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I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.

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I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Setting aside that pesky word "need" I find the 12-45 a little workhorse of a lens for light travel and oddly enough, closeup work because the minimum focus distance does not vary much across the zoom range. It helpfully is compatible with in-camera stacking (a relatively short list).

Two-hundred for this gem is a very good value. I thought it handled nicely on the OM-3 when I tried the pair in the store. Definitely doesn't overwhelm it or balance poorly. In sum, I though the camera worked well with a surprising array of lens sizes, probably because it's relatively wide and the thumb rest is well placed.

IMHO

Rick
 
For $200 I'd get the 12-45mm in a heart beat. Same IQ as you 12-100mm but so much lighter and better suited (IMO) for travel. Worse case you sell it for $400 and you lowered your total cost by $200 and made a buyer very happy!
 
The 12-45 is a wonderfully small and light zoom that matches the same excellent IQ as the 12-100 for half the weight and 2/3 the length. If you find yourself rarely shooting at the 46-100mm range then the 12-45 might suit you better. The 12-45 also holds its resale value quite well from what I can tell, if you don't use it you can always sell it away for little to no loss.

I don't own the 12-100 myself , but my 75-300 at 100g less is still comfortable to use without an add-on grip to my OM-3. Assuming you are supporting the weight of your setup with your left hand by the lens, I don't think it should be too uncomfortable.
 
I have the 12-45 and 12-100, both excellent, but in my opinion due to weight and size differences not really comparable. Nice having the option to choose between the two depending on location and what you are doing on any given day.
 
If you have time and will to reconsider, I'd go for the 25mm kit lens on this specific model. That's what I did and I could not be happier.

I already owned the 12-45 and for a fortunate chance the 12-40 at the same time. I thought the 12-45 would end up killing the 12-40 for me (it killed the 12-35 2.8 previously) but the opposite is happening. I end up reaching for the 12-40 more, f4 is too much of a compromise in my view.

25mm covers the small / bright, 12-40 covers the flexible and perfect if I have more space or will to carry.

Hoping this helps!
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
You already have on OM-1 and 12-100 lens. Question is, why are you buying an OM-3?

If you want a smaller footprint, then clearly the 12-45/4 will serve that purpose.

If you are willing to put a grip on the OM-3 to handle the 12-100, then why not just use the OM-1 which will handle the 12-100 much better no matter what you do to the OM-3.

I don't have an OM-3, so I can't answer the specific question. But I recently bought the OM-5ii, to upgrade my small kit from the E-M5iii. And I didn't pass up the amazing deal on the 12-45/4 even though I have the 12-100 and two 12-40/2.8's (I have two because I use them for professional jobs and need backup).

At any rate, for $200 the 12-45./4 is a bargain. I would buy it just to have it. But I would get it with the OM-5ii, which is a clear winner as a smaller lighter camera option. It actually has a useful grip.
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Even though I rarely use it, I did buy the 12-45mm kit lens. I have had the 12-40mm f/2.8 for 10 years now, and the 12-200mm f/3.5-6.3 for 5 years, and these are my main lenses.

I do not have the 12-100mm lens. I used it for a weekend before getting my 12-200mm lens, and it just did not appeal to me. I found it too heavy on my E-m5 mark III body that I was using at the time.

I do find with lenses heavier than my 12-40mm, that I prefer having a grip or leather case that builds up the hand grip. I have three:
And even with the above, I find myself at times switching back to the older 14-150mm f/4-5.6 lens to have a lighter package. But part of the big purchase I had made that included the OM-3 was to reduce my camera gear bag after a fall I had in March that got lighter weight lenses in addition to the OM-3 (note, the OM-3 purchase really wasn't about weight, but the other lenses I got were to reduce the load).

In buying the 12-45mm f/4 kit lens, I figured it was nice to have smaller lens, since the OM-3 has a slimmer profile than the OM-1 that I also have. But I've used the 12-40mm so long, I typically don't mind the extra 128g (0.3 lbs) that the heavier lens brings. So of the lenses I bought, the 12-45mm f/4 is under-used.

But your 12-100mm is a heavier lens.

One thing to think about is if the extra $200 won't make you eat ramen for a month, that if you find you never use it, you should be able to sell it for a similar amount down the road. That way you have the option to see if a lighter lens might go out more often.
 
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I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
You already have on OM-1 and 12-100 lens. Question is, why are you buying an OM-3?

If you want a smaller footprint, then clearly the 12-45/4 will serve that purpose.

If you are willing to put a grip on the OM-3 to handle the 12-100, then why not just use the OM-1 which will handle the 12-100 much better no matter what you do to the OM-3.
I am not the OP, but I did buy the OM-3 in March, and I also have the OM-1.

I tend to go out with 2 cameras, having a different lens on each camera. For me, the OM-3 easily replaced the E-m5 mark III that was my second camera. It has the same menu system and uses the same batteries, so it makes it easier to swap between the two.

At times, I when I go out with a single camera, sometimes the OM-3 goes out, particularly if I'm primarily going out with the lighter lenses. But if I'm going out with the heavier lenses, I still find the OM-1's grip to be better than the OM-3's even if I put on a third party grip.
 
A big yes from me and it will save you in the long run as you will eventually get every Micro Four Lens ever produced, top little lens for sure!!
 
If you have time and will to reconsider, I'd go for the 25mm kit lens on this specific model. That's what I did and I could not be happier.

I already owned the 12-45 and for a fortunate chance the 12-40 at the same time. I thought the 12-45 would end up killing the 12-40 for me (it killed the 12-35 2.8 previously) but the opposite is happening. I end up reaching for the 12-40 more, f4 is too much of a compromise in my view.

25mm covers the small / bright, 12-40 covers the flexible and perfect if I have more space or will to carry.

Hoping this helps!
Thank you for your input, unfortunately as a kit in USA only combo we have is with 12-40 F4
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
You already have on OM-1 and 12-100 lens. Question is, why are you buying an OM-3?

If you want a smaller footprint, then clearly the 12-45/4 will serve that purpose.

If you are willing to put a grip on the OM-3 to handle the 12-100, then why not just use the OM-1 which will handle the 12-100 much better no matter what you do to the OM-3.

I don't have an OM-3, so I can't answer the specific question. But I recently bought the OM-5ii, to upgrade my small kit from the E-M5iii. And I didn't pass up the amazing deal on the 12-45/4 even though I have the 12-100 and two 12-40/2.8's (I have two because I use them for professional jobs and need backup).

At any rate, for $200 the 12-45./4 is a bargain. I would buy it just to have it. But I would get it with the OM-5ii, which is a clear winner as a smaller lighter camera option. It actually has a useful grip.
Thank you - that is interesting observation, I do struggle with this question about why OM-3 when I got OM-1 mk1, only reason that has intrigued me for OM-3 is its font color filter and based upon reviews it seems it has better AF compared to OM-1 mk1 that I've. But you are right, I still need to figure out that why part.
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Even though I rarely use it, I did buy the 12-45mm kit lens. I have had the 12-40mm f/2.8 for 10 years now, and the 12-200mm f/3.5-6.3 for 5 years, and these are my main lenses.

I do not have the 12-100mm lens. I used it for a weekend before getting my 12-200mm lens, and it just did not appeal to me. I found it too heavy on my E-m5 mark III body that I was using at the time.

I do find with lenses heavier than my 12-40mm, that I prefer having a grip or leather case that builds up the hand grip. I have three:
And even with the above, I find myself at times switching back to the older 14-150mm f/4-5.6 lens to have a lighter package. But part of the big purchase I had made that included the OM-3 was to reduce my camera gear bag after a fall I had in March that got lighter weight lenses in addition to the OM-3 (note, the OM-3 purchase really wasn't about weight, but the other lenses I got were to reduce the load).

In buying the 12-45mm f/4 kit lens, I figured it was nice to have smaller lens, since the OM-3 has a slimmer profile than the OM-1 that I also have. But I've used the 12-40mm so long, I typically don't mind the extra 128g (0.3 lbs) that the heavier lens brings. So of the lenses I bought, the 12-45mm f/4 is under-used.

But your 12-100mm is a heavier lens.

One thing to think about is if the extra $200 won't make you eat ramen for a month, that if you find you never use it, you should be able to sell it for a similar amount down the road. That way you have the option to see if a lighter lens might go out more often.
thank you for some of those options - I ended up ordering Lefoto OM-3 grip.
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Setting aside that pesky word "need" I find the 12-45 a little workhorse of a lens for light travel and oddly enough, closeup work because the minimum focus distance does not vary much across the zoom range. It helpfully is compatible with in-camera stacking (a relatively short list).

Two-hundred for this gem is a very good value. I thought it handled nicely on the OM-3 when I tried the pair in the store. Definitely doesn't overwhelm it or balance poorly. In sum, I though the camera worked well with a surprising array of lens sizes, probably because it's relatively wide and the thumb rest is well placed.

IMHO

Rick
Agreed with Rick here. I didn’t really want the 12-45/4, but found a great deal on the kit. I’ve been using it a ton (my preferred lens for hiking) and have been very pleased with it - now I can’t imagine not having it!

For me, the 12-45 is as big as I’d go without using a grip, larger than that and you really need a grip if using the camera one-handed.
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Setting aside that pesky word "need" I find the 12-45 a little workhorse of a lens for light travel and oddly enough, closeup work because the minimum focus distance does not vary much across the zoom range. It helpfully is compatible with in-camera stacking (a relatively short list).

Two-hundred for this gem is a very good value. I thought it handled nicely on the OM-3 when I tried the pair in the store. Definitely doesn't overwhelm it or balance poorly. In sum, I though the camera worked well with a surprising array of lens sizes, probably because it's relatively wide and the thumb rest is well placed.

IMHO

Rick
Agreed with Rick here. I didn’t really want the 12-45/4, but found a great deal on the kit. I’ve been using it a ton (my preferred lens for hiking) and have been very pleased with it - now I can’t imagine not having it!

For me, the 12-45 is as big as I’d go without using a grip, larger than that and you really need a grip if using the camera one-handed.
Thank you - that is helpful - if you dont mind could you please share what was deal on the kit and with which body ?
 
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... I ended up ordering Lefoto OM-3 grip.
Does that mean you decided to buy the OM-3, and if so, did you get the 12-45 too? If you haven't made the decision, I can't imagine that you wouldn't make a good profit if you sold the lens...$200 is a steal, it would be a no-brainer to me.
yeah ordered one with kit lens
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Setting aside that pesky word "need" I find the 12-45 a little workhorse of a lens for light travel and oddly enough, closeup work because the minimum focus distance does not vary much across the zoom range. It helpfully is compatible with in-camera stacking (a relatively short list).

Two-hundred for this gem is a very good value. I thought it handled nicely on the OM-3 when I tried the pair in the store. Definitely doesn't overwhelm it or balance poorly. In sum, I though the camera worked well with a surprising array of lens sizes, probably because it's relatively wide and the thumb rest is well placed.

IMHO

Rick
Agreed with Rick here. I didn’t really want the 12-45/4, but found a great deal on the kit. I’ve been using it a ton (my preferred lens for hiking) and have been very pleased with it - now I can’t imagine not having it!

For me, the 12-45 is as big as I’d go without using a grip, larger than that and you really need a grip if using the camera one-handed.
Thank you - that is helpful - if you dont mind could you please share what was deal on the kit and with which body ?
I bought it used with an OM-3 from a vendor on eBay for $1,800. That's a gamble that didn't really pay off, because I had to send it in for service out-of-warranty. :(
 
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth to purchase OM-3 with 12-45 kit lens for extra $200 ? I already have 12-100 F4 Pro and have used it many times for travel, so trying to figure if it is worth spending extra $200 as kit lens is not bringing anything new to my range and performance. Can someone please help me decide how well body balances with bigger lens on it ? I dont mind adding smaller hand grip on OM-3 to help with ergonomics, but trying to see if I really need kit lens here.
Setting aside that pesky word "need" I find the 12-45 a little workhorse of a lens for light travel and oddly enough, closeup work because the minimum focus distance does not vary much across the zoom range. It helpfully is compatible with in-camera stacking (a relatively short list).

Two-hundred for this gem is a very good value. I thought it handled nicely on the OM-3 when I tried the pair in the store. Definitely doesn't overwhelm it or balance poorly. In sum, I though the camera worked well with a surprising array of lens sizes, probably because it's relatively wide and the thumb rest is well placed.

IMHO

Rick
Agreed with Rick here. I didn’t really want the 12-45/4, but found a great deal on the kit. I’ve been using it a ton (my preferred lens for hiking) and have been very pleased with it - now I can’t imagine not having it!

For me, the 12-45 is as big as I’d go without using a grip, larger than that and you really need a grip if using the camera one-handed.
Thank you - that is helpful - if you dont mind could you please share what was deal on the kit and with which body ?
I got my 12-45mm as a kit with my then new OM-5, the 12-45mm helped me decide at the time between a new EM-5 Mk3 and the fantastic OM-5, got it for a good price then travelled all over Europe with it and got some nice shots, grab that deal and you won't regret it
 
When I bought the OM-3 (body pnly) early this summer, the difference was $400 (CAD for me). Now that it's only about $200 difference between the body-only and the 12-45mm kit, I can see why the decision is so tough. I stuck with the body-only because my 12-40mm is still excellent, but I still have pangs of GAS over it!
 

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