The Fujifilm X-E5 - What do you think so far?

SDPharm said:

> I’ve never needed more than two spare batteries in a day.

If I had two spares, I wouldn't worry either. But as a light weight travel camera, I was hoping I don't need to bring spares. When you have multiple spares, then you need two separate places to store full vs empty spares. I know, I know, I'm just whining ...

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I use a ThinkTank battery holder for two. Side with the contacts up [visible] means empty.

I only have one spare battery between my X-T5 and 100s - admittedly they take the larger 235 batteries.

But if I’m out all day I’m actually more likely to bring my 10000mah power bank and charge on the fly which these newer cameras are very convenient for.

Pennyfan said:

AlanDPReview said:

Well it's official! Here's our early look at the X-E5:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-e5

What do you think so far? Any questions you'd like to ask of our staff on it?

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It missing the dual layer function on the SS dial, like the one on X100VI and GFX100RF.

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I had that dual layer SS/ISO dial on the X-Pro2. Am I the only one who thinks it's fiddly, impractical and should be abolished ASAP? Never understood the hype about it.

People are comparing the X100VI with the X-E5. For me, they are not comparable, as the main benefit of the X100VI is its hybrid viewfinder. However, many seem to use X100 and X-Pro cameras with EVF only. Launching the X-E5 with the new pancake lens will release X100 cameras to those who buy them for the viewfinder, as those who want to always use an EVF will get the X-E5.

Minolta TC-1 said:

I had that dual layer SS/ISO dial on the X-Pro2. Am I the only one who thinks it's fiddly, impractical and should be abolished ASAP? Never understood the hype about it.

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I prefer a separate dial, but the problem if you don’t have a dedicated ISO control at all is that Fuji then include ISO in the custom settings, meaning that if you change recipe your ISO gets overwritten. For me that means doing one of two things: on X System I end up just using auto ISO all the time, whereas on the GFX 50R I have four B&W recipes with different ISOs (and three colour recipes with auto ISO).

The combined dial would be a lot better if it had fewer positions, to make it easier to set and easier to read. Full stops is fine for manual ISO; I can’t imagine a scenario where one needs to manually set ISO in third-stops.

I think if you live in the UK and already own a 23mm lens, the body only price is pretty good. Its definitely a head turner looks wise and im sure a very capable camera (i wouldnt know from personal experience however as im still on gen 3 of X-Trans).

Tapper123 said:

I own an X100VI (bought at launch for MSRP), so that is my point of comparison.

Although I do sometimes wish I could change the lens, the XE5 feels like a bad value to me since it has a worse EVF, no WR, and obviously no included lens, but costs more.

But, it's very pretty, and I'm sure it will sell well and many will love it.

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Same here, I have had the X100VI since Feb 24. I like the XE5, principally for the ability to change lenses. Yes, one can quibble at some aspects of the spec and design choices but overall, I think it is good - good enough for me to have ordered a black kit lens version. The only feature I would have liked, but it is not a show-stopper, is WR.

Along with a XF16-50, it will make a small, light, flexible and fun combo for hiking and general days out with the family.

Incidentally, the lens kit combo, with the 23f2.8, is cheaper in the UK than the X100VI by £50. I suspect, but need to check US prices that the XE5 price has factored in the new tariff regime, whereas as current stock prices of existing cameras/lenses have yet to do so. Is that true?

Jeff Biscuits said:

Minolta TC-1 said:

I had that dual layer SS/ISO dial on the X-Pro2. Am I the only one who thinks it's fiddly, impractical and should be abolished ASAP? Never understood the hype about it.

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I prefer a separate dial, but the problem if you don’t have a dedicated ISO control at all is that Fuji then include ISO in the custom settings, meaning that if you change recipe your ISO gets overwritten. For me that means doing one of two things: on X System I end up just using auto ISO all the time, whereas on the GFX 50R I have four B&W recipes with different ISOs (and three colour recipes with auto ISO).

The combined dial would be a lot better if it had fewer positions, to make it easier to set and easier to read. Full stops is fine for manual ISO; I can’t imagine a scenario where one needs to manually set ISO in third-stops.

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Ah, that makes sense. Yes, part of the fidliness was indeed that there's so many steps on the ISO layer it was very hard to key in what I wanted. The steps were small and it was also hard to do large rotations while pulling it up.

I'm mostly on auto ISO myself. But with the X-E5 adding an extra control dial back at the front, there are more possibilities there for mapping one to ISO, if it isn't already there by default.

Minolta TC-1 said:

Ah, that makes sense. Yes, part of the fidliness was indeed that there's so many steps on the ISO layer it was very hard to key in what I wanted. The steps were small and it was also hard to do large rotations while pulling it up.

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Yes; it’s a perfectly reasonable idea but they didn’t make it terribly easy to use. Used to work fine on film cameras but then of course you’d be leaving it in place for long periods of time (though on some AE cameras, the ISO control was the way of getting exposure compensation).

Minolta TC-1 said:

I'm mostly on auto ISO myself. But with the X-E5 adding an extra control dial back at the front, there are more possibilities there for mapping one to ISO, if it isn't already there by default.

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Setting up a control for ISO is easy enough (personally I find that dials constantly get knocked so I don’t use them) but it still has the issue that if you change recipe the ISO gets changed.

But them they’ve changed some ways of how some of the settings work in the E5, so it’s not currently clear where ISO sits.

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Pennyfan said:

AlanDPReview said:

Well it's official! Here's our early look at the X-E5:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-e5

What do you think so far? Any questions you'd like to ask of our staff on it?

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It missing the dual layer function on the SS dial, like the one on X100VI and GFX100RF.

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I had that dual layer SS/ISO dial on the X-Pro2. Am I the only one who thinks it's fiddly, impractical and should be abolished ASAP? Never understood the hype about it.

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Nope, I'm with you. I have this type of dial on my X100VI. It is fine if one sets ISO and tends to stay with that setting, but one of the benefits of being able to change ISO on the fly is to ensure that one's shutter speed is optimised for the shooting conditions (and with an optimised aperture too).

Therefore, I set the ISO dial on my X100VI to 'C' and have it mapped to the front command dial. This means that I can change the ISO while looking through the view finder, both OVF and EVF. I find this approach easier, faster and more convenient. So, I am content that their design choice was not to include a dual layer SS/ISO dial in the XE5.

I'm... sceptical.

Really sceptical. I understand that the camera itself is meant to be a higher end continuation of the X-E4, with current tech. I know that looking at prices, Fujifilm has been pushing their price enveloppe quite a bit, especially with cameras like the X-T50.

But we're getting at a point where the featureset and specs of the camera seems kind of "cheap" for the pricepoint.

I'm happy to see that 40MP sensor and IBIS in a camera of this form factor and shape, that also has an X mount and not a fixed lens. But at the same time, if we compare it to the X100VI : we leave out weather sealing, we leave out a larger, higher resolution viewfinder, we leave out the OVF.

And that is taking in account that the Lens + sensor + IBIS asembly in the X100VI takes more space inside the camera than the lens mount + sensor + IBIS assembly in the X-E5.

For the price it's being released at, we should at least have one : either weatehr sealing or a higher res viewfinder with higher magnification (Sony was able to fit a larger EVF in the A6700, why not Fuji? Why being stubborn in using that same 2.36M dot EVF with 0.62x mag that they have been using since the X-T10 released 10 years ago?

With the X-E3 and X-E4 being more entry level cameras I could understand the slight downgrade from the X-E2, but now the X-E5 is back at a price level where the consumer should look a little bit more in detail about the stuff they're buying, and a 2013 X-E2 has a better EVF than the X-E5 right now. This is pretty sad, especially considereing the price.

As for weather sealing, well I cannot say much except the X100VI has it, there is no reason (that I would accept) on why the X-E5 cannot have basic sealing (rubber gaskets on the buttons, dials and battery / ports / card doors), even if they don't go to the same lengths as they did with the X-H2 bodies. Hell, the A6700 is weather sealed. Even the Nikon Z50II is weather sealed, and it's 800 USD cheaper.

There is no denying the camera looks great. Takes awesome images. Is pretty small, and ticks a lot of boxes that Fuji shooters were hoping the X-E5 to tick. But at this price there are several things I cannot look past. Especially when cameras like the X-T5 end up at a very similar pricepoint.

Add 300 USD to the price of the X-E5 and you can have a stacked sensor beast that is every bit as stylish as the X-E5 in the form of the OMDS OM-3.

I don't want to hate on the camera, but man the price makes it really hard to do so.

so dang expensive!

Interesting camera, especially as I don't have a Fujifilm or like camera that it would replace.

If possible, could someone confirm if it has the multiple exposure drive option as implemented on other Fujifilm cams?

Thanks

Earthrise said:

Interesting camera, especially as I don't have a Fujifilm or like camera that it would replace.

If possible, could someone confirm if it has the multiple exposure drive option as implemented on other Fujifilm cams?

Thanks

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Great, thanks for that. Cool image!

My biggest issue is the EVF - from comments I believe it is very similar to the one in my X-E4 which I find barely usable with eyeglasses. I wish they had prioritized EVF usability, it’s one of the key distinguishing features of the X-E line.

I waited 7 months for my 100VI. I pre-ordered the X-E5 with the 23mm lens so in 6-7 months, I will compare the two cameras and decide which one to keep. Looks like they reused the X-S20 shutter and EVF. Looking forward to trying some of my fast primes on the X-E5.

HeavyDuty said:

My biggest issue is the EVF - from comments I believe it is very similar to the one in my X-E4 which I find barely usable with eyeglasses. I wish they had prioritized EVF usability, it’s one of the key distinguishing features of the X-E line.

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Yes, it's the exact same panel that Fujifilm has used for 10 years now and didn't bother to replace. You can find that very EVF in the :

- X-T10 (2015)

- X-T20 (2017)

- X-E3 (2017)

- X-T100 (2018)

- X-T30 (2019)

- X-T200 (2020)

- X-S10 (2020)

- X-T30II (2021)

- X-E4 (2021)

- X-S20 (2023)

- X-T50 (2024)

I understand that the lack of EVF innovation in "lower end" camera is a bit of a theme, but even Sony that got regularly dunked on for the terrible EVFs in the A6x000 series managed to get one that's better in the A6700.

Even Nikon has a better EVF in the Z50II. The only mirrorless cameras that have worse EVFs than the X-E5 today are Canon R10, R50 and R100 which all use an EVF taken straight from the M cameras (M5, M50)

Time to wake up, Fuji. Especially when you are selling that camera for as much as you do.

1000DTL said:

I waited 7 months for my 100VI. I pre-ordered the X-E5 with the 23mm lens so in 6-7 months, I will compare the two cameras and decide which one to keep. Looks like they reused the X-S20 shutter and EVF. Looking forward to trying some of my fast primes on the X-E5.

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It's the same EVF as the X-T10 from 2015, the same Fuji has been using in their "non-pro" cameras.

Shutter seems to be the exact same from the X-T30, X-S10, X-S20 and X-T50.

Fujifilm has been working overtime to reuse as many components as possible to the point that absolutely nothing is new in the X-E5 except some firmware tweaks.

MJ_Photo38 said:

1000DTL said:

I waited 7 months for my 100VI. I pre-ordered the X-E5 with the 23mm lens so in 6-7 months, I will compare the two cameras and decide which one to keep. Looks like they reused the X-S20 shutter and EVF. Looking forward to trying some of my fast primes on the X-E5.

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It's the same EVF as the X-T10 from 2015, the same Fuji has been using in their "non-pro" cameras.

Shutter seems to be the exact same from the X-T30, X-S10, X-S20 and X-T50.

Fujifilm has been working overtime to reuse as many components as possible to the point that absolutely nothing is new in the X-E5 except some firmware tweaks.

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I get the impression you don't like this camera, and don't want anyone else to like it either lol.

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