Fujifilm Tether App

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A while back, perhaps a couple of months, I tried and discussed on here the Fujifilm Tether App for controlling the GFX 100S2 . Specifically I was trying to command a focus bracket from the WIndows Surface laptop/tablet, and after all sorts of fiddles and workarounds with the camera settings , became disenchanted.

This experience I shared with Fujifilm UK in my normal subtle colonial way, and to their credit they listened without offence. Today, just browsing I noticed an update to the App, 1.34.0.1, had just been posted and so downloaded and tried.

This time all I did was take the camera from its bag, place on a tripod and plug in the tether cable. I then started the App after switching the camera on, and ticked the box for focus bracket. It pondered and then after a second or two it offered the " Set" button. I pressed this and a new screen box opened in the main part of the window and allowed me to set point 1 and point 2 . I did this both using the dropper in the box , and then tried using the touch screen on the tablet and confirming with the dropper. Both methods worked well , though the dropper did not change the screen focus , it did alter the distance scale. One of my gripes ( there were loads) was that the camera chose about i/3 as many bracket points when used alone as the App did ! I can confirm that in my brief trial both returned 14 points for the same bracket.

Have looked at the shots in Helicon Focus and can say that I am absolutely thrilled at the change to the operation of this software, the nasty clunky experience is gone and I really look forward to taking this out into the wild to enjoy the union of camera and tablet.

For others that have similarly suffered, download and add your thoughts. To fuji, in the words of the proverbial darts commentator " One Hundred and Eighty " !
 
To fuji, in the words of the proverbial darts commentator " One Hundred and Eighty " !
For those who see the English solely through the lens of highbrow Masterpiece Theatre broadcasts, it is worth watching a darts tournament.

A taste of 180!
 
A while back, perhaps a couple of months, I tried and discussed on here the Fujifilm Tether App for controlling the GFX 100S2 . Specifically I was trying to command a focus bracket from the WIndows Surface laptop/tablet, and after all sorts of fiddles and workarounds with the camera settings , became disenchanted.

This experience I shared with Fujifilm UK in my normal subtle colonial way, and to their credit they listened without offence. Today, just browsing I noticed an update to the App, 1.34.0.1, had just been posted and so downloaded and tried.

This time all I did was take the camera from its bag, place on a tripod and plug in the tether cable. I then started the App after switching the camera on, and ticked the box for focus bracket. It pondered and then after a second or two it offered the " Set" button. I pressed this and a new screen box opened in the main part of the window and allowed me to set point 1 and point 2 . I did this both using the dropper in the box , and then tried using the touch screen on the tablet and confirming with the dropper. Both methods worked well , though the dropper did not change the screen focus , it did alter the distance scale. One of my gripes ( there were loads) was that the camera chose about i/3 as many bracket points when used alone as the App did ! I can confirm that in my brief trial both returned 14 points for the same bracket.

Have looked at the shots in Helicon Focus and can say that I am absolutely thrilled at the change to the operation of this software, the nasty clunky experience is gone and I really look forward to taking this out into the wild to enjoy the union of camera and tablet.

For others that have similarly suffered, download and add your thoughts. To fuji, in the words of the proverbial darts commentator " One Hundred and Eighty " !
Thank you for that. A few relevant or not questions, in no particular order, if you don't mind that would be of great help to me and maybe others too:
  • Have you compared this updated tethering capability with Lightroom's plug in and if so, which do you prefer and why?
  • How long does it take to transfer say 100 RAW files with tethering?
  • What are your tablet's CPU and, in particular, RAM? I've struggled with 16GB on my i7 laptop in general so wondering what is your experience in this particular workflow - especially using the super fast Helicon software.
  • Maybe a silly one but do you find you need a keyboard while out in the field? Considering selling my laptop for a more lightweight tablet like you have and wondering if keyboard is a must (aware you can attach a bluetooth one).
  • What is your workflow in the field? Take a few shots to stack and observe outcome or take the max possible? I guess this depends on the speed question from above.
Thanks

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Thank you for that. A few relevant or not questions, in no particular order, if you don't mind that would be of great help to me and maybe others too:
  • Have you compared this updated tethering capability with Lightroom's plug in and if so, which do you prefer and why?
Sorry I don't use Lightroom ..... all Capture One Pro here .
  • How long does it take to transfer say 100 RAW files with tethering?
From my experience all uses have been bracketed tethers of far fewer shots, however I might suggest cable, speed of host in writing etc are variable by user.
  • What are your tablet's CPU and, in particular, RAM? I've struggled with 16GB on my i7 laptop in general so wondering what is your experience in this particular workflow - especially using the super fast Helicon software.
mines is an existing Surface 7+ , so i5 . 8gb ram and 12 GB SSD with additional micro SD 200gb . I dont use Helicon on the Surface Pro , all that sort of thing is done on the desktop with i7 , 32gb ram, 10tb in drives. The tablet/laptop is purely a large remote control when out and about, offering nice large previews.
  • Maybe a silly one but do you find you need a keyboard while out in the field? Considering selling my laptop for a more lightweight tablet like you have and wondering if keyboard is a must (aware you can attach a bluetooth one).
As a remote for the camera, the keyboard is not critical with a touch screen , but we all know that you might want to check a mail, check the weather, or some other function where the mouse track pad and right click are more important. The Surface comes with a detachable keyboard that weighs nothing. Check though that you ain at 7+ or above as they have the ability to remove the SSD and add up to a gigabyte. RAM is soldered so what you buy is what you love with.
  • What is your workflow in the field? Take a few shots to stack and observe outcome or take the max possible? I guess this depends on the speed question from above.
I am still trying to get to grips with methodology. Far too regimented behaviours tend to become routines and so disallow variation which to me is important and freedom breeds creativity ( if I ever achieve it ) So if transient light and subject allows, it might be a case of sometimes "banging off a few" and after triaging on the tablet, double back to erect three legs and get a bit more involved trying to extract the cream. Always used to find that the best frames in the old days were on the polaroid, so even " banging off a few" is done with a view to just perhaps there might be a keeper :)

Might mention that I also run the tether app on my desktop for anything in here ... my comments in that original post were relevant to trying it with the Surface Pro 7+
 
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Thank you for that. A few relevant or not questions, in no particular order, if you don't mind that would be of great help to me and maybe others too:
  • Have you compared this updated tethering capability with Lightroom's plug in and if so, which do you prefer and why?
Sorry I don't use Lightroom ..... all Capture One Pro here .
  • How long does it take to transfer say 100 RAW files with tethering?
From my experience all uses have been bracketed tethers of far fewer shots, however I might suggest cable, speed of host in writing etc are variable by user.
  • What are your tablet's CPU and, in particular, RAM? I've struggled with 16GB on my i7 laptop in general so wondering what is your experience in this particular workflow - especially using the super fast Helicon software.
mines is an existing Surface 7+ , so i5 . 8gb ram and 12 GB SSD with additional micro SD 200gb . I dont use Helicon on the Surface Pro , all that sort of thing is done on the desktop with i7 , 32gb ram, 10tb in drives. The tablet/laptop is purely a large remote control when out and about, offering nice large previews.
  • Maybe a silly one but do you find you need a keyboard while out in the field? Considering selling my laptop for a more lightweight tablet like you have and wondering if keyboard is a must (aware you can attach a bluetooth one).
As a remote for the camera, the keyboard is not critical with a touch screen , but we all know that you might want to check a mail, check the weather, or some other function where the mouse track pad and right click are more important. The Surface comes with a detachable keyboard that weighs nothing. Check though that you ain at 7+ or above as they have the ability to remove the SSD and add up to a gigabyte. RAM is soldered so what you buy is what you love with.
  • What is your workflow in the field? Take a few shots to stack and observe outcome or take the max possible? I guess this depends on the speed question from above.
I am still trying to get to grips with methodology. Far too regimented behaviours tend to become routines and so disallow variation which to me is important and freedom breeds creativity ( if I ever achieve it ) So if transient light and subject allows, it might be a case of sometimes "banging off a few" and after triaging on the tablet, double back to erect three legs and get a bit more involved trying to extract the cream. Always used to find that the best frames in the old days were on the polaroid, so even " banging off a few" is done with a view to just perhaps there might be a keeper :)

Might mention that I also run the tether app on my desktop for anything in here ... my comments in that original post were relevant to trying it with the Surface Pro 7+
Thanks for the useful insights.
 
Thanks for the information.

I had forgotten from where I had downloaded the app.

In typical Fujifilm software brain-dead fashion, going to one of the Fujifilm App sites, Fujifilm could not find the Tether app.

Only by doing a general Google search, outside the Fuji site for "Fujifilm Tether App" could I find the specific Fujifilm site containing the app.

Fuji can't find their own site.

Clowns.

I've installed the new version. Don't have time to use it 'til later.
 
Just tried the app today. Overall, it works great and seems very reliable albeit a big laggy.

On my i7, 16GB laptop, it takes about 6 sec from shot to shot. On my (latest) i5, 128GB PC, it takes 3-4 sec. Also tried Helicon on the laptop with about 15 RAW files as a test, and surprisingly enough, it got going after a few min (I think it was first converting those to DNG) and once started, it was done in a min or so. Bravo. Both PC and laptop have equivalent SSDs.

I tried it via Lightroom via its plugin as well and there was no live view. I also tried the latest LR version, which supposedly does tethering without any plugin, and it wouldn't recognize my GFX 100S ii, so I guess that doesn't really work yet. If anyone has better luck, please let us know.

Not sure if I would want to wait 6 sec between each shot in the field or deal with the lag, so I don't think I would use my laptop for this. But with the desktop it's great to have.

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Apollon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/apollonas/
 
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I didn't have that experience ,what are you using to connect the tether ? Did you make any settings on the camera pre shooting ?
 
I didn't have that experience ,what are you using to connect the tether ? Did you make any settings on the camera pre shooting ?
Which experience are you referring at, the laggy live view, the 6 sec shot interval or something else?

The camera was set to auto tether and manuala and connected via high speed usb cable.

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Apollon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/apollonas/
 
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I did not set the camera to anything other than switched off is on the lens.

I was not using a computer USB type cable ,I used a tether cable sold by studio type supplier specifically for photo tethering .

EDIT

Just popped upstairs and tried a few things because I had an idea what your issue is .

The delay you are facing is one of write speed !

You have several points at which to attack this , firstly look at the preferences for the APP and head for the choices for saving files. I suggest you only send jpeg to the tablet/laptop as these should deliver quickly and write in much shorter time. Set the RAW files to go to the Camera card, and ensure you have a very fast card or you will hit the buffer on bigger brackets. Look to use ( if you don't already ) a true tether cable . Mine suggests as able to carry 2000 mb/s USB 3.2 gen 2x2.

I was achieving a nine shot bracket in around 29 secs including the shoot time of around 1/20 th sec.

If outdoors and this is too long , swap to your 20mm set f16 and shoot it in 1 :)
 
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I did not set the camera to anything other than switched off is on the lens.

I was not using a computer USB type cable ,I used a tether cable sold by studio type supplier specifically for photo tethering .

EDIT

Just popped upstairs and tried a few things because I had an idea what your issue is .

The delay you are facing is one of write speed !

You have several points at which to attack this , firstly look at the preferences for the APP and head for the choices for saving files. I suggest you only send jpeg to the tablet/laptop as these should deliver quickly and write in much shorter time. Set the RAW files to go to the Camera card, and ensure you have a very fast card or you will hit the buffer on bigger brackets. Look to use ( if you don't already ) a true tether cable . Mine suggests as able to carry 2000 mb/s USB 3.2 gen 2x2.

I was achieving a nine shot bracket in around 29 secs including the shoot time of around 1/20 th sec.

If outdoors and this is too long , swap to your 20mm set f16 and shoot it in 1 :)
The JPG only transfer is a good practical idea. But even with JPG normal, I'm still getting a 4.5sec between shot to shot. I also set the usb draw power to off and switched from live view to preview.

Which exact cable are you using? I've tried two so far and got one from tether tools on the way.

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Apollon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/apollonas/
 
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Tether tool are supposed to be the industry standard, so should be fine .

Here in the UK one of the big photo suppliers is a company called Wex , I bought the cable that they stock and recommend , Mathorn MTC 21M Usb C to Usb C .
 
I'm getting 5.5 to 6 sec transfers from my 100S to my 2019 iMac 27 Intel i9.

Various USB "generic" cables, 3' and 10'.

USB "C" connector at camera, "A" connector at computer.

The program won't let me select only JPEG transfer to the computer. Only Raw and JPEG. If I uncheck the RAW box, the JPEG item becomes grayed out and then no files transfer.

I wonder if the transfer would be faster if the cable is USB C at both ends.
 
Interesting part for me here Rich is you said it was horrendous wen you tried the previous release on you Mac..... so looks like we are getting somewhere . And yes C to C is an advantage.
 
Holding my breath
Breathe!

Well, I can now select near and far points in Focus Stacking. I couldn't reliably do that before.

But the program assigns a very high number of images between those two points. I don't know if there is a way to pre-specify that part of the process. I can change the number once it comes up.

But I can't get the camera to respond in any way. Clicking the "Shutter/BKT" button results in a "click" from the program, but nothing else happens.
 

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