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Which Olympus camera to get?
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InkedMarie
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Please post on your thoughts on the 5.3. I’ve been looking at both as well as an upgrade to my em10iv.
shinndigg
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... and have no regrets. Seeing that you have a 4 year warranty, I'd say that's a great option.
Believe it or not, I had exactly this problem with my brand-new OM-5 last week, where the e-shutter worked, but the mechanical shutter produced a dull clunk (and no image recorded). I thought the camera was broken, but when I switched batteries the problem disappeared. I had purchased a (fake?) Olympus BLS-50 on eBay, and it wasn't working correctly. The OM-5 works fine with any other battery, and that eBay battery is still good enough for the E-PL7.
Based on the fact the your camera starts working when you switch on, and then fails, it sounds a lot like a battery problem. Try your E-M5.3 battery in the E-M5.1.
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Thank you all for the additional feedback.
I have some spare batteries for my 10.1, although I had already switched from one battery to another during the technological issues. Will try again, however (or maybe the batteries just need to be replaced?). I will note that it's been harder to get the batteries in and out of the battery area (needs some jiggling and shaking to get the battery moving out).
To clarify, the 4-year warranty was on the 10.4. That is still available at Best Buy on clearance for $560 (plus $110 for the warranty).
I ordered the 5.3 from Glazer's and it shipped today, so it will hopefully be in my hands soon. (I clicked on a link from an interview DPReview had with it earlier this year...perhaps the forum will get a bonus of some sort?) There's a 90-day warranty (MPB offers a 180-day one), so I don't think it's going to be a dud, but there was no long-term warranty I could purchase for additional peace of mind. But the camera was such a good deal that I'm willing to take a gamble on not having an extra warranty.
Of course, my spouse thinks I should have gotten the OM-5. "Why did you get a used camera?" Of course, I'm the more frugal one in the family.
It's just a hard mental leap to pay about 2.5x more than my previously most expensive camera, when the 5.3 is less than 20% more.
I'll report back once I've had a chance to try the 5.3. I imagine it'll be such a big leap from the 10.1 that I'll be super happy with it...and if not, I can always do a return and get the OM-5 at that point.
I have some spare batteries for my 10.1, although I had already switched from one battery to another during the technological issues. Will try again, however (or maybe the batteries just need to be replaced?). I will note that it's been harder to get the batteries in and out of the battery area (needs some jiggling and shaking to get the battery moving out).
To clarify, the 4-year warranty was on the 10.4. That is still available at Best Buy on clearance for $560 (plus $110 for the warranty).
I ordered the 5.3 from Glazer's and it shipped today, so it will hopefully be in my hands soon. (I clicked on a link from an interview DPReview had with it earlier this year...perhaps the forum will get a bonus of some sort?) There's a 90-day warranty (MPB offers a 180-day one), so I don't think it's going to be a dud, but there was no long-term warranty I could purchase for additional peace of mind. But the camera was such a good deal that I'm willing to take a gamble on not having an extra warranty.
Of course, my spouse thinks I should have gotten the OM-5. "Why did you get a used camera?" Of course, I'm the more frugal one in the family.
It's just a hard mental leap to pay about 2.5x more than my previously most expensive camera, when the 5.3 is less than 20% more. I'll report back once I've had a chance to try the 5.3. I imagine it'll be such a big leap from the 10.1 that I'll be super happy with it...and if not, I can always do a return and get the OM-5 at that point.
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Just a quick work of caution. I a mix of OEM and aftermarket batteries in my OM-5 and EM-10 IV, but if any one starts to get hard to get out…. into the junk it goes, a sure sign it’s gone bad.Thank you all for the additional feedback.
I have some spare batteries for my 10.1, although I had already switched from one battery to another during the technological issues. Will try again, however (or maybe the batteries just need to be replaced?). I will note that it's been harder to get the batteries in and out of the battery area (needs some jiggling and shaking to get the battery moving out).
To clarify, the 4-year warranty was on the 10.4. That is still available at Best Buy on clearance for $560 (plus $110 for the warranty).
I ordered the 5.3 from Glazer's and it shipped today, so it will hopefully be in my hands soon. (I clicked on a link from an interview DPReview had with it earlier this year...perhaps the forum will get a bonus of some sort?) There's a 90-day warranty (MPB offers a 180-day one), so I don't think it's going to be a dud, but there was no long-term warranty I could purchase for additional peace of mind. But the camera was such a good deal that I'm willing to take a gamble on not having an extra warranty.
Of course, my spouse thinks I should have gotten the OM-5. "Why did you get a used camera?" Of course, I'm the more frugal one in the family.
I'll report back once I've had a chance to try the 5.3. I imagine it'll be such a big leap from the 10.1 that I'll be super happy with it...and if not, I can always do a return and get the OM-5 at that point.
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A very important feature is AF capbility. Em5iii and OM5 have PDAF , and em10 only has CDAF.
This feature alone justify the purchase of an em5iii or om5. It provides far better face eye recognition and tracking for family kids photos. Om5 should do better, but If you able to do some savings getting a good deal on em5iii, invest them in a lens
This feature alone justify the purchase of an em5iii or om5. It provides far better face eye recognition and tracking for family kids photos. Om5 should do better, but If you able to do some savings getting a good deal on em5iii, invest them in a lens
gary0319
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All true. However the E-M10 IV has a much improved CDAF from earlier models. Still not up in par with the PDAF, but pretty good for all but fast sports and birds in flight..A very important feature is AF capbility. Em5iii and OM5 have PDAF , and em10 only has CDAF.
This feature alone justify the purchase of an em5iii or om5. It provides far better face eye recognition and tracking for family kids photos. Om5 should do better, but If you able to do some savings getting a good deal on em5iii, invest them in a lens
It'll be a huge jump in many ways, enjoy!
I remember shooting the E-M10 mkI & mkII and lots of little features and the EVF really made it feel nicer to use. And when I had a E-M5 III for a short time (ergonomics didn't work but I have messed up hands so don't worry) it was an even bigger jump. The thing really is just a E-M1 mkII in a smaller body and the IBIS especially is going to be a massive jump for you coming from the 10 mkI.
I remember shooting the E-M10 mkI & mkII and lots of little features and the EVF really made it feel nicer to use. And when I had a E-M5 III for a short time (ergonomics didn't work but I have messed up hands so don't worry) it was an even bigger jump. The thing really is just a E-M1 mkII in a smaller body and the IBIS especially is going to be a massive jump for you coming from the 10 mkI.
A swollen battery is yet another sign of a dying battery.
Get it out of the camera before it gets stuck.
A new OM-5 costs about twice a used E-M5.3, and the differences are not that noticeable. The improved face detection is the only thing I would miss. The other new features are rarely used in my everyday photography.
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Thanks for the advice on the swollen batteries...2 will be taken to be recycled in the near future.
Does anyone have experience with the regular Olympus battery swelling, or just the off-brand ones? I had Wasabi spare batteries which did well for a number of years. I just don't know if the failure is likely to happen to any battery, or more likely to happen with the knock-offs.
In looking at Adorama & B&H it appears that that the Jupio and to a lesser degree the Watson batteries have had this issue. Are there any brands that board members would recommend? Or should I just stick with the regular Olympus battery?
Does anyone have experience with the regular Olympus battery swelling, or just the off-brand ones? I had Wasabi spare batteries which did well for a number of years. I just don't know if the failure is likely to happen to any battery, or more likely to happen with the knock-offs.
In looking at Adorama & B&H it appears that that the Jupio and to a lesser degree the Watson batteries have had this issue. Are there any brands that board members would recommend? Or should I just stick with the regular Olympus battery?
MyReality
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I have never heard of swollen. Maybe possible if you bought bogus ones at a price that seemed too good to be tree.
I have used Artman brand lithium-ion batteries in my Nikons and Canons for a long time without any problems. The ratings on Amazon were right on.
I have used Artman brand lithium-ion batteries in my Nikons and Canons for a long time without any problems. The ratings on Amazon were right on.
After my experience with the eBay BLS-50, I'm sticking to genuine. It failed after only four months, but I have never had a genuine Olympus battery last less than four years.
Michael Meissner
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Ummm, the E-m5 mark I uses a BLN-1 battery. The E-m5 mark III uses a BLS-50 battery. They are different sizes.
David5833
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IMHO the focus bracketing and stacking features of the E-M5iii are far more useful for macro than HHHR would have been if you had chosen the OM-5. You can't use any HR mode with focus bracketing unless you control the focus steps manually or remotely, nor could you stack a focus bracketed series of HHHR or HR frames in-camera, so I doubt that HHHR will be missed. If you want to try HR, then a tripod is usually necessary with the E-M5iii. Likewise, if you want to do macro it's worth the inconvenience to bring a tripod. For regular old close-ups of flowers you have lots of options but hand-held, standard resolution, single frames are usually good enough. A lot depends on how technical you want to get, how you view the images, and how critical you want to be.
On the subject of tripods, be aware that the baseplate around the tripod socket of the E-M5iii can break if used with some accessories, so don't use it for a strap attachment or with something like a PD Capture Clip. Use the tripod socket only to mount on a tripod and don't over-stress it and you should have no problems. There are a bunch of threads here about this issue so you might want to familiarize yourself with it.
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MyReality
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That is an issue of concern. I wonder if the OM-1 or OM-5 slot is like that. I am considering purchasing an OM-5 in the future.
I second this, because in macro the constraint is depth-of-field, not low resolution. HHHR will produce high-resolution images that are mostly out-of-focus. Focus stacking actually extends the DOF.
Alternatively, a flash will let you shoot at base ISO and focus-stack (or use a smaller aperture), with a fast enough shutter for handholding. A flash diffuser is recommended.
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