how to lock the single point focus to screen middle ?

The SET button defaults to centering the AF Point on most Canon IL cameras
It’s been so long since I have moved an AF point off center I have forgotten. If I had the joystick active would it still work if the set button is mapped for eye detect on/off? That is my current mapping.
Though I have my SET button, on my R5 set to Center the AF Point, any button can be customized to do.
Yep. Since I don’t move it the Set button is convenient for eye detect from me.
I just searched all the R5 Customization functions, and I couldn't find any setting for "locking" / keeping the AF Point permanently in the center.

For those that say, "it's in in the manual", I'd sure like to know where in the manual?
I done know either. Controls are disabled so I don’t think about it.
 
Thank you, Leigh.
 
Hi Alastair, I am a geat believer in reading a manual cover to cover, however this photoshoot has come upon me in a matter of days, and I needed a low light camera, so hastily hired an R6 MkII and have no time to read the manual, If I stop I drop, every hour counts, feels like every minute counts, I have a heck of a lot to organise, so going out and doing test shots having gone through back of camera and set everything to what I use or what I think is best. Also took a look at some youtube talk throughs on the settings.

If I spend time reading manual the actual items I need to organise wont get done and the entire photoshoot, will fail. and cannot be easily repeated. so there wont be a subject to then shoot !

so yes its in the manual but time means I need to ask instead.

also proves useful to some folk with same issues.

DBenz
Online manuals are searchable. Usually lookups are faster than getting a reply here, specially looking at the feedback loop here from your replies. The tone in your initial posts look more of surprise and complain than someone unprepared looking for desperate help to search the relevant parts in the manual
 
So the scolding is about a pattern of questioning, not this particular question?
Yes. It's a reaction to what people are seeing, across all of the initial posts in OPs threads. The Forum is for free flowing discussions and reactions, not just answering questions

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The SET button defaults to centering the AF Point on most Canon IL cameras
It’s been so long since I have moved an AF point off center I have forgotten. If I had the joystick active would it still work if the set button is mapped for eye detect on/off? That is my current mapping.
Though I have my SET button, on my R5 set to Center the AF Point, any button can be customized to do.

I just searched all the R5 Customization functions, and I couldn't find any setting for "locking" / keeping the AF Point permanently in the center.

For those that say, "it's in in the manual", I'd sure like to know where in the manual?
I surely learned it from the manual, and confirming the behaviour on my camera. Don't think I have any other source for this one

Most relevant information is in this section: https://cam.start.canon/en/C012/manual/html/UG-05_AF-Drive_0060.html

Obviously, I would have to combine information from that section. If I want a specific point, I would choose focus area based on that. If I want it to not move, would disable all tracking and detection functions. The shortcut for centering is also mentioned in there. In practice, the centering shortcut is useful enough to get OP what he wants with the correct settings, even if the point is moved occasionally

Depending on how much one knows about the camera, other sections may be relevant too (touch settings, AF mode etc).

In all fairness, this one is perhaps one of the OPs better worded questions. The responses he is getting are due to a bunch od other threads he has posted within the last day or two
 
The SET button defaults to centering the AF Point on most Canon IL cameras
It’s been so long since I have moved an AF point off center I have forgotten. If I had the joystick active would it still work if the set button is mapped for eye detect on/off? That is my current mapping.
Though I have my SET button, on my R5 set to Center the AF Point, any button can be customized to do.
Yep. Since I don’t move it the Set button is convenient for eye detect from me.
I just searched all the R5 Customization functions, and I couldn't find any setting for "locking" / keeping the AF Point permanently in the center.

For those that say, "it's in in the manual", I'd sure like to know where in the manual?
I done know either. Controls are disabled so I don’t think about it.
I just remembered. If the joystick is activated you just need to press it dead centre and that will centre the point. Saves a button for something else.

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Hi,

So far from asking hire company and local camera shop, as couldnt see in manual, I am told press joystick centre and it centres it.

I go to a museum for my birthday to try this R6 Mk II out the day before its first photoshoot/ baptism of fire, and I have to use that centreing maybe 50 times, I am doing photogrammetry and take 300 shots of a merlin engine, I end the fast sequence, 1 shot every 5 secs, to find that folding the rear screen for my hold camera high shots and hold at waist height and knee height and floor height, enough to knacker some photographers, like a workout !...has seen that centre point focus move somewhere else.

sees focus point having shifted to the edge, so my shots are on something in the background.

Oh joy, so redo them another 300 again.

touching screen to move it moves focus point !

entire day keep centreing it.

get home and get told disble active screen, that does it, but then cant touch anything to alter deliberately.

Canon DONT HAVE A LOCK option for the focus points ..!

ISNT THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL TO HAVE ?

and by the way to being flamed for hiring this camera,in such short time, events brought the photoshoot upon me, I required a low light camera NO GRAIN. mine a 70D wont do that. I didnt want to have a few days to suss it, I like to plan well in advance, though hiring a camera for 4 weeks to allow for sussing it, IS EXTREEMELY EXPENSIVE !

all I want to do is get to use this as needed and have it behave like an optical 70D, no blackening out screens or moving focus points, and be allowed to ask a few questions, not be shot at .

so the forum is not a place to ask , so if its not in the manual then sod off...I misunderstood the use of the forum it seems.

thanks for the defence by those upholding my need.

DBenz
 
Hi,

So far from asking hire company and local camera shop, as couldnt see in manual, I am told press joystick centre and it centres it.

I go to a museum for my birthday to try this R6 Mk II out the day before its first photoshoot/ baptism of fire, and I have to use that centreing maybe 50 times, I am doing photogrammetry and take 300 shots of a merlin engine, I end the fast sequence, 1 shot every 5 secs, to find that folding the rear screen for my hold camera high shots and hold at waist height and knee height and floor height, enough to knacker some photographers, like a workout !...has seen that centre point focus move somewhere else.
I am careful to only hold the screen by the frame to articulate it, I don't touch the screen itself when moving it as that avoids fingerprints on the screen. You can use the touch release to fire the shutter, which both gives you the exact point of the image that you want in focus and biasses the evaluative metering to that point as well. It's much quicker and focusses more accurately than focus-&-recompose which you would need if you were just using a central focus point. Using a central focus point is a valid technique when using DSLRs but it's something I do very seldom with mirrorless.
sees focus point having shifted to the edge, so my shots are on something in the background.

Oh joy, so redo them another 300 again.

touching screen to move it moves focus point !

entire day keep centreing it.

get home and get told disble active screen, that does it, but then cant touch anything to alter deliberately.

Canon DONT HAVE A LOCK option for the focus points ..!

ISNT THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL TO HAVE ?
It's unavoidable with DSLRs that only have 60-odd focus points of variable quality to choose from. There are better options available for mirrorless. Its big advantage is that you can focus much more precisely over nearly the whole area of the screen and I exploit that to the full.
and by the way to being flamed for hiring this camera,in such short time, events brought the photoshoot upon me, I required a low light camera NO GRAIN. mine a 70D wont do that. I didnt want to have a few days to suss it, I like to plan well in advance, though hiring a camera for 4 weeks to allow for sussing it, IS EXTREEMELY EXPENSIVE !

all I want to do is get to use this as needed and have it behave like an optical 70D, no blackening out screens or moving focus points, and be allowed to ask a few questions, not be shot at .
It's a pity nobody told you a lot earlier to hire a 5D IV or a 6D II if you wanted the DSLR experience with 2½x the sensor area of your APS-C camera, but presumably it's too late for that now. I'm very sorry you had such a miserable birthday. But Andy01 did say in this thread 5 days ago

'Having the camera in One Shot (not Servo), with a single AF point (usually the centre point) and turn off subject detections and tracking will make it behave very much like your 70D.'
so the forum is not a place to ask , so if its not in the manual then sod off...I misunderstood the use of the forum it seems.

thanks for the defence by those upholding my need.

DBenz
 
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Hi,

So far from asking hire company and local camera shop, as couldnt see in manual, I am told press joystick centre and it centres it.
I did mention that as one solution
I go to a museum for my birthday to try this R6 Mk II out the day before its first photoshoot/ baptism of fire, and I have to use that centreing maybe 50 times, I am doing photogrammetry and take 300 shots of a merlin engine, I end the fast sequence, 1 shot every 5 secs, to find that folding the rear screen for my hold camera high shots and hold at waist height and knee height and floor height, enough to knacker some photographers, like a workout !...has seen that centre point focus move somewhere else.

sees focus point having shifted to the edge, so my shots are on something in the background.

Oh joy, so redo them another 300 again.

touching screen to move it moves focus point !

entire day keep centreing it.

get home and get told disble active screen, that does it, but then cant touch anything to alter deliberately.

Canon DONT HAVE A LOCK option for the focus points ..!

ISNT THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL TO HAVE ?

and by the way to being flamed for hiring this camera,in such short time, events brought the photoshoot upon me, I required a low light camera NO GRAIN. mine a 70D wont do that. I didnt want to have a few days to suss it, I like to plan well in advance, though hiring a camera for 4 weeks to allow for sussing it, IS EXTREEMELY EXPENSIVE !

all I want to do is get to use this as needed and have it behave like an optical 70D, no blackening out screens or moving focus points, and be allowed to ask a few questions, not be shot at .

so the forum is not a place to ask , so if its not in the manual then sod off...I misunderstood the use of the forum it seems.

thanks for the defence by those upholding my need.

DBenz
 
Hi,

So far from asking hire company and local camera shop, as couldnt see in manual, I am told press joystick centre and it centres it.
Here is the section of the manual about selecting the AF area: https://cam.start.canon/en/C012/manual/html/UG-05_AF-Drive_0060.html

Under the subsection Manually Setting AF Points or Zone AF Frames, we have
  • To center the AF point, press
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    straight in or tap
    icon_point_to_center.svg
I go to a museum for my birthday to try this R6 Mk II out the day before its first photoshoot/ baptism of fire, and I have to use that centreing maybe 50 times, I am doing photogrammetry and take 300 shots of a merlin engine, I end the fast sequence, 1 shot every 5 secs, to find that folding the rear screen for my hold camera high shots and hold at waist height and knee height and floor height, enough to knacker some photographers, like a workout !...has seen that centre point focus move somewhere else.
What focus mode are you in, what detection / tracking options do you have enabled. All these terms were suggested to you 4-5 days ago. What have you done in this time to familiarize yourself with the features of your camera?
Canon DONT HAVE A LOCK option for the focus points ..!

ISNT THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL TO HAVE ?
It's fundamental. And easily achieved. I can keep my focus point wherever I want to if my intention is for the camera to nor do any tracking or subject detection. The only question is why can't you. We need what settings you are shooting with to determine
and by the way to being flamed for hiring this camera,in such short time, events brought the photoshoot upon me, I required a low light camera NO GRAIN. mine a 70D wont do that. I didnt want to have a few days to suss it, I like to plan well in advance, though hiring a camera for 4 weeks to allow for sussing it, IS EXTREEMELY EXPENSIVE !
I don't understand your rant. I can understand you trying to spend less, and rent something on short notice. But then why would you rent a body you are completely unfamiliar with? And if you choose to, what are you ranting about? People use these camera to do do all sorts of shooting. If you are still learning about it, getting frustrated and typing in CAPS isn't going to speed that up
all I want to do is get to use this as needed and have it behave like an optical 70D, no blackening out screens or moving focus points, and be allowed to ask a few questions, not be shot at .
It cannot work as 70D unless you are willing to understand the differences and adapt. It is a much more capable camera than 70D with a lot more options which you may need to choose from. If you ask nicely, you may get better answers. If your show effort at learning, people may be more willing to spend time helping. If you only complain and want people to search for you, there will be some critical replies. That's life
so the forum is not a place to ask , so if its not in the manual then sod off...I misunderstood the use of the forum it seems.
Fine to ask. But start mixing it with complaints, rants and negative assertions and you start getting mixed replies. That's how open forums work. A lot of replies did ask you to spend some time with manual, which was very good advice for majority of questions you asked. The forum helped, I didn't see that acknowledged as much

5 days since the last question. The section of the manual on AF is shorter read than that. Did you get any answers there?

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But Andy01 did say in this thread 5 days ago

'Having the camera in One Shot (not Servo), with a single AF point (usually the centre point) and turn off subject detections and tracking will make it behave very much like your 70D.'
Yup, and for the AF to move around "unprompted" it seems to me like the OP was NOT using the settings I suggested - which I am fairly sure are mentioned somewhere in the manual.
so the forum is not a place to ask , so if its not in the manual then sod off...I misunderstood the use of the forum it seems.
To OP

It is not so much about not reading the manual (although that certainly is an issue as well) - you seemingly are not really taking on board the suggestions that people are giving you either - see above.
thanks for the defence by those upholding my need.

DBenz
You appear to chosen a sub-optimal tool for your job (hiring a completely new to you camera that is radically different your old 70D), just a few days from your important job, not enough time read the manual and get to grips with the new camera, create several posts criticising and complaining about the camera, apparently ignore direct advice on settings etc given to by forum members, and continue to blame the camera for what appears to be mostly a result of user error in settings. Unfortunately this situation appears to be largely of your own making.
 
Instead of all the berating, scolding, and criticizing, the response could simply have been:

There is no way to specifically "lock" the AF Point to screen middle, but alternatively, you can instantly center it by pressing either the Muli-function button, or the SET button when it's at its default.

Case closed!
 
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Instead of all the berating, scolding, and criticizing, the response could simply have been:

There is no way to specifically "lock" the AF Point to screen middle, but alternatively, you can instantly center it by pressing either the Muli-function button, or the SET button when it's at its default.

Case closed!
There are ways to achieve what he wants, which is to keep the focus point in middle without it automatically moving elsewhere. Whether that needs any "lock" or being in the correct settings is what people have been suggesting. That might help, if the user wants so, or we can close the case without further feedback

The berating is not for the question in title of post, some of us read the posts too (including other ones posted by OP in this forum).

Anyway, some good suggestions did flow through. Up to the OP now to pursue them or take the answer that it cannot be done

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Instead of all the berating, scolding, and criticizing, the response could simply have been:

There is no way to specifically "lock" the AF Point to screen middle,
While there may be no way to actually LOCK the AF point to the centre, I do think that if OP had chosen One Shot, Single point AF, selected centre, and disabled all subject or eye detection and tracking, and obviously not accidentally touched the screen or similar (which can be locked), there is no reason that the camera would have moved the AF point on it's own. It should have all behaved in a very similar fashion to the much loved 70D (which I also owned and enjoyed).

This was point out to OP several days ago, which appears to have been ignored, and now OP has come back complaining again.

So perhaps the "berating, scolding and criticizing" is a result of some frustration at OP not reading the manual, coming here for advice (with a flurry of questions, most of which are outlined in the manual), ignoring the advice and coming back to complain further.
but alternatively, you can instantly center it by pressing either the Muli-function button, or the SET button when it's at its default.

Case closed!
 
Instead of all the berating, scolding, and criticizing, the response could simply have been:

There is no way to specifically "lock" the AF Point to screen middle,
While there may be no way to actually LOCK the AF point to the centre, I do think that if OP had chosen One Shot, Single point AF, selected centre, and disabled all subject or eye detection and tracking, and obviously not accidentally touched the screen or similar (which can be locked), there is no reason that the camera would have moved the AF point on it's own. It should have all behaved in a very similar fashion to the much loved 70D (which I also owned and enjoyed).
It’s just not that. I’m in eye detect and tracking most of the time. However when I go into single point, etc nothing moves off centre because the joystick and LCD are disabled. If they were I’d just press the joystick in the centre.
This was point out to OP several days ago, which appears to have been ignored, and now OP has come back complaining again.

So perhaps the "berating, scolding and criticizing" is a result of some frustration at OP not reading the manual, coming here for advice (with a flurry of questions, most of which are outlined in the manual), ignoring the advice and coming back to complain further.
but alternatively, you can instantly center it by pressing either the Muli-function button, or the SET button when it's at its default.

Case closed!
 
Hi,

4 times in an hour session I had the little square end up top left or lower left, I have to tap the screen in the middle but takes a few taps to centre it accurately. the joystick can be used to nufge it about but is a bit hit and miss. its a bit left of centre and one tap of J'stick and its now too far right, another careful tap and another and then its centre.

I turn the lever to lock.

yet its moved again a while later.

on the 70D it occasionally moves, but not as easily as this.

How does one LOCK that single point focus in the middle ?

DBenz
Not sure what camera you have, but on the R6II, press the joystick and it centers the focus square. You can use the joystick to manually move it around, or press it like a button to center it.

Edit:

Also on the R6II you can press the lower left of the screen to prevent the camera from accidentally taking photos... And you can program the lock switch to prevent certain functions from happening. Such as disabling the touch screen. You can program this in the menus. So when you are walking around if the camera comes in contact with your shirt it will not trigger the focus point to move around or to switch settings on you.
Thanks very much for your tip to "press the joystick and it centers the focus square" . I had the same problem, but not any more.
 

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