Anyone have Canon Pro-100 and New Epson ET-8550?

Hi, I had a cannon pro 100 and bought an epson 8550, I really like the 8550, only problem I'm having is getting the epson print layout app which I'm told is excellent, I can't get it to work on my windows 11.

mick 560 said:

Hi, I had a cannon pro 100 and bought an epson 8550, I really like the 8550, only problem I'm having is getting the epson print layout app which I'm told is excellent, I can't get it to work on my windows 11.

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That is a concern because ultimately (?) all W10 users will have to update to W11

I don't recall other such posts as yours about EPL and W11 issues, so perhaps if you described in more details than the above, maybe others using W11 will be able to chip in with their feedback.

PS to avoid your question getting lost in this thread can I suggest you start a thread on the specific subject ?

many thanks for the info, i will try.

mick 560 said:

Hi, I had a cannon pro 100 and bought an epson 8550, I really like the 8550, only problem I'm having is getting the epson print layout app which I'm told is excellent, I can't get it to work on my windows 11.

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I'm using Epson print Layout on Win 11, no issues.

Ian

Thanks Ian, I have heard that it can be used on win 11 that's why I'm persevering, I'm thinking I might have a virus problem because strange things have been going on lately, like when I click on some photos up pops the download "epson print layout" and when clicking on other things the same thing keeps happening.

mick 560 said:

Thanks Ian, I have heard that it can be used on win 11 that's why I'm persevering, I'm thinking I might have a virus problem because strange things have been going on lately, like when I click on some photos up pops the download "epson print layout" and when clicking on other things the same thing keeps happening.

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Ouch! Not good.

On the Epson site it says that Win 11 is supported.

Ian

mick 560 said:

Thanks Ian, I have heard that it can be used on win 11 that's why I'm persevering, I'm thinking I might have a virus problem because strange things have been going on lately, like when I click on some photos up pops the download "epson print layout" and when clicking on other things the same thing keeps happening.

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At the very least you should be using Windows Defender but if not have you got an Anti Virus program installed......even if only one of the free ones?

Also, for Malware there is MalwareBytes.

In regard to EPL, did you download it from the Epson UK site ? I have noticed at least one unofficial EPL site that says the download links are to the official Epson site(s) but I personally would never use such a site!

Can I ask what precisely do you mean by "when I click on some photos up pops the download "epson print layout".

Is it a clickable link to some (spurious?) site that is not Epson...... actually I would never click on such a link. That sort of behaviour does sound like a Malware issue :scratches head:

Many thanks to everyone, I ended up resetting my pc and managed to download epson print layout at last and my other problems are sorted as well, thanks again, Mick.

As far as I can see there is nothing in the link you posted to back up your statement?

Keith Cooper advises the ET-8550 is NOT archival but certainly doesn't suggest prints have a life of 4 weeks. Have you had personal experience with this or can you supply a link that makes this assessment?

Cheers

Richard C

RichVic said:

As far as I can see there is nothing in the link you posted to back up your statement?

Keith Cooper advises the ET-8550 is NOT archival but certainly doesn't suggest prints have a life of 4 weeks. Have you had personal experience with this or can you supply a link that makes this assessment?

Cheers

Richard C

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Oh oh, here we go...

:-D

RichVic said:

As far as I can see there is nothing in the link you posted to back up your statement?

Keith Cooper advises the ET-8550 is NOT archival but certainly doesn't suggest prints have a life of 4 weeks. Have you had personal experience with this or can you supply a link that makes this assessment?

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I looked through A74Me's old comments, and they are mainly based on personal experience. However, I don't see any evidence at all that he has direct experience with the ET-8550, or its inks, despite saying in one thread that the images fade in "less than one week".

If his comments are to be taken at face value, he does have an awful lot of direct experience, using multiple printers and ink types, with prints fading, or with other forms of paper, print, or ink damage. It happens to him with unusual ease compared to what we hear from most users. I do have a non-technical and entirely rational explanation for that: it's a jinx.

Aizuri said:

RichVic said:

As far as I can see there is nothing in the link you posted to back up your statement?

Keith Cooper advises the ET-8550 is NOT archival but certainly doesn't suggest prints have a life of 4 weeks. Have you had personal experience with this or can you supply a link that makes this assessment?

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I looked through A74Me's old comments, and they are mainly based on personal experience. However, I don't see any evidence at all that he has direct experience with the ET-8550, or its inks, despite saying in one thread that the images fade in "less than one week".

If his comments are to be taken at face value, he does have an awful lot of direct experience, using multiple printers and ink types, with prints fading, or with other forms of paper, print, or ink damage. It happens to him with unusual ease compared to what we hear from most users. I do have a non-technical and entirely rational explanation for that: it's a jinx.

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Reminds me of the jinx (curse) that has apparently been put on @bmw44 , who has gone through five Epson P900 printers in two years...

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/67783085

wilberforce_1 said:

Aizuri said:

RichVic said:

As far as I can see there is nothing in the link you posted to back up your statement?

Keith Cooper advises the ET-8550 is NOT archival but certainly doesn't suggest prints have a life of 4 weeks. Have you had personal experience with this or can you supply a link that makes this assessment?

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I looked through A74Me's old comments, and they are mainly based on personal experience. However, I don't see any evidence at all that he has direct experience with the ET-8550, or its inks, despite saying in one thread that the images fade in "less than one week".

If his comments are to be taken at face value, he does have an awful lot of direct experience, using multiple printers and ink types, with prints fading, or with other forms of paper, print, or ink damage. It happens to him with unusual ease compared to what we hear from most users. I do have a non-technical and entirely rational explanation for that: it's a jinx.

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Reminds me of the jinx (curse) that has apparently been put on @bmw44 , who has gone through five Epson P900 printers in two years...

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/67783085

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A74Me said:

wilberforce_1 said:

Aizuri said:

RichVic said:

As far as I can see there is nothing in the link you posted to back up your statement?

Keith Cooper advises the ET-8550 is NOT archival but certainly doesn't suggest prints have a life of 4 weeks. Have you had personal experience with this or can you supply a link that makes this assessment?

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I looked through A74Me's old comments, and they are mainly based on personal experience. However, I don't see any evidence at all that he has direct experience with the ET-8550, or its inks, despite saying in one thread that the images fade in "less than one week".

If his comments are to be taken at face value, he does have an awful lot of direct experience, using multiple printers and ink types, with prints fading, or with other forms of paper, print, or ink damage. It happens to him with unusual ease compared to what we hear from most users. I do have a non-technical and entirely rational explanation for that: it's a jinx.

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Reminds me of the jinx (curse) that has apparently been put on @bmw44 , who has gone through five Epson P900 printers in two years...

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/67783085

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https://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/epson-claria-standard-ink-502.15440/

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Please can you link directly to mention of the Epson 552 inks (used in the ET-8550) which I surmise that you found faded so very quickly.

The only mention in the link you have posted was on page 3 and not in reference to fading tests.

NB here in the UK the inks are sold as 114 series.

The article you linked too is, or appears to be, primarily talking about 502 inks which are not designated as for the ET-8550

Epson 552, Black Ink Bottle | Epson US

nikaga said:

Epson 552, Black Ink Bottle | Epson US

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Sorry I am not sure why you replied to me with the information about a US source of the ET-8550 inks.

What I hope is that the poster (A74me) I replied to will qualify why he posted a link, apparently in regard to his claim about rapid fading, that as far I read it......does nothing of the sort!

Box Brownie said:

nikaga said:

Epson 552, Black Ink Bottle | Epson US

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Sorry I am not sure why you replied to me with the information about a US source of the ET-8550 inks.

What I hope is that the poster (A74me) I replied to will qualify why he posted a link, apparently in regard to his claim about rapid fading, that as far I read it......does nothing of the sort!

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because i have an epson office printer that uses the same ink. a guy at our photography club has the 8550 so im going to get a print from him and do a side by side test with my pro 200 same paper ect. so we will have a difinitive outcome. if the epson stacks up i will buy one if not my new pro 200 will be my main printer, i still have test prints that are now 6 months old from the pro 10s and my pro 200, would you like to make comment on how you think the test images are going ?

A74Me said:

Box Brownie said:

nikaga said:

Epson 552, Black Ink Bottle | Epson US

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Sorry I am not sure why you replied to me with the information about a US source of the ET-8550 inks.

What I hope is that the poster (A74me) I replied to will qualify why he posted a link, apparently in regard to his claim about rapid fading, that as far I read it......does nothing of the sort!

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because i have an epson office printer that uses the same ink

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Same as the 502 inks in the linked discussion?

Such office printers are not aimed at photo printing usages and the inks used are for more ephemeral prints that if kept long term stored at all are likely kept in flies & document folders.

The fact that they can print acceptably good looking photos is a bonus.

The 502 ink is not an identical ink to the 552 Claria Premium ET used in the ET-8550 unless you know of a definitive link to a chemical analysis to show otherwise?

Or have I misunderstood your reply above !

A74Me said:

. a guy at our photography club has the 8550 so im going to get a print from him

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Hopefully he is using OEM inks and can provide you a print on Epson paper(s)

A74Me said:

and do a side by side test with my pro 200 same paper ect. so we will have a difinitive outcome. if the epson stacks up i will buy one if not my new pro 200 will be my main printer, i still have test prints that are now 6 months old from the pro 10s and my pro 200, would you like to make comment on how you think the test images are going ?

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I have no idea what your Canon prints look like and why should I speculate! But surmise based on your invitation to comment, that they are fine.

Having said that, I have 8550 prints made approx 12 months back and they are absolutely fine as are some prints I made on my old and now sold Canon TS8250 with its OEM ink and Canon paper that were printed around 5 years ago.

My prints have not been placed with longevity testing in mind i.e. they are on display in the lounge and have little exposure to direct sun but where/when it does occur the curtains get drawn as we don't want our furniture to fade.

PS I wonder if anyone has bothered(?) to subject the Epson inks to full chemical analysis to determine the differences between 502 and 552 inks? At the very least chromatography testing?

A74Me said:

because i have an epson office printer that uses the same ink. a guy at our photography club has the 8550 so im going to get a print from him and do a side by side test with my pro 200 same paper ect. so we will have a difinitive outcome. if the epson stacks up i will buy one if not my new pro 200 will be my main printer

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You already said the following about the ET-8550, so no further tests would be necessary. Certainly no one is urging an ET-8550 on you, or inviting your self-imposed wager. They engage with you to counter probable disinformation, that's all.

1. "i have looked through the internet 100 times and not 1 person has ever done a test, so that tells me the inks are not good."

2. "and the prints fade within a week, ive done the tests, they are a home office printer not a pro printer."

3. "on eco printer and currently have a Brother eco printer for office work and have an epson photo printer that i use only for folder making did tests with all 3, i actually thought the epson being a so called photo printer would be ok , prints lasted 2 weeks before they started fading."

4. "with a print longevity of 4 weeks"