DPReview Shutdown Thread - Nikon Z

I have to disagree. There are very few forums with the tracking and visual aids DPR offers. I can visually scan the list and see what I've read, what's new, when the last posts were. Not to mention the dark mode. DPR is kind of unique. Look how bad/ugly reddit, FM, and Adobe support sites are.

Not to mention the extensive consistently formatted database. Comments on articles are very useful. This site was moderated (for better or worse) pretty well.
 
As mentioned below here are a couple I think are very good!

Backcountry Gallery (Steve Perry)


Also Fred Miranda

 
I would not be surprised if Amazon has been involved in trying to sell the site. This announcement with the abrupt deadline puts pressure on the interested parties to close a deal. The announcement also grabs the attention of any interested parties.

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So, after being on here for almost 19 years and almost 35,000 posts, the site is going to close. A pity, as there are so many very knowledgeable people here that have been a great help to all, people like AnotherMike, Marianne Oelund, Bobn2, Jim Kasson and many, many more. Some excellent photographers as well and many lovely people. I have also made a number of great friendships of people from this site and some from other countries - I have even met some of these people when travelling in those countries and formed great friendships with them. Unfortunately, one very dear friend I met here on DPR from the UK passed away from pancreatic cancer a number of years back, such a wonderful friend whom I miss dearly.

I started out on the Pentax DSLR forum in 16th July, 2004. I wanted a FF camera and Pentax didn't seem to be going there so, I sold my Pentax DSLR's and lenses and moved to a Nikon D700 in May 2010. What a camera! So, here I am today.

Anyway, there are a number of excellent Nikon forums which have already been suggested by others. Hope to see you there.
 
The flip side (phone reference) of that is people are taking more photos and videos than ever before.

I kind of had to laugh at the last F1 race where there were hundreds of people with $10,000 seats holding their phones up to watch their phone instead of just watching (and enjoying) the race live in front of them. They were all capturing the same low quality video, and worse yet most of them were VERTICAL! LOL

I'd also argue that the technology isn't evolving quickly enough. A D7200 is still a pretty decent camera even compared to a Z50/Zfc/Z30. It doesn't necessarily mean people aren't shooting with ILC's.
 
One good new:

Surprize !

Nic & Jor >> on PetaPixel

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My thanks to Phil -- along with other sites' pioneers -- for documenting the incredible digital revolution that has occurred in photography.

Thanks to everyone else -- read: you -- for the dialogue over what now amounts to decades.

A common denominator that brought many of us here was 'change'... as in changing technology. I sure didn't see this particular change coming!

Cheers!
 
Sad to see the site go, but then again one less time wasting temptation. DPReview obsession got me in trouble with the wife more than once, lol. Its not a big surprise. I started my DSlr journey near the peak and ive watched things get quieter these past few years. Amazon is among a majority of big tech that have all gone into group think contraction mode. Google, amazon, facebook, microsoft all laying off thousands at a clip and restructuring to focus on core business sectors right now.
 
This is a huge loss. I would like and love to see this website to remain online in read-only mode, or have the forums transferred to another website.

Photo.net comes to mind.

A shoot out to all who have contributed to teaching and sharing with others. A few of you have inspired and helped me to launch my own career in photography. For that I will forever be grateful and so lots of love to you.

A special shoot out and love to Marianne Oelund and anotherMike as your messages stood out at the time I was learning.

Thanks to all and take care!
 
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Well that came out of the blue - a huge surprise, totally shocking and very sad.

There is no other photography related site on the web that is completely non brand specific, not merely covering cameras and lenses but with wide coverage of all aspects of photographic related activity.

So much valuable information and data on this site that will be lost if it doesn't get rescued. The camera and lens databases alone for example.

The forums are unique. Find another site that supports threaded view forum threads the way DPR does it! There is probably 10 times more activity on this site than all the other photography sites put together and often with valuable specialised knowledge offered many outstanding contributors - so if it truly disappears then that will be a massive loss to the whole photographic community.

Let's hope at least some of this can be salvaged.

Frank
 
From a youtube comment below Chris & Jordan's latest video:

Never expected Pentax to last longer than DPReview TV..

;-)

Still, sad news. This website is so helpful...
A lot of people will be surprised that M43 outlasted DPreview
 
Sad to see this site go. It's not just the Nikon forums. The fact that all brands are represented here is an invaluable asset. It's not just the forums either. The site is a good resource for a number of various different photography announcements.

What's the "however"? I'll probably get 20 hours of my life back per week. It's my own fault, no one else to blame. But this site has sucked way too many hours out of my life that could have been better spent doing something else.
 
I have to disagree. There are very few forums with the tracking and visual aids DPR offers. I can visually scan the list and see what I've read, what's new, when the last posts were. Not to mention the dark mode. DPR is kind of unique. Look how bad/ugly reddit, FM, and Adobe support sites are.

Not to mention the extensive consistently formatted database. Comments on articles are very useful. This site was moderated (for better or worse) pretty well.
dpreview was the very first site on the web that had a dark mode one could toggle to. No other forum sites has as elegant of a UI as dpreview. I first came across it in 2000 when I was shopping for my first digital camera (which was a Nikon Coolpix 990, a gift for college graduation from my Dad).

No other photography (or electronics in general) site comes even remotely close to dpreview in terms of quality of UI and depth of camera/equipment reviews. The camera reviews should be preserved for future generations. They are that good.
 
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Very sad and a little strange.

I wonder what the mechanics are for shutting down such an established website? I can't imagine any metric where revisions wouldn't have made more sense than throwing out such a key resource.

Oh well.

The good news? Something will rise to take its place.

Robert
We've had some laughs over the years, some back and forth.

I don't think anything will rise up and take it's place. Huge membership here, huge volume of information stored in those threads, put together over a lot of years. Usernames that will / may change in shift to other forums; many won't even bother to move.

FM is nowhere near as good as here, particularly the interface of it.
 
Wow, 20 years since I came on here as a brand new D100 owner in March of 2003!

In the early days, I was a digital newbie - I discovered quite quickly that having a degree from RIT from the film era meant little when it came to digital in some ways, so that meant a serious amount of education and exploring was in order. Today I wouldn't shoot film if you paid me to. From a lens perspective, at that time I was a test site junkie - give me the score, that was all you needed. Oh how wrong I was.

Thanks to Thom Hogan for the education, through his CDs and writings, in the early days of digital, and thanks to some great authors (Dan Margulis, Martin Evening, a few more whose names have faded) as I got a lot better in the digital realm fairly quickly. Lots of reading, lots of shooting.

From a lens perspective, being a test oriented person, I always had trouble with the correlation I wasn't seeing between the few available test sites and real life, and thankfully ran into Rorsletts great site back then, and learned a lot. Further reading, probably peaking in the past 5 years with the contributions from ex dpreview contributor Brandon Dube, an actual lens design student (and now designer) and the great writings and tests from Roger Cicala totally and completely re-educated me. Every article I could read, every book, every interview, I tackled to try and better understand the complexity of evaluating, truly evaluating, lens performance. I think I have a good handle on what occurs today, but I also remember that in the early days, I was wrong. A lot. So that means what I write today might be different from what I learn next week. Got to remind myself to never stop thinking, and to admit being wrong should new knowledge supplant old.

My two sided personality (either really nice or highly aggressive) didn't likely garner me a lot of "forum friends" along the way, but I am what I am, and call things like I see them. I still struggle to understand why so many are so emotionally attached to gear, to the point of being so vile and threatening, including in messages. I have always been one who believes in passing along knowledge, and hope I've done so, but the other side of the coin is I don't suffer fools or idiots at all, probably less so than anyone on the planet. And that's where the frustration side of dpreview forums certainly came in. Too many old, obstinate posters unwilling to learn, unwilling to admit they were wrong, and likely incapable of learning. A sad state. Between that and the dual obsession of test charts and MTF50 scores on one hand and the addition to some random, likely paid-off Youtuber on the other hand, it's even sadder. Add in the psuedo-science ("internal contrast", "inter tonal detail", etc) and the garbage that came out of the "all modern lenses render flat" nonsense, it's even more maddening.

On the positive side, I've "met" a lot of very interesting people in the forums and had some great discussions through messages and conversations in threads. I'll miss that, and for some folks, I'll continue that via other methods. I don't see joining a new site and continuing with forum contributions from here on - 20 years is likely enough, but we'll see how I feel about it down the road. I'm sure I'll have a few posts to write before the "end" of this site though.

Overall, it was a good run. I hope I've been able to reach a few folks with defensible, logical arguments that explained things that might lead to someones *own* exploration and testing - I never proclaimed to be the ultimate lens whisperer - I just want people to think on their own and go a bit deeper than what appears on the surface. As usual, I'll leave everyone with this, my oft quoted saying that is so vitally important: "Nothing can be more potentially misleading than an incomplete or improperly done test".

And that's that...

-m
 
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In order to prevent a dozen similar threads, this thread will act as the thread to discuss DPR closing its doors in the context of the Nikon Z system. Other threads will be locked. General thoughts also welcome, but hopefully community members can discuss other forum options moving forward.
This was predicted some years ago. I'm surprised it has taken so long.
 
Sad news. This site was always a great source of help when trying to solve problems or to better understand something photographic. It was also fun to help others whenever I could to pay back what I got. It will be missed :-(

Russell
 
I have emailed petapixel editor to aee if they can recreate these forums over there..
 

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