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just wondering why would Canon release R6 Mark II after only 2 years? is there a real reason or a mahor Problem?

in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
 
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Stollen1234 said:
just wondering why would Canon release R6 Mark II after only 2 years? is there a real reason or a mahor Problem?

in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
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The problem (IMO) is that the R6's unit sales have not been up to par in this very important market segment, esp after the introduction of the R7. Canon had to make this move to have a more capable, more viable, and thus more popular body at this price point. It had nothing to do with age or refresh cycle.

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Could be issues related to sales, marketing, inventory, cost, part availability, and possibly several others. I doubt we'll ever know.
 
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Not competitive with others' offerings.
 
R2D2 said:
Stollen1234 said:
just wondering why would Canon release R6 Mark II after only 2 years? is there a real reason or a mahor Problem?

in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
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The problem (IMO) is that the R6's unit sales have not been up to par in this very important market segment, esp after the introduction of the R7. Canon had to make this move to have a more capable, more viable, and thus more popular body at this price point. It had nothing to do with age or refresh cycle.

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It's not only the body. It's also the sensor. At the same time the newer sensor is 24Mp only, which is still not a whole lot compared to the R or the A7IV.

Strange move imo.
 
Nobody here will have an answer for you.

My theory, maybe they started running out of 1DXIII sensors and didn't want to fab more, so they moved to a new (or reused) sensor and improved some minor things, and released it at the same price.

The R6II is more of a re-release than an actual mkII. If R6 sales were down, I doubt this revision would change that.
 
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thunder storm said:
R2D2 said:
Stollen1234 said:
just wondering why would Canon release R6 Mark II after only 2 years? is there a real reason or a mahor Problem?

in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
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The problem (IMO) is that the R6's unit sales have not been up to par in this very important market segment, esp after the introduction of the R7. Canon had to make this move to have a more capable, more viable, and thus more popular body at this price point. It had nothing to do with age or refresh cycle.

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It's not only the body. It's also the sensor. At the same time the newer sensor is 24Mp only, which is still not a whole lot compared to the R or the A7IV.
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While the megapixel race between R6ii and A7IV is lost, the R6ii wins on all other fronts (fps, no crop 4k60, rolling shutter, etc) People that buy in this price range look further then only megapixels.
 
Avenger20 said:
thunder storm said:
R2D2 said:
Stollen1234 said:
just wondering why would Canon release R6 Mark II after only 2 years? is there a real reason or a mahor Problem?

in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
Click to expand...
The problem (IMO) is that the R6's unit sales have not been up to par in this very important market segment, esp after the introduction of the R7. Canon had to make this move to have a more capable, more viable, and thus more popular body at this price point. It had nothing to do with age or refresh cycle.

R2
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It's not only the body. It's also the sensor. At the same time the newer sensor is 24Mp only, which is still not a whole lot compared to the R or the A7IV.
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While the megapixel race between R6ii and A7IV is lost, the R6ii wins on all other fronts (fps, no crop 4k60, rolling shutter, etc)
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Yeah o.k.
Avenger20 said:
People that buy in this price range look further then only megapixels.
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I bought in a price range where people don't look any further. Short sighted, I know. ;-)
 
Lackluster sales and I'm guessing relatively easy upgrades to implement.
 
Stollen1234 said:
in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
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Those days have been and gone - competition is moving too fast now.

For it's early mirrorless iterations, Sony had a refresh timeline of way under 2 years.

I'd imagine full frame mirrorless is probably the last consistently profitable area in photography left, and all the manufacturers are fighting hard for our wallet share, which ultimately benefits us.
 
I'm thinking they didn't plan on a substantial update in the coming years because they they didn't have much in the pipeline as far as new features so they stuffed all the current updates in this mid cycle update to allow for a significant amount of time before they need to address it with a substantial update.

But who knows, maybe they simply want to shorten the development times and go to a 2-3 years lifecycle.

Very difficult to say.
 
I have used R6 original for about a year and then traded for R5. I felt that it wasn't worth the money. I mean it was good camera, but the resolution was really a bummer. I always felt something missing out.

On the other hand R5 feels a lot more satisfactory. I don't exactly know what's the difference, but I guess 45mp pictures are really standing apart.

May be that was the feeling for most people and thus reflected in the sales chart. I'm not sure how much better mk II is, but looks like very difficult to pull off a winner which is sandwiched between R7 and R5.

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Gam3r01 said:
Nobody here will have an answer for you.

My theory, maybe they started running out of 1DXIII sensors and didn't want to fab more, so they moved to a new (or reused) sensor and improved some minor things, and released it at the same price.

The R6II is more of a re-release than an actual mkII. If R6 sales were down, I doubt this revision would change that.
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We will never know the real reason but my suspicion is a supply issue like this.
 
thunder storm said:
R2D2 said:
Stollen1234 said:
just wondering why would Canon release R6 Mark II after only 2 years? is there a real reason or a mahor Problem?

in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
Click to expand...
The problem (IMO) is that the R6's unit sales have not been up to par in this very important market segment, esp after the introduction of the R7. Canon had to make this move to have a more capable, more viable, and thus more popular body at this price point. It had nothing to do with age or refresh cycle.

R2
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It's not only the body. It's also the sensor. At the same time the newer sensor is 24Mp only, which is still not a whole lot compared to the R or the A7IV.
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LOL, I meant the whole body, sensor and all. ;-)
thunder storm said:
Strange move imo.
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Actually IMHO the original R6 was a strange move. The new R6ii body spec is much more mainstream, and I think it'll be extremely capable.

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Occams Razor said:
Lackluster sales and I'm guessing relatively easy upgrades to implement.
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I get what you mean, but I'd hardly say the R6 had lackluster sales. It took the better part of 6 months to be able to buy it off the shelves, and more than a year for stable inventory.
 
noggin2k1 said:
Stollen1234 said:
in the Past Canpn would wait 3 to 5 years to release the next model.
Click to expand...
Those days have been and gone - competition is moving too fast now.

For it's early mirrorless iterations, Sony had a refresh timeline of way under 2 years.

I'd imagine full frame mirrorless is probably the last consistently profitable area in photography left, and all the manufacturers are fighting hard for our wallet share, which ultimately benefits us.
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Someone had to say it. At last somebody did. Lol
 
Avenger20 said:
Avenger20 said:
It's not only the body. It's also the sensor. At the same time the newer sensor is 24Mp only, which is still not a whole lot compared to the R or the A7IV.
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While the megapixel race between R6ii and A7IV is lost, the R6ii wins on all other fronts (fps, no crop 4k60, rolling shutter, etc) People that buy in this price range look further then only megapixels.
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True, but then they loose on native lens availability....it's the biggest con to consider.
 
Well 20mp FF was an oddity compared to other FF m/l(apart from the A7s series), so people from other brands maybe thought it too low in resolution.

So Canon has put a product in place to compete at mid 20smp segment( Lmount,Nikon),Its the place for entry and mid level to compete.

I briefly used a R6, very nice and Mk 1.6 rounded up to 2,is very NICER.
 
I like this part.

According to Canon, the R6 II incorporates more machine learning into its AF algorithms and inherits some of the technology from its flagship EOS R3 (but not the R3's eye-controlled AF system). This should result in improved stickiness as the camera tracks subjects.

Should?
 
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