R8 vs. R6 Mark II

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This question is supplemental to another one I've asked about the R10.

If I'm stills only, no video and I only photography things that are not moving, what would I lose by getting an R8 over an R6 Mark II?

I know about the lack of IBIS but I think that the IS in the RF lenses might be sufficient.

I also know about the lower res viewfinder but having an R10 I know what it looks like and that's not an issue.

What else might there be?
 
Dual card slots, general build quality, bigger battery,



R8 does 6 fps EFCS with no option for full mechanical shutter.



R6II does 12 fps in either full mechanical or EFCS.



Both do 5, 20, or 40 fps in electronic shutter though.

WiFi 2.4 and 5.0 as well as Bluetooth 5.1 on R6II

WiFi 2.4 only and Bluetooth 4.2 on R8.



I’ve noticed a big difference in connectivity using the Canon Connect app vs my RP with 4.2.



Just a few differences off the top of my head.
 
This question is supplemental to another one I've asked about the R10.

If I'm stills only, no video and I only photography things that are not moving, what would I lose by getting an R8 over an R6 Mark II?

I know about the lack of IBIS but I think that the IS in the RF lenses might be sufficient.

I also know about the lower res viewfinder but having an R10 I know what it looks like and that's not an issue.

What else might there be?
The battery and ergonomics are of course rather different for the R8 vs. R6II. The R8's battery is not that bad though in my opinion.

There's also the limited mechanical shutter on the R8 (EFCS only, 6ftps), single SD slot on R8, etc.

I would agree that RF lenses with IS are quite good on their own - it just depends what your needs are for what you want to do. There are some very nice RF lenses with no IS as well, which could be a limitation in some cases.

The R8 is of course lighter and smaller, which some people really like. It's also $1000 less expensive or so.

Ultimately just depends what matters to you.
 
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R8 is less well built. I had some problems with two new R8s about the grip cover; eventually I got the second fixed by Canon before the warranty expired, and it has been good so far, but I just subconsciously baby sit R8 now. YMMV. While my R5 is very solid and I don't baby sit it. The R6II build quality should be on par with R5.
 
Dual card slots, general build quality, bigger battery,

R8 does 6 fps EFCS with no option for full mechanical shutter.

R6II does 12 fps in either full mechanical or EFCS.

Both do 5, 20, or 40 fps in electronic shutter though.

WiFi 2.4 and 5.0 as well as Bluetooth 5.1 on R6II

WiFi 2.4 only and Bluetooth 4.2 on R8.

I’ve noticed a big difference in connectivity using the Canon Connect app vs my RP with 4.2.

Just a few differences off the top of my head.
OK. Well, of all those probably the card slots and no full mechanical shutter might be of some concern.
 
R8 is less well built. I had some problems with two new R8s about the grip cover; eventually I got the second fixed by Canon before the warranty expired, and it has been good so far, but I just subconsciously baby sit R8 now. YMMV. While my R5 is very solid and I don't baby sit it. The R6II build quality should be on par with R5

I beat the heck out of my R8 and have been since June of 2023 and haven’t been able to tear it up yet. I’m sure it’s not as well built as the R6 mk2 but the little thing is pretty darn tough in my experience.
 
This question is supplemental to another one I've asked about the R10.

If I'm stills only, no video and I only photography things that are not moving, what would I lose by getting an R8 over an R6 Mark II?

I know about the lack of IBIS but I think that the IS in the RF lenses might be sufficient.

I also know about the lower res viewfinder but having an R10 I know what it looks like and that's not an issue.

What else might there be?
On R8, just use e-shutter 20 or 40 fps if you need to capture a decisive moment.

On mechanical shutter, it doesn’t matter on bokeh unless you intend to but f1.3 or f1.4 primes and shoot in intense light where you are above SS 1/1000.

You can get an R 8 sometimes at the canon refurb store for $1000. Also I’ve seen refurb RF 24-105 F4L for $699. This is what I shoot most of the time.



Skip that APSc stuff unless you are birding with an R7
 
This question is supplemental to another one I've asked about the R10.

If I'm stills only, no video and I only photography things that are not moving, what would I lose by getting an R8 over an R6 Mark II?
I replaced my entire EF FF and EF-M APS-C system last year and made the choice between R10 + R8 or R7 + R6 (or ii). I wanted a compact and lightweight 2x body + 3-4 lens system suitable for general use and (importantly) international travel - since I am 60 and recently retired, so plan to do some traveling. Having the cameras share batteries and chargers was important to me.

For me the two biggest deciders were size/weight and the almighty dollar. This obviously pushed me to R10 & R8.

But in my opinion, and for my uses (which are probably different from many) the IBIS was a nice-to-have (but I figured I wouldn't miss what I have never had and all planned lenses had at least 5 stops of IS anyway, and I don't shoot video), the bigger batteries were also nice-to-have (but since I already had 2x spare LP-E17, got another 2x LP-E17 with the cameras, and bought a further 2x LP-E17 at a discount as part of the "deal", batteries were not of high importance to me).

The dual card slots were of minimal perceived benefit, since I don't sell my photos, and have never owned a camera with dual slots.

The better screens & EVF would have been nice but again, I don't miss what I never had and both R10 & R8 have better EVF than either my M3 add-on or the M5 EVF.

The lack of manual shutter on R8 has never affected me - because I don't have any super fast primes, and if I really need it, R10 has a manual shutter.

The "reduced" weatherproofing (which appears to be a light & fluffy Canon marketing term since there is never any standard or quantification) of R10 / R8 is not an issue to me because I don't make a habit of shooting in the rain, and only one of my new RF lenses is an L lens (though I do still have EF 100-400L ii).

IMO, the important bits, like sensor & AF, and most of the features, are the same (R8 vs R6 ii), so the rest of it is mostly nice-to-have fancy toppings.

So it came down to whether a few extra features (like a C3 mode) and IBIS were worth spending around AU$5900 (from memory) on the R7 + R6ii vs around AU$3200 for R10 + R8, AND carrying around the additional 400g (plus larger batteries & chargers, so probably 500g+) on international trips.

The answer (to me) was obvious - the "extra" AU$2700 paid for RF 24-105L f4 + RF 100-400 + 2x LP-E17 batteries and my back thanks me every time I walk around with the bag for several hours.

But different people have different priorities to mine.
I know about the lack of IBIS but I think that the IS in the RF lenses might be sufficient.

I also know about the lower res viewfinder but having an R10 I know what it looks like and that's not an issue.

What else might there be?
 
I have both and if you use them as e shutter cameras anyway in terms of output you lose nothing.

But of course only you can know if you need some of the missing features: i don't need IBIS (just use proper shutter speeds and you are fine even if the lens does not have OIS) and I often only use the R8 with the rear screen. I like the size and build of the R8 body and i have not used full mechanical shutter once in the last 5 years. For me the biggest drawback is the missing second card slots but again, no issues with card failures in the last ~10 years either.

I don't hesitate to use the R8 when I just want a light run and gun camera, even if I could pick the R5 II or the R6 II. It's a fun camera. The bigger bodies I use when I am a bit more "serious"about my shooting, but even here the R8 is usable, but here the EVF is not as great in comparison. Keeper rates are the same, sometimes I have the feeling that not having IBIS is even beneficial, as this technology has it's own quirks.
 
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On mechanical shutter, it doesn’t matter on bokeh unless you intend to but f1.3 or f1.4 primes and shoot in intense light where you are above SS 1/1000.
I've run into situations where the 1/8000th of a full mechanical shutter was too long anyway, and needed f/2.8 at 1/8000th, so if you want to cover all possible situations, you can't exclude filters anyway.
 
R8 is less well built. I had some problems with two new R8s about the grip cover; eventually I got the second fixed by Canon before the warranty expired, and it has been good so far, but I just subconsciously baby sit R8 now. YMMV. While my R5 is very solid and I don't baby sit it. The R6II build quality should be on par with R5
I beat the heck out of my R8 and have been since June of 2023 and haven’t been able to tear it up yet. I’m sure it’s not as well built as the R6 mk2 but the little thing is pretty darn tough in my experience.
 

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