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boldcolors said:
StefanD said:
As it's only intended as a backup and you already have an R7: why not use the R7 as backup? Maybe you would need to add an RF-S wide angle.
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Yeah, that was my original plan but I find the FF+APS-C combination a bit inconsistent in terms of "look". Or maybe it's just in my head, I don't know. Mainly I think it's because I don't have any good RF-S lenses. And using my fullframe lenses on APS-C is always a compromise.

I've been playing with the idea to just get a good zoom lens for the R7, like the Sigma RF 18-50/2.8. Sure, it's not a sexy lens but gets the job done in case something goes wrong. It would be cheaper than getting the EOS RP. And I have the RF50/1.2 which would become a very useful 80/1.9 for portraits on the R7.
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It's a personal choice of course, but if it's really intended as backup so you can continue to shoot when the R8 breaks (how often is that expected to happen?), I wouldn't mind switching to an R7. If you want to use them side-by-side, it would be a whole different situation. But then, using an R8 together with an RP isn't ideal either. I would buy a cheap wide angle RF-S and put the remaining money towards some special glass. (I'm not a professional though)
 
StefanD said:
boldcolors said:
StefanD said:
As it's only intended as a backup and you already have an R7: why not use the R7 as backup? Maybe you would need to add an RF-S wide angle.
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Yeah, that was my original plan but I find the FF+APS-C combination a bit inconsistent in terms of "look". Or maybe it's just in my head, I don't know. Mainly I think it's because I don't have any good RF-S lenses. And using my fullframe lenses on APS-C is always a compromise.

I've been playing with the idea to just get a good zoom lens for the R7, like the Sigma RF 18-50/2.8. Sure, it's not a sexy lens but gets the job done in case something goes wrong. It would be cheaper than getting the EOS RP. And I have the RF50/1.2 which would become a very useful 80/1.9 for portraits on the R7.
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It's a personal choice of course, but if it's really intended as backup so you can continue to shoot when the R8 breaks (how often is that expected to happen?), I wouldn't mind switching to an R7. If you want to use them side-by-side, it would be a whole different situation. But then, using an R8 together with an RP isn't ideal either. I would buy a cheap wide angle RF-S and put the remaining money towards some special glass. (I'm not a professional though)
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Occasional side-by-side happens. Especially on weddings in certain situations when you don't have time to change lens. Optimal is of course identical bodies for 100% consistent output in terms of color rendition and "look"
 
I never liked the RP. When low price is the main selling point you are probably looking at a mediocre product. 6D2 sensor was behind the times in 2017 so RP was that much further behind. I agree that an R8 is the floor for RF bodies.... no IBIS aside it's a great camera.
 
boldcolors said:
StefanD said:
boldcolors said:
StefanD said:
As it's only intended as a backup and you already have an R7: why not use the R7 as backup? Maybe you would need to add an RF-S wide angle.
Click to expand...
Yeah, that was my original plan but I find the FF+APS-C combination a bit inconsistent in terms of "look". Or maybe it's just in my head, I don't know. Mainly I think it's because I don't have any good RF-S lenses. And using my fullframe lenses on APS-C is always a compromise.

I've been playing with the idea to just get a good zoom lens for the R7, like the Sigma RF 18-50/2.8. Sure, it's not a sexy lens but gets the job done in case something goes wrong. It would be cheaper than getting the EOS RP. And I have the RF50/1.2 which would become a very useful 80/1.9 for portraits on the R7.
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It's a personal choice of course, but if it's really intended as backup so you can continue to shoot when the R8 breaks (how often is that expected to happen?), I wouldn't mind switching to an R7. If you want to use them side-by-side, it would be a whole different situation. But then, using an R8 together with an RP isn't ideal either. I would buy a cheap wide angle RF-S and put the remaining money towards some special glass. (I'm not a professional though)
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Occasional side-by-side happens. Especially on weddings in certain situations when you don't have time to change lens. Optimal is of course identical bodies for 100% consistent output in terms of color rendition and "look"
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I use an RP for a variety of shooting including slow action without any problems. The AF is very good. It is a little sluggish when uploading the photo to an @10 speed SD card and has about 1/4 sec. blackout before you see viewfinder.

I am used to those negatives and compensate for them. really like the camera: I like the size, weight and handling with lenses up to my Canon FF 70-300mm II and 17-40mm L with adapter. I just had it out yesterday and shot some sailboats with it and the above lens with adapter without any issues. I have used it indoors with my RF 16mm f2.8 and RF 50mm f1.8 for concert, parties and dancing events, but I don't us eye AF. I manually focus on the eyes or shoot at f4-f8(everything will be in focus). I can't see it being a problem for portraits.

If the price keeps falling a little more I am going to buy another one, so that I can keep a lens mounted on each body.

For sports and birding I use a Canon 90D which I bought at a very inexpensive price on Canon's refurbished site.
 
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j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
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Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
 
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
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Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
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my RP is better than my sold 6d and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
 
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
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my RP is better than my sold 6d
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No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
MAC said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
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Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
 
thunder storm said:
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
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my RP is better than my sold 6d
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No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
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for her, with EF lenses, glad ir meets her needs

for me, with RF lenses, the focus, sharpness, colors, and higher mpxl met my needs - I still keep it, even though the R8 gets the call
thunder storm said:
thunder storm said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
Click to expand...
Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
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well digic X was a game changer

and birding reach and AF would drive the R10/R7
 
thunder storm said:
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
Click to expand...
my RP is better than my sold 6d
Click to expand...
No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
thunder storm said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
Click to expand...
Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
Click to expand...
 
2ndact scene1 said:
thunder storm said:
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
Click to expand...
my RP is better than my sold 6d
Click to expand...
No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
2ndact scene1 said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
Click to expand...
Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
Click to expand...
I have a love hate relationship with the RP. I have had three different copies over several years. But during that entire time I have also had a 6D. I sold my last RP last Fall and my last 6D yesterday. The DSLR of course has long battery life and an optical view finder. And it does have a great sensor.
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Yup, and if you don't need mirrorless AF (focus & recompose works for most travel pics) the 6D gives you access to that sensor for 300 euro or so.

I think the 6D is still a great travel camera. Gps is nice. No charger needed on holidays, one spare is enough.
2ndact scene1 said:
But the RP has all of the mirrorless advantages (well all the basic ones - it has very few of the more sophisticated features other than focus stacking). But once you put an RP on a tripod, that articulating touchscreen becomes very valuable. That is a big advantage over a DSLR.

And if you fit an f/4 lens like the 17-40mm, to an R series camera you get exposure simulation in the EVF and LCD. Put it on a 6D, as I did many times, the OVF gets dim. And if you flip over to live view, you can see exposure simulation on the LCD, but the autofocus is glacial.

It was difficult to let go of the 6D after about ten years
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I can immage this.
2ndact scene1 said:
but it was time to move on.
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It's a skill to estimate EC without exposure simulation. I've lost that skill, to be honest, but I see my wife is actually learning and getting better in it.

But I won't go back, mirrorless all the way.
 
thunder storm said:
2ndact scene1 said:
thunder storm said:
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
Click to expand...
my RP is better than my sold 6d
Click to expand...
No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
thunder storm said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
Click to expand...
Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
Click to expand...
I have a love hate relationship with the RP. I have had three different copies over several years. But during that entire time I have also had a 6D. I sold my last RP last Fall and my last 6D yesterday. The DSLR of course has long battery life and an optical view finder. And it does have a great sensor.
Click to expand...
Yup, and if you don't need mirrorless AF (focus & recompose works for most travel pics) the 6D gives you access to that sensor for 300 euro or so.

I think the 6D is still a great travel camera. Gps is nice. No charger needed on holidays, one spare is enough.
thunder storm said:
But the RP has all of the mirrorless advantages (well all the basic ones - it has very few of the more sophisticated features other than focus stacking). But once you put an RP on a tripod, that articulating touchscreen becomes very valuable. That is a big advantage over a DSLR.

And if you fit an f/4 lens like the 17-40mm, to an R series camera you get exposure simulation in the EVF and LCD. Put it on a 6D, as I did many times, the OVF gets dim. And if you flip over to live view, you can see exposure simulation on the LCD, but the autofocus is glacial.

It was difficult to let go of the 6D after about ten years
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I can immage this.
thunder storm said:
but it was time to move on.
Click to expand...
It's a skill to estimate EC without exposure simulation. I've lost that skill, to be honest, but I see my wife is actually learning and getting better in it.
Click to expand...
Not sure I ever really had it!
thunder storm said:
But I won't go back, mirrorless all the way.

--
R5 & RV
EF & FE
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thunder storm said:
2ndact scene1 said:
thunder storm said:
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
Click to expand...
my RP is better than my sold 6d
Click to expand...
No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
thunder storm said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
Click to expand...
Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
Click to expand...
I have a love hate relationship with the RP. I have had three different copies over several years. But during that entire time I have also had a 6D. I sold my last RP last Fall and my last 6D yesterday. The DSLR of course has long battery life and an optical view finder. And it does have a great sensor.
Click to expand...
Yup, and if you don't need mirrorless AF (focus & recompose works for most travel pics) the 6D gives you access to that sensor for 300 euro or so.

I think the 6D is still a great travel camera. Gps is nice. No charger needed on holidays, one spare is enough.
thunder storm said:
But the RP has all of the mirrorless advantages (well all the basic ones - it has very few of the more sophisticated features other than focus stacking). But once you put an RP on a tripod, that articulating touchscreen becomes very valuable. That is a big advantage over a DSLR.

And if you fit an f/4 lens like the 17-40mm, to an R series camera you get exposure simulation in the EVF and LCD. Put it on a 6D, as I did many times, the OVF gets dim. And if you flip over to live view, you can see exposure simulation on the LCD, but the autofocus is glacial.

It was difficult to let go of the 6D after about ten years
Click to expand...
I can immage this.
thunder storm said:
but it was time to move on.
Click to expand...
It's a skill to estimate EC without exposure simulation. I've lost that skill, to be honest, but I see my wife is actually learning and getting better in it.

But I won't go back, mirrorless all the way.
Click to expand...
me neither, Exposure Simulation and AF - mirrorless all the way
 
2ndact scene1 said:
thunder storm said:
MAC said:
boldcolors said:
j tokarz said:
It was great then. Nothing has changed to make it any less so.
Click to expand...
Good point. We tend to believe that everything older than X years is crap and won't get the job done when comparing with new stuff.

Don't get me wrong, my R8 is exceptional but I can't remember having any issues with the RP so...there is that. But I guess a side-by-side shooting experience will be very clear.
Click to expand...
my RP is better than my sold 6d
Click to expand...
No no no, my wife has a 6D, and it has more DR, better battery life, a more detailed and more and pretty lag less viewfinder and.... build in GPS! Especially that build in GPS is the kind of innovation we don't see in those mirrorless bodies.
2ndact scene1 said:
and 5d

my RP is better than the 6dII

pricing is amazing
Click to expand...
Used RPs should be the aps-c killers, but what do customers know....
Click to expand...
I have a love hate relationship with the RP. I have had three different copies over several years. But during that entire time I have also had a 6D. I sold my last RP last Fall and my last 6D yesterday. The DSLR of course has long battery life and an optical view finder. And it does have a great sensor. But the RP has all of the mirrorless advantages (well all the basic ones - it has very few of the more sophisticated features other than focus stacking). But once you put an RP on a tripod, that articulating touchscreen becomes very valuable. That is a big advantage over a DSLR.

And if you fit an f/4 lens like the 17-40mm, to an R series camera you get exposure simulation in the EVF and LCD. Put it on a 6D, as I did many times, the OVF gets dim. And if you flip over to live view, you can see exposure simulation on the LCD, but the autofocus is glacial.

It was difficult to let go of the 6D after about ten years but it was time to move on.
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I almost feel like you have to shoot DSLRs like film to have the best experience. Even on the 5D4 I found live view shooting lacking.
 
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