How do you disable AI Servo?

Okay I see what your saying. As long as you have the shutter button half way down even after a focus lock if you move around the camera will continue to try to focus. AS long as you let go of the shutter button and re-press it right before the picture this has no effect. Whats the Issue??

Mac
I've had my DRebel for a month now and have never seen the AI Servo
kick in. What mode does the camera have to be in?? I always shoot
in "P" mode with center point selected and in single shot mode. I
was even out at the RC Air field the other day and took about 50
pictures of a fast moving plane and the AI servo didn't kick in. Do
you have to be in burst mode??
OK - do you have the kit lens? Put the camera in P mode, stand
about 6 feet from something with plenty of contrast and half-press
until focus locks on. As soon as it does, start moving towards the
subject. You'll hear the auto-focus motor stuttering. That's the AI
servo kicking in.

--
David Barker
 
Okay I see what your saying. As long as you have the shutter button
half way down even after a focus lock if you move around the camera
will continue to try to focus. AS long as you let go of the shutter
button and re-press it right before the picture this has no effect.
Whats the Issue??
the issue is that you can't track a moving subject. You cannot just pre-focus and wait for the proper moment..you cannot have any delay between the focusing and the shutter press...do you know what that means?

it means that you must be very lucky to get just the perfect moment right away.
Mac
I've had my DRebel for a month now and have never seen the AI Servo
kick in. What mode does the camera have to be in?? I always shoot
in "P" mode with center point selected and in single shot mode. I
was even out at the RC Air field the other day and took about 50
pictures of a fast moving plane and the AI servo didn't kick in. Do
you have to be in burst mode??
OK - do you have the kit lens? Put the camera in P mode, stand
about 6 feet from something with plenty of contrast and half-press
until focus locks on. As soon as it does, start moving towards the
subject. You'll hear the auto-focus motor stuttering. That's the AI
servo kicking in.

--
David Barker
--
I am not an English native speaker!
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Hi,

My EOS 300D does not switch to AI servo when I focus lock and then recompose (I haven't tested the camera under all situations, of course). In the test I just performed, I focus locked my own feet and then pointed my camera to my cat that is 12 feet away.

In P mode, central AF point selected: camera keeps my feet focused even if I point the camera to my cat (slowly, quickly whatever...), I cannot see any change in focus, nor hear the AF motor, etc.

In "Sports" mode: camera tries continuosly to focus whatever I'm pointing at.

I think that this is the behaviour we should expect, the only thing I miss is the ability to manually set the AF to servo in other modes than "Sports".

Regards,
xvrbx
I seem to be having the opposite problem that everybody else have.
Last weekend, I went out taking pictures of my girl friend. I
focus on my girlfriend by half-pressing, and then I recompose the
picture.

What I find afterward is that my subject is getting misfocused
because the AI Servo went into action and refocused when I panned
to recompose. What's the trick in keep the camera from refocusing?

--
John from Southern California
http://www.pbase.com/johnrweb/disneyconcerthall
http://www.pbase.com/domdom
F707 and 300D
When you recompose the camera automatically switches to AI servo
thinking the subject is moving, the only way to prevent it for me
is to recompose at the speed of light, mine does it all the time,
it does it in any mode as far as i know. I've emailed canon asking
how to disable it all together, but so far no response.
 
Keep you finger halfway down on the shutter button.

Mac
My EOS 300D does not switch to AI servo when I focus lock and then
recompose (I haven't tested the camera under all situations, of
course). In the test I just performed, I focus locked my own feet
and then pointed my camera to my cat that is 12 feet away.

In P mode, central AF point selected: camera keeps my feet focused
even if I point the camera to my cat (slowly, quickly whatever...),
I cannot see any change in focus, nor hear the AF motor, etc.

In "Sports" mode: camera tries continuosly to focus whatever I'm
pointing at.

I think that this is the behaviour we should expect, the only thing
I miss is the ability to manually set the AF to servo in other
modes than "Sports".

Regards,
xvrbx
I seem to be having the opposite problem that everybody else have.
Last weekend, I went out taking pictures of my girl friend. I
focus on my girlfriend by half-pressing, and then I recompose the
picture.

What I find afterward is that my subject is getting misfocused
because the AI Servo went into action and refocused when I panned
to recompose. What's the trick in keep the camera from refocusing?

--
John from Southern California
http://www.pbase.com/johnrweb/disneyconcerthall
http://www.pbase.com/domdom
F707 and 300D
When you recompose the camera automatically switches to AI servo
thinking the subject is moving, the only way to prevent it for me
is to recompose at the speed of light, mine does it all the time,
it does it in any mode as far as i know. I've emailed canon asking
how to disable it all together, but so far no response.
 
Daniella Thanks for the explanation.

So what your saying is in order to get perfectly focused pictures when shooting action you cannot compose the shot and waite for the action to happen with the shutter button half pressed because the camera will click into AI Servo mode and possibly focus on the background?

Mac
 
I've had my DRebel for a month now and have never seen the AI Servo
kick in. What mode does the camera have to be in?? I always shoot
in "P" mode with center point selected and in single shot mode. I
was even out at the RC Air field the other day and took about 50
pictures of a fast moving plane and the AI servo didn't kick in. Do
you have to be in burst mode??

Mac
I've emailed canon asking if they will disable this AF feature if i send them my camera, i personally think it is useless, if you can hold the AF point steady on your subject while panning then you don't need AI servo, and if you can't then AI servo will misfocus on the background anyway. Might work good for your 2 year old running around, but i don't have a 2 year old. I'm not going to turn around and sell the camera because of this, mainly because i will lose to much money, i'll simply wait it out and see what comes next.
 
No, Daniellla: TomCee pointed
it out correctly: you choose one
single point for focussing, but
then--instead of keeping the
shutter half pressed--you change
AF to MF on the lens (does not
take longer at all! Why should it?)
and then recompose: that way
you have your focus where you
wanted it, but your light metering
is still evaluative ( not partial).
Works all the time and seems
easy to me.

(You have a very good eye
for photography, Daniella.
But when technical quest-
ions are discussed here,
you never seem not to list-
en properly. Why is that?)

--
db.
that's exactly what I meant. If I use the 7 points focus and the
camera pick up points that are spread, lets say one on the left and
one of the right, then I get evaluative meetering. If the camera
would pick up onle the point on the right, then I get partial.

But since I am using the manualy selected central focusing point, I
always get exposure that is strongly weithted toward the center. I
don't want to use 7 points focus...it does not focus where I want
it to be, but I would like to be able to get evaluative no matter
what focusing point I use.

My only work around so far is to pay attention to focus right on
the edge of dark/light areas. I must constantly pay attention to
where exactly I focus on a contrasty subject...a pain in the ass!
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem that everybody else have.
Last weekend, I went out taking pictures of my girl friend. I
focus on my girlfriend by half-pressing, and then I recompose the
picture.

What I find afterward is that my subject is getting misfocused
because the AI Servo went into action and refocused when I panned
to recompose. What's the trick in keep the camera from refocusing?

--
John from Southern California
http://www.pbase.com/johnrweb/disneyconcerthall
http://www.pbase.com/domdom
F707 and 300D
--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
If Canon doesn't fix this problem then i'll have no choice, but to
look for another camera, it is getting so annoying, i'm sure canon
will say to send in my camera, but i don't feel it is mine or even
a select few, they all do it.
--
The FAQ is viewable at http://www.marius.org/eos300dfaq.php , and if
anyone wants to help contribute to it and maintain it, drop me an
email and let me know.
tell this little blue heron to stop walking will i switch to manual focus, i need to focus lock and pan quickly and i need to know the camera will not try to refocus while i'm doing it, so instead i simply pushed the button before the camera could switch to AI servo. I guess i need the 10d, but unfortunately i was under the impression that the rebel would not switch for a few seconds(few equals 3 mississippi). In my experience it's usually closer to 1 mississippi. Anyway can't change cameras now.

 
Daniella Thanks for the explanation.

So what your saying is in order to get perfectly focused pictures
when shooting action you cannot compose the shot and waite for the
action to happen with the shutter button half pressed because the
camera will click into AI Servo mode and possibly focus on the
background?

Mac
here's a bird i was shooting the other day, i was trying to prefocus on the birds head and then recompose to include all the birds body, i was using center focus in A-priority mode, almost everytime the camera would refocus on the birds body, that's why you don't see the rest of it's body because i wanted to atleast get a good focused head shot by not recomposing, the bird was moving and i was recomposing very quickly, it's almost as if the camera is fighting me. It's annoying to say the least.

 
FYI

I have one of the cameras in which AI server does not kick in easily (only in "Sports" mode).

Body: Digital Rebel (US)
Lens: EF-S 18-55 (Kit lens)
Firmware: 1.1.1

I will add more data as soon as I have the money to buy more glass for the camera. For the moment I just ordered 2 days ago a 50mm 1.8 prime.

Regards,
xvrbx
 
No, Daniellla: TomCee pointed
it out correctly: you choose one
single point for focussing, but
then--instead of keeping the
shutter half pressed--you change
AF to MF on the lens (does not
take longer at all! Why should it?)
and then recompose: that way
you have your focus where you
wanted it, but your light metering
is still evaluative ( not partial).
Works all the time and seems
easy to me.

(You have a very good eye
for photography, Daniella.
But when technical quest-
ions are discussed here,
you never seem not to list-
en properly. Why is that?)
I mentionned the same thing in a different thread. Daniella has been offered advice by other people on metering. She chose to dismiss the advice and bash the camera again. Maybe she should just get a 10D. Then complain about the focus "issues" on that one. Then get a 1Ds and find something wrong with that one. Maybe we should start a survey on how many people have ever used a camera with manual focus only. Those by the way usually didn't come with a built-in flash.

Richard
 
I meant "AI servo", of course :)
FYI

I have one of the cameras in which AI server does not kick in
easily (only in "Sports" mode).

Body: Digital Rebel (US)
Lens: EF-S 18-55 (Kit lens)
Firmware: 1.1.1

I will add more data as soon as I have the money to buy more glass
for the camera. For the moment I just ordered 2 days ago a 50mm
1.8 prime.

Regards,
xvrbx
 
I'm using the canon 400mm f5.6L which maybe making the problem worse, i'll have to do some testing with the kit lens verses the 400mm, i just wish i could disable AI servo alltogether.
 
In this situation why didn't you just select one off the right side focal points?? Why did you use the center?

Mac
I'm using the canon 400mm f5.6L which maybe making the problem
worse, i'll have to do some testing with the kit lens verses the
400mm, i just wish i could disable AI servo alltogether.
 
You know, this strikes me as something thar really warrants a
letter writing campaign to Canon. Yes?

I absolutely hate the AI focus mode. It ruins shots, and it
renders Canon's own lens feature of all-time manual focusing
useless (available on the 28-135 IS USM lens, but redered useless
on the 300d).

The vast bulk of photograhers have experience focusing in the
center and recomposing. This is not some minor thing; it gets in
the way of the fundamnetal photography workflow of 300 users.
I hope more people will take the time to email them, i don't want to choose the metering(unless they can add spot metering) i don't really want to choose the AF mode, i just want to disable this useless AI servo mode which is clearly just a marketing ploy. My fuji s602 had fulltime autofocus which seemed to work just as good as the 300d's AI servo, i never used it on the s602 because it could be shut off, The 300d's successor will probably have a stupid movie mode.
 
Ok, I finally triggered the AI servo, by following your directions. I focus locked my cat and then I moved towards the cat, I heards the AF motor and I visually saw the camera refocusing.

I admit it was not easy and for me it's almost impossible to do it with simple "pan and recompose". So it seems that my camera only switches to AI servo when it detects movement in towards the subject or in the opposite direction. If, on the contrary, I pan and recompose, the camera keeps the focus locked (i tried to pan even 180 degrees and make the camera point to subjects at a complete different distance than the original focus locked).

As far as I understand this should be the desirable behaviour, correct?

Regards,
xvrbx
I've had my DRebel for a month now and have never seen the AI Servo
kick in. What mode does the camera have to be in?? I always shoot
in "P" mode with center point selected and in single shot mode. I
was even out at the RC Air field the other day and took about 50
pictures of a fast moving plane and the AI servo didn't kick in. Do
you have to be in burst mode??
OK - do you have the kit lens? Put the camera in P mode, stand
about 6 feet from something with plenty of contrast and half-press
until focus locks on. As soon as it does, start moving towards the
subject. You'll hear the auto-focus motor stuttering. That's the AI
servo kicking in.

--
David Barker
 
Mac
I'm using the canon 400mm f5.6L which maybe making the problem
worse, i'll have to do some testing with the kit lens verses the
400mm, i just wish i could disable AI servo alltogether.
The offcenter focus points don't seem as accurate as the center focus point or is it just me? I really shouldn't have to though, the camera shouldn't try to refocus so quickly. I miss that about digiscoping with the nikon cp990, i always used the top focus point and it had no problem focusing on a hair on a gnats head, but the rebel has to have a good size object in order to focus, when this bird was a little further out i had to focus on the body because the camera couldn't lock focus on the thin head/neck of the bird, but that is another annoying issue which problem carries over to the 10d and other slr's.
 
or any other camera to that end

in fact, when i got my DR a couple of months ago, i made an
observation how bad it is comparing to almost any SLR and one of my
points was exactly that - sometimes you cannot recompose the shot.
gee, i was called a ****** and troll and whatever back then by the
same people who are replying to your post now and agreeing that
there is a problem with AI Focus.
Maybe a ******, but i call them how i see them. J/K, if you check my posts you will see one complaining about how i hate the AI servo focus.
 

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