- Sittatunga wrote:
It's a horrible format, so let's hope not.
In one of my many silly Samsung upgrades it reset my default from jpeg to heif. It was awful and it took me quite awhile to find the problem and reset it.
“Oh my Lord, it’s something new! Quick, get it away from me!!”
John, this is the nature of new things.
LCD panels now support 10-bit color, but JPEG cannot. That is why HEIF is so much better. We just need time for Microsoft and the others to come up to speed on it.
I'm sure they will the instant they don't have to pay licensing fees. The situation between the formats is a bit like the Betamax versus VHS struggle except that JPEG has had a 13 year start on HEIF and has already seen off JPEG 2000.
13 years? No, JPEG came out around 1990.
My apologies for the typo, it's nearly a 23 year start. According to Wikipedia, JPEG came out on 18 September, 1992 and HEIF was finalised in the middle of 2015.
JPEG2000 went nowhere. It’s not a competitor. If you want 10-bit color lossy, it’s HEIF.
HEIF isn't a competitor on ¾ of the laptops and desktops currently in use. I'm not saying that HEIF will go the way of JPEG 2000, but it's not immediately noticeably better than JPEG on a 6" / 150mm phone screen so it's only really relevant if you only want to reach the 1 person in 7 who uses macOS. By all means add HEIF output to cameras, though it's not a format most people can use. Look at HEIF images in the privacy of your own home by all means, but it isn't a useful publishing format.
The best-selling camera in the world is the iPhone and it shoots HEIF, not JPEG.
It's had between 20% and 24% (currently 16%) of global shipments since 2009, and their shipments exceeded 15% of global shipments for 32 of those 96 quarters, see
www.statistica.com/statistics/316459/global-market-share-of-apple-iphone/ . So, like computers, well under a quarter of smartphones produced since HEIF was a thing use HEIF. (I have twice been issued with an office iPhone in the days when they produced JPEGs and expected to take site inspection photos with it. It was unbelievably complicated to get photos from them into a Word document, particularly when IT forbade us to plug phones into computers for security reasons. I'm well shut of them now.)
It’s just silly that you’re thinking an inferior format is better. It’s not better and if you want better color and HDR in snapshots, you must use HEIF because JPEG cannot do it.
Actually 16 bit TIFF is a much better format for better colour and dynamic range, and just about any computer and display can use them. They are huge, though very useful for extreme colour and contrast stretches. But the human eye can distinguish between about a million and about 10 million colours, so 8 bits per channel (16 777 216 colours) is comfortably more than the human eye can see anyway. So the difference between JPEG and HEIF
as a display or printing format is the difference between 'more than adequate' and 'much more than adequate'. I'd rather edit lossless 14 bit RAW format files than any 8 or 10 bit format.
