) here are some opposites
for inspiration:

Open - Closed
Hot - Cold
Up - Down
Huge - tiny (or large and small if you find that more fitting)
Love - Hate
Tight - Loose
Still - Moving
Straight - Curvy or Round
Thick - Thin
Wet - Dry
Horzontal - Vertical
Harmony - Disharmony
Joy - Sorrow
Life - Death
Peace - War
Hard - Soft
Tough - Tender
Liberal - Conservative
Fast - Slow
Classic - Fashionable
Simple - Complicated
Plain - Sophisticated
Presence - Absence
Many - Few or None
Nearsighted - Farsighted
Near - Far
Long-term - Short-term
Sharp - Blurry
Private - Public
Future - Past
Singular - Plural
Weak - Powerful or Strong
Natural - Synthetic
Analog - Digital
Civil - Rude
Pretty - Ugly
Spicy - Bland

And, I already mentioned these in another post:
Old - New, Young or Modern
Rough - Smooth
Poor - Rich
Colorful - Monotone
Short - Tall or Long
Loud - Silent
Light - Dark or Darkness

The possibilities are endless, really. Also, within each pair of
opposites there is plenty of room for personal interpretation, so
don't be afraid of using any of these opposites or any that have
already been used in the challenge! Please feel free to add on to
the list - in words or in pictures...
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...
 
I really have been thinking a lot about contrasts since
architecture-school, more than decade ago! With that in mind, what
I wrote was kind of quick and superficial.

The school-project that initiated my ongoing thoughts on contrast,
was a new building (fictive project) in the historic part of town.
While some tried to mimic the old buildings, others would argue
that the only right thing to do, was to be true to our modern times
and make a modern and contrasting design, claiming that the
contrast would enhance the experience of both the new and the old.
I still don't know if I agree with any of these two extremes. I
think the proper balance between the old and the new would be
somewhere in between: respecting the historic context, yet not
copying it, just playing along on the same tune so to speak - with
a more modern instrument...
Put an image in the eligible gallery, very related to the above topic:
http://www.pbase.com/image/23946437
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--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
I decided I had better make an entry before any of my other ideas are copied first, heheh. I just uploaded 3 images of Quaker eggs. I'll probably reload the images after updating EXIF information.

Quakers are small birds that are equally related to parrots and parikeets. They are about the same size as cockatiels. The eggs shown were laid by my daughter's bird. She doesn't have a mate, so they are sterile eggs. I took them out of her nest and put them in a jar of salt for preservation. I removed them from the salt for this challenge.
 
I tried replacing the pictures I previously uploaded with versions that contained EXIF information. However, pbase didn't update the EXIF. So I re-uploaded them as new pictures and deleted my first entries, which had no comments yet. I guess this is standard procedure for pbase, but shouldn't there be a way to upload a new picture with EXIF data without having to start over? If there is such a way, can someone explain how?
I decided I had better make an entry before any of my other ideas
are copied first, heheh. I just uploaded 3 images of Quaker eggs.
I'll probably reload the images after updating EXIF information.

Quakers are small birds that are equally related to parrots and
parikeets. They are about the same size as cockatiels. The eggs
shown were laid by my daughter's bird. She doesn't have a mate, so
they are sterile eggs. I took them out of her nest and put them in
a jar of salt for preservation. I removed them from the salt for
this challenge.
 
One great weakness of these internet photo challenges is that you don't know what your images look like on everybody else's monitors!

A colleague of mine pulled up my Historical Reflection image on his screen today. Man, what a dissappointment! It was really dark and muddy looking... Hope it looks better than that on most screens. The image looks the best at my monitor at home (of course since that's where I did the editing), but definitely looked better on MY screen at work, than on my colleague's. It seems to be especially hard to get a somewhat consistant appearance with low-key shots! They really vary a lot from screen to screen!!! I had the same kind of trouble with my War of the Roses (opus I) shot in challenge 3.

(bump)
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
Yes, when you replace pictures in place, everything else stays the same, including all the EXIF information. So, your way is the only way to get pbase to read the EXIF of the new photos.

What you did was OK. The only picture to move was mine, and I don't care. If I really cared, I could move it back to the end pretty easily.

--Garrett
http://www.pbase.com/garrettlau
I decided I had better make an entry before any of my other ideas
are copied first, heheh. I just uploaded 3 images of Quaker eggs.
I'll probably reload the images after updating EXIF information.

Quakers are small birds that are equally related to parrots and
parikeets. They are about the same size as cockatiels. The eggs
shown were laid by my daughter's bird. She doesn't have a mate, so
they are sterile eggs. I took them out of her nest and put them in
a jar of salt for preservation. I removed them from the salt for
this challenge.
 
That's true. However, even a simple monitor calibration, like that at http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/ should do quite a bit to even up the displays. It would probably be a good idea to have something like this on the challenge site.

Another option would be to organize a print swap. I've been in a couple of print swaps on an Epson email list. The downside to this is that it takes a long time for everyone to see the pictures, because they must go by snail mail. It also runs the risk of making the challenge be more about printing than camera manipulation.
One great weakness of these internet photo challenges is that you
don't know what your images look like on everybody else's monitors!

A colleague of mine pulled up my Historical Reflection image on his
screen today. Man, what a dissappointment! It was really dark and
muddy looking... Hope it looks better than that on most screens.
The image looks the best at my monitor at home (of course since
that's where I did the editing), but definitely looked better on MY
screen at work, than on my colleague's. It seems to be especially
hard to get a somewhat consistant appearance with low-key shots!
They really vary a lot from screen to screen!!! I had the same kind
of trouble with my War of the Roses (opus I) shot in challenge 3.

(bump)
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
I don't really care either. If I did, I could change the numbers (of my pictures back to where they were) so yours would sort after mine.
What you did was OK. The only picture to move was mine, and I don't
care. If I really cared, I could move it back to the end pretty
easily.

--Garrett
http://www.pbase.com/garrettlau
I decided I had better make an entry before any of my other ideas
are copied first, heheh. I just uploaded 3 images of Quaker eggs.
I'll probably reload the images after updating EXIF information.

Quakers are small birds that are equally related to parrots and
parikeets. They are about the same size as cockatiels. The eggs
shown were laid by my daughter's bird. She doesn't have a mate, so
they are sterile eggs. I took them out of her nest and put them in
a jar of salt for preservation. I removed them from the salt for
this challenge.
 
Hello all, I am new to this forum and also your challenge. I uploaded two shots I took last Saturday. One is of an old historical landmark that sits under a gothic cathedral and the other is is a study of snow on trees opposing the hard lines of a building. I do hope they are recieved well.

Thank you,
D2,

--
'A good photograph is knowing where to stand.' ~ Ansel Adams

http://www.pbase.com/darter02
 
I'd think we all pretty much have our monitors calibrated, since we're doing photo work. I've not had any problems with anyone's postings looking oddly colored so I pretty much figure it means I'm good here. I spent alot of time calibrating about a yr ago, and although you should recalibrate regularly, mine still seems to be ok enough to work with. Unless those work monitors have been calibrated b/c they needed to be, there's going to be a huge difference on them. Virtually every monitor out there will look different unless it's calibrated.

Warmly,
Lonnit
One great weakness of these internet photo challenges is that you
don't know what your images look like on everybody else's monitors!

A colleague of mine pulled up my Historical Reflection image on his
screen today. Man, what a dissappointment! It was really dark and
muddy looking... Hope it looks better than that on most screens.
The image looks the best at my monitor at home (of course since
that's where I did the editing), but definitely looked better on MY
screen at work, than on my colleague's. It seems to be especially
hard to get a somewhat consistant appearance with low-key shots!
They really vary a lot from screen to screen!!! I had the same kind
of trouble with my War of the Roses (opus I) shot in challenge 3.

(bump)
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

--
Please visit my gallery at http://pbase.com/lonnit

and offer your comments. The fastest way for me to learn is when you tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong, what you like and what you don't. I welcome all opinions. :)



WARNING: 10D-itis is contagious!!!!!!!
 
Another option would be to organize a print swap. I've been in a
couple of print swaps on an Epson email list. The downside to this
is that it takes a long time for everyone to see the pictures,
because they must go by snail mail. It also runs the risk of making
the challenge be more about printing than camera manipulation.
One great weakness of these internet photo challenges is that you
don't know what your images look like on everybody else's monitors!

A colleague of mine pulled up my Historical Reflection image on his
screen today. Man, what a dissappointment! It was really dark and
muddy looking... Hope it looks better than that on most screens.
The image looks the best at my monitor at home (of course since
that's where I did the editing), but definitely looked better on MY
screen at work, than on my colleague's. It seems to be especially
hard to get a somewhat consistant appearance with low-key shots!
They really vary a lot from screen to screen!!! I had the same kind
of trouble with my War of the Roses (opus I) shot in challenge 3.

(bump)
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

--
Please visit my gallery at http://pbase.com/lonnit

and offer your comments. The fastest way for me to learn is when you tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong, what you like and what you don't. I welcome all opinions. :)



WARNING: 10D-itis is contagious!!!!!!!
 
I just printed my Quaker Egg on Cactus, and I was amazed at the degree to which the JPEG algorithm mucked up the colors. It's not so visible on my monitor, although now that I see what's on print, I can see it in the picture as well.

For some reason, it never donned on me to do this one in B&W, but I think it really looks better that way. Would it be within the bounds of the rules to upload a replacement that's B&W instead of color?
Warmly,
Lonnit
One great weakness of these internet photo challenges is that you
don't know what your images look like on everybody else's monitors!

A colleague of mine pulled up my Historical Reflection image on his
screen today. Man, what a dissappointment! It was really dark and
muddy looking... Hope it looks better than that on most screens.
The image looks the best at my monitor at home (of course since
that's where I did the editing), but definitely looked better on MY
screen at work, than on my colleague's. It seems to be especially
hard to get a somewhat consistant appearance with low-key shots!
They really vary a lot from screen to screen!!! I had the same kind
of trouble with my War of the Roses (opus I) shot in challenge 3.

(bump)
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

--
Please visit my gallery at http://pbase.com/lonnit
and offer your comments. The fastest way for me to learn is when
you tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong, what you
like and what you don't. I welcome all opinions. :)



WARNING: 10D-itis is contagious!!!!!!!
 
I'd think we all pretty much have our monitors calibrated, since
we're doing photo work. I've not had any problems with anyone's
postings looking oddly colored so I pretty much figure it means I'm
good here. I spent alot of time calibrating about a yr ago, and
although you should recalibrate regularly, mine still seems to be
ok enough to work with. Unless those work monitors have been
calibrated b/c they needed to be, there's going to be a huge
difference on them. Virtually every monitor out there will look
different unless it's calibrated.
My monitors at home and at work are both calibrated visually, with the built-in color calibrator in Mac OS X. Still my images look notably better on my home monitor, which is a "Colorsync"-monitor, meaning it allows some kind of automatic calibration as well (there is a button called "calibrate" and when I press it, the monitor goes through a longish process of making the whole screen different shades of grey. The calibration process ends with a icc-profile being made and made the standard screen profile. Don't really understand this, as there is no external colorimeter involved... Anyways, my home monitor is simply more colorful than the one I have at work (a SONY G520 21" CRT). I guess visual calibration has its limits...
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
I'd think we all pretty much have our monitors calibrated, since
we're doing photo work. I've not had any problems with anyone's
postings looking oddly colored so I pretty much figure it means I'm
good here. I spent alot of time calibrating about a yr ago, and
although you should recalibrate regularly, mine still seems to be
ok enough to work with. Unless those work monitors have been
calibrated b/c they needed to be, there's going to be a huge
difference on them. Virtually every monitor out there will look
different unless it's calibrated.
Lonnit, just curious, what would you say is the color of the reflected house in my submission? [Very rough monitor-test]
http://www.pbase.com/image/23946437

--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

 
Sounds like a cool monitor! I did my calibration using the adobe calibrator that came with photoshop and it's not flawless but it is most definitely close enough to work with. My ofoto prints match well enough as do my oki c7400 color laser and my epson 2200. I'd love to have it perfect, but taht would be big $ and for free I am very satisfied with my current results.

Wamrly,
Lonnit
I'd think we all pretty much have our monitors calibrated, since
we're doing photo work. I've not had any problems with anyone's
postings looking oddly colored so I pretty much figure it means I'm
good here. I spent alot of time calibrating about a yr ago, and
although you should recalibrate regularly, mine still seems to be
ok enough to work with. Unless those work monitors have been
calibrated b/c they needed to be, there's going to be a huge
difference on them. Virtually every monitor out there will look
different unless it's calibrated.
My monitors at home and at work are both calibrated visually, with
the built-in color calibrator in Mac OS X. Still my images look
notably better on my home monitor, which is a "Colorsync"-monitor,
meaning it allows some kind of automatic calibration as well (there
is a button called "calibrate" and when I press it, the monitor
goes through a longish process of making the whole screen different
shades of grey. The calibration process ends with a icc-profile
being made and made the standard screen profile. Don't really
understand this, as there is no external colorimeter involved...
Anyways, my home monitor is simply more colorful than the one I
have at work (a SONY G520 21" CRT). I guess visual calibration has
its limits...
--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

--
Please visit my gallery at http://pbase.com/lonnit

and offer your comments. The fastest way for me to learn is when you tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong, what you like and what you don't. I welcome all opinions. :)



WARNING: 10D-itis is contagious!!!!!!!
 
I'd think we all pretty much have our monitors calibrated, since
we're doing photo work. I've not had any problems with anyone's
postings looking oddly colored so I pretty much figure it means I'm
good here. I spent alot of time calibrating about a yr ago, and
although you should recalibrate regularly, mine still seems to be
ok enough to work with. Unless those work monitors have been
calibrated b/c they needed to be, there's going to be a huge
difference on them. Virtually every monitor out there will look
different unless it's calibrated.
Lonnit, just curious, what would you say is the color of the
reflected house in my submission? [Very rough monitor-test]
http://www.pbase.com/image/23946437

--
Olaf

I come from a flat land of horizontal sunlight and horizontal rains...

--
Please visit my gallery at http://pbase.com/lonnit

and offer your comments. The fastest way for me to learn is when you tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong, what you like and what you don't. I welcome all opinions. :)



WARNING: 10D-itis is contagious!!!!!!!
 

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