A Few Questions Regarding Medium Format

Batdude · Sep 6, 2022

1. How come there is no dedicated Fujifilm GFX medium format forum?

2. Out of plain curiosity I took a look at Fujifilm's website GFX availability and how come there is not even a wide angle zoom lens available, not even in the road map? Widest is a 23mm prime lens only.

3. Will there be any third party lens support for G mount any time soon?

4. Are there any interesting and awesome portrait lenses you can pop on with a Fringer adapter to get AF?

4. The Fujifilm 50S is not a sports camera, is a medium format, correct? How come Fujifilm immediately removed the ISO and SS top dials on the 50SII?? I don't get that. IMHO I think Fujifilm is ruining the feeling by removing the top dials.

Thanks.

bobby350z · Sep 10, 2022

Batdude said:
Charles_S said:

Batdude said:

4. Are there any interesting and awesome portrait lenses you can pop on with a Fringer adapter to get AF?

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Sigma 135mm f/1.8

Canon 200mm f/2.8 II

Both have some imperfections in use, but for how little they cost compared to GF glass, I can live with it.

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Nice photos.

I am REALLY interested in (learning) more about what lenses can be adapted to the Fujifilm G mount to get AF.

I am starting to enter an entire new world, the world of shooting weddings and I'm "looking" into a Fujifilm GFX body, but for weddings I mainly need the flexibility of zoom lenses, I need a really nice wide angle similar FL like the Sigma 14-24mm equivalent and a tighter lens that covers around 35 to 100mm, are there any lenses from any brand close to the focal length of the Fuji 45-100 F4 that work with a Fringer AF adapter? For weddings I need lenses that respond fairly fast and accurate.

And what kind of imperfections do your lenses have that you notice?

Thanks.

Personally for weddings I wouldn't not get the GFX.

Batdude · Sep 10, 2022

bobby350z said:
Batdude said:

Charles_S said:

bobby350z said:

4. Are there any interesting and awesome portrait lenses you can pop on with a Fringer adapter to get AF?

Click to expand...

Sigma 135mm f/1.8

Canon 200mm f/2.8 II

Both have some imperfections in use, but for how little they cost compared to GF glass, I can live with it.

Click to expand...

Nice photos.

I am REALLY interested in (learning) more about what lenses can be adapted to the Fujifilm G mount to get AF.

I am starting to enter an entire new world, the world of shooting weddings and I'm "looking" into a Fujifilm GFX body, but for weddings I mainly need the flexibility of zoom lenses, I need a really nice wide angle similar FL like the Sigma 14-24mm equivalent and a tighter lens that covers around 35 to 100mm, are there any lenses from any brand close to the focal length of the Fuji 45-100 F4 that work with a Fringer AF adapter? For weddings I need lenses that respond fairly fast and accurate.

And what kind of imperfections do your lenses have that you notice?

Thanks.

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Personally for weddings I wouldn't not get the GFX.

You would not or you wouldn’t not? And may I ask why?

tjkoko · Sep 10, 2022

bobby350z said:
bobby350z wrote:.....Personally for weddings I wouldn't not get the GFX.

A double negative here!!!

Batdude · Sep 10, 2022

JimKasson said:
Batdude said:

JimKasson said:

Batdude said:

Tell me, what lenses and adapters are there available to be able to shoot with GFX?

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Hundreds. Too many to list.

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okay I can totally understand that. Can you mention one or two? Is there some forum where they talk more about this?

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I like Kipon adapters, Pentax 645, Rodenstock HR, the 125 CV macro, the Zeiss 135 Apo Sonnar, and Schneider and Nikon process lenses.

It would help if you would tell us what kinds of images you want to make.

The main purpose would be portraits, family portraits, wedding portraits, a few models once in a while. Is that what you meant or are you asking what type of "look"?

If you're asking for what look I wouldn't know because I don't have any experience in this sort of stuff, manual focus lenses and stuff. But I do like the vintage look.

JimKasson said:
JimKasson said:

JimKasson said:

JimKasson said:

Also, how is the manual focus capability with a Fujifilm 50S body?

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Great.

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Can you expand a little more?

JimKasson said:

https://blog.kasson.com/the-last-word/manually-focusing-the-fujifilm-gfx-50s/

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Did you follow the link above? If you still have questions, please ask them.

Yes thanks

JimKasson said:
JimKasson said:

JimKasson said:

JimKasson said:

My eye vision is sure not what it used to and I find the manual focus capabilities of my Fuji APS-C just plain terrible. I just never liked it and I can never get sharp photos and that little tiny magnification button does not help because I never shoot on tripods.

Thank you so much.

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You are welcome.

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JimKasson · Sep 10, 2022

Batdude said:
JimKasson said:

Batdude said:

JimKasson said:

Batdude said:

Tell me, what lenses and adapters are there available to be able to shoot with GFX?

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Hundreds. Too many to list.

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okay I can totally understand that. Can you mention one or two? Is there some forum where they talk more about this?

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I like Kipon adapters, Pentax 645, Rodenstock HR, the 125 CV macro, the Zeiss 135 Apo Sonnar, and Schneider and Nikon process lenses.

It would help if you would tell us what kinds of images you want to make.

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The main purpose would be portraits, family portraits, wedding portraits, a few models once in a while.

That's not what I think of as the best subjects matter for manual focus lenses.

Why not use the GF 80 and 110?

Batdude · Sep 12, 2022

How do these cameras perform in low light high iso image quality AND auto focus wise? Does the AF lock on or is the AF slouchy?

Teila Day · Sep 12, 2022

Batdude said:
How do these cameras perform in low light high iso image quality AND auto focus wise? Does the AF lock on or is the AF slouchy?

Will probably depend on what you're used to. It's like what do you consider a "big house"? If you're used to living in a 300sf space, then 1,200sq ft. may be large to you.

Likewise, In practice AF performance it can depend greatly on what lens you're using irrespective of whether you've a great or dismal auto focus system. I don't consider any medium format system to have Canon/Nikon cat-reflexes, autofocus performance...

I think the modern medium format AF systems are slow (yet adequate) if using Nikon/Canon pro bodies as a benchmark.

panther fan · Sep 13, 2022

Batdude said:
bobby350z said:

Batdude said:

Charles_S said:

Batdude said:

4. Are there any interesting and awesome portrait lenses you can pop on with a Fringer adapter to get AF?

Click to expand...

Sigma 135mm f/1.8

Canon 200mm f/2.8 II

Both have some imperfections in use, but for how little they cost compared to GF glass, I can live with it.

Click to expand...

Nice photos.

I am REALLY interested in (learning) more about what lenses can be adapted to the Fujifilm G mount to get AF.

I am starting to enter an entire new world, the world of shooting weddings and I'm "looking" into a Fujifilm GFX body, but for weddings I mainly need the flexibility of zoom lenses, I need a really nice wide angle similar FL like the Sigma 14-24mm equivalent and a tighter lens that covers around 35 to 100mm, are there any lenses from any brand close to the focal length of the Fuji 45-100 F4 that work with a Fringer AF adapter? For weddings I need lenses that respond fairly fast and accurate.

And what kind of imperfections do your lenses have that you notice?

Thanks.

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Personally for weddings I wouldn't not get the GFX.

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You would not or you wouldn’t not? And may I ask why?

Even with native lenses the AF is just not good enough for moving subjects.

And a 100MP image slightly out of focus, is softer than a 30MP image in focus.

Also post processing will be a PiTA without necessity. No client wants 100MP files

Batdude · Sep 13, 2022

Teila Day said:
Batdude said:

How do these cameras perform in low light high iso image quality AND auto focus wise? Does the AF lock on or is the AF slouchy?

Click to expand...

Will probably depend on what you're used to. It's like what do you consider a "big house"? If you're used to living in a 300sf space, then 1,200sq ft. may be large to you.

Likewise, In practice AF performance it can depend greatly on what lens you're using irrespective of whether you've a great or dismal auto focus system. I don't consider any medium format system to have Canon/Nikon cat-reflexes, autofocus performance...

I think the modern medium format AF systems are slow (yet adequate) if using Nikon/Canon pro bodies as a benchmark.

panther fan · Sep 13, 2022

Batdude said:
Teila Day said:

Batdude said:

How do these cameras perform in low light high iso image quality AND auto focus wise? Does the AF lock on or is the AF slouchy?

Click to expand...

Will probably depend on what you're used to. It's like what do you consider a "big house"? If you're used to living in a 300sf space, then 1,200sq ft. may be large to you.

Likewise, In practice AF performance it can depend greatly on what lens you're using irrespective of whether you've a great or dismal auto focus system. I don't consider any medium format system to have Canon/Nikon cat-reflexes, autofocus performance...

I think the modern medium format AF systems are slow (yet adequate) if using Nikon/Canon pro bodies as a benchmark.

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To tell y a little about my shooting style I am an AF-S photographer and I don’t shoot high FPS. Let me put it to you in an easier way so that perhaps you or someone else can answer my question. Does the GFX 50 S have the AF like the XE1, XT1 or XT3 when it comes to AF-S?

IT's definetly nowhere near an X-T3

AkarN · Sep 13, 2022

Batdude said:
Teila Day said:

Batdude said:

How do these cameras perform in low light high iso image quality AND auto focus wise? Does the AF lock on or is the AF slouchy?

Click to expand...

Will probably depend on what you're used to. It's like what do you consider a "big house"? If you're used to living in a 300sf space, then 1,200sq ft. may be large to you.

Likewise, In practice AF performance it can depend greatly on what lens you're using irrespective of whether you've a great or dismal auto focus system. I don't consider any medium format system to have Canon/Nikon cat-reflexes, autofocus performance...

I think the modern medium format AF systems are slow (yet adequate) if using Nikon/Canon pro bodies as a benchmark.

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To tell y a little about my shooting style I am an AF-S photographer and I don’t shoot high FPS. Let me put it to you in an easier way so that perhaps you or someone else can answer my question. Does the GFX 50 S have the AF like the XE1, XT1 or XT3 when it comes to AF-S?

I still have an XPRO1, X-H1 and GFX50R. Autofocus definitely closer to XPro/XT1. So if the 50Sii improved autofocus a little, then maybe somewhere between XT1 and XT2 I'd estimate.

Batdude · Sep 13, 2022

AkarN said:
Batdude said:

Teila Day said:

Batdude said:

How do these cameras perform in low light high iso image quality AND auto focus wise? Does the AF lock on or is the AF slouchy?

Click to expand...

Will probably depend on what you're used to. It's like what do you consider a "big house"? If you're used to living in a 300sf space, then 1,200sq ft. may be large to you.

Likewise, In practice AF performance it can depend greatly on what lens you're using irrespective of whether you've a great or dismal auto focus system. I don't consider any medium format system to have Canon/Nikon cat-reflexes, autofocus performance...

I think the modern medium format AF systems are slow (yet adequate) if using Nikon/Canon pro bodies as a benchmark.

Click to expand...

To tell y a little about my shooting style I am an AF-S photographer and I don’t shoot high FPS. Let me put it to you in an easier way so that perhaps you or someone else can answer my question. Does the GFX 50 S have the AF like the XE1, XT1 or XT3 when it comes to AF-S?

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I still have an XPRO1, X-H1 and GFX50R. Autofocus definitely closer to XPro/XT1. So if the 50Sii improved autofocus a little, then maybe somewhere between XT1 and XT2 I'd estimate.

We’ll then to me that’s a damn good thing because for some very strange reason I like the AF from my XT1 more than my T3. The T1 AF has really accurate AF and it hardly ever lets me down. So it would be nice to get the XT1 AF I sure wouldn’t mind that

I would definitely not be interested going back to Xpro1/E1 AF no way Jose not for that type of money.

Batdude · Sep 13, 2022

panther fan said:
Batdude said:

bobby350z said:

Batdude said:

Charles_S said:

panther fan said:

4. Are there any interesting and awesome portrait lenses you can pop on with a Fringer adapter to get AF?

Click to expand...

Sigma 135mm f/1.8

Canon 200mm f/2.8 II

Both have some imperfections in use, but for how little they cost compared to GF glass, I can live with it.

Click to expand...

Nice photos.

I am REALLY interested in (learning) more about what lenses can be adapted to the Fujifilm G mount to get AF.

I am starting to enter an entire new world, the world of shooting weddings and I'm "looking" into a Fujifilm GFX body, but for weddings I mainly need the flexibility of zoom lenses, I need a really nice wide angle similar FL like the Sigma 14-24mm equivalent and a tighter lens that covers around 35 to 100mm, are there any lenses from any brand close to the focal length of the Fuji 45-100 F4 that work with a Fringer AF adapter? For weddings I need lenses that respond fairly fast and accurate.

And what kind of imperfections do your lenses have that you notice?

Thanks.

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Personally for weddings I wouldn't not get the GFX.

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You would not or you wouldn’t not? And may I ask why?

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Even with native lenses the AF is just not good enough for moving subjects.

I understand these cameras are not for fast moving objects, and again, I would only be shooting specific wedding photos not the entire wedding with 50MP per photo that's insane.

So would you say the (AF-S) is not fast and good enough for wedding photos while the bride is walking towards the stage or whatever? My photos don't have to be 100% sharp in that situation and either way I have other cameras, I just want to get an idea.

Thanks.

panther fan said:
And a 100MP image slightly out of focus, is softer than a 30MP image in focus.

Also post processing will be a PiTA without necessity. No client wants 100MP files

panther fan · Sep 13, 2022

Batdude said:
not fast and good enough for wedding photos while the bride is walking towards the stage or whatever?

yes

Batdude said:
My photos don't have to be 100% sharp in that situation and either way I have other cameras, I just want to get an idea.

at that point, why bother with medium format?

A small format image that is in proper focus will look better

Batdude · Sep 13, 2022

panther fan said:
panther fan said:

not fast and good enough for wedding photos while the bride is walking towards the stage or whatever?

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yes

That's pretty sad.

panther fan said:
panther fan said:

My photos don't have to be 100% sharp in that situation and either way I have other cameras, I just want to get an idea.

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at that point, why bother with medium format?

A small format image that is in proper focus will look better

Man, based on everything I have read from people's responses here in the medium format forum itself, now more then ever I feel how wrong people are by getting angry at me for bringing up full frame into the Fuji APS-C forum. Getting really angry and hating the idea of Fuji making a FF and all, and at this point I feel that I am completely right and I have plenty of solid and valid reasons why upgrade to another newer FF system instead. I will continue pairing my Fuji APS-C with FF. You guys here have pretty much answered my question.

Thank you so much for your time and honesty I really appreciate it.

panther fan · Sep 13, 2022

Batdude said:
panther fan said:

Batdude said:

not fast and good enough for wedding photos while the bride is walking towards the stage or whatever?

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yes

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That's pretty sad.

Batdude said:

Batdude said:

My photos don't have to be 100% sharp in that situation and either way I have other cameras, I just want to get an idea.

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at that point, why bother with medium format?

A small format image that is in proper focus will look better

Click to expand...

Man, based on everything I have read from people's responses here in the medium format forum itself, now more then ever I feel how wrong people are by getting angry at me for bringing up full frame into the Fuji APS-C forum. Getting really angry and hating the idea of Fuji making a FF and all, and at this point I feel that I am completely right and I have plenty of solid and valid reasons why upgrade to another newer FF system instead. I will continue pairing my Fuji APS-C with FF. You guys here have pretty much answered my question.

Thank you so much for your time and honesty I really appreciate it.

MF can be the answer

The MF AF system is just not the answer yet. It might be in the future

JimKasson · Sep 13, 2022

panther fan said:
Batdude said:

panther fan said:

panther fan said:

not fast and good enough for wedding photos while the bride is walking towards the stage or whatever?

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yes

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That's pretty sad.

panther fan said:

panther fan said:

My photos don't have to be 100% sharp in that situation and either way I have other cameras, I just want to get an idea.

Click to expand...

at that point, why bother with medium format?

A small format image that is in proper focus will look better

Click to expand...

Man, based on everything I have read from people's responses here in the medium format forum itself, now more then ever I feel how wrong people are by getting angry at me for bringing up full frame into the Fuji APS-C forum. Getting really angry and hating the idea of Fuji making a FF and all, and at this point I feel that I am completely right and I have plenty of solid and valid reasons why upgrade to another newer FF system instead. I will continue pairing my Fuji APS-C with FF. You guys here have pretty much answered my question.

Thank you so much for your time and honesty I really appreciate it.

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MF can be the answer

Whether MF is the answer depends on what the question is.

panther fan said:
The MF AF system is just not the answer yet. It might be in the future

Batdude · Sep 13, 2022

panther fan said:
Batdude said:

panther fan said:

panther fan said:

not fast and good enough for wedding photos while the bride is walking towards the stage or whatever?

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yes

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That's pretty sad.

panther fan said:

panther fan said:

My photos don't have to be 100% sharp in that situation and either way I have other cameras, I just want to get an idea.

Click to expand...

at that point, why bother with medium format?

A small format image that is in proper focus will look better

Click to expand...

Man, based on everything I have read from people's responses here in the medium format forum itself, now more then ever I feel how wrong people are by getting angry at me for bringing up full frame into the Fuji APS-C forum. Getting really angry and hating the idea of Fuji making a FF and all, and at this point I feel that I am completely right and I have plenty of solid and valid reasons why upgrade to another newer FF system instead. I will continue pairing my Fuji APS-C with FF. You guys here have pretty much answered my question.

Thank you so much for your time and honesty I really appreciate it.

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MF can be the answer

The MF AF system is just not the answer yet. It might be in the future

My wife just lost her job a few weeks ago and we're on a super tight budget right now, but if she finds another job soon I MIGHT just get a used GFX 50S just for fun and to experiment with it. We'll see.

Thank you.

Batdude · Sep 14, 2022

How are the jpegs out of a GFX 50S? Are the jpegs just as good as the APS-C or even better? Or worse?

Stan Disbrow · Sep 15, 2022

Hi,

I am sitting here wondering if anyone on this forum actually knows. I have a feeling no one uses in camera processing. I know I don't.

My first DSLR, much to my annoyance, did not offer Raw output. Only Jpeg and Tiff. But I didn't know what I was missing. My second DSLR offered only Raw. But, again, I didn't know what I was missing. However, it was no problem to fire up Photoshop 4 and process every image my own self.

I had plenty of that with film and digital was scads faster. And I could sit in a normal room with the lights on.

My third DSLR, at the time a brand new and hard to get Nikon D1, was the first for me which offered Raw or Jpeg. And Raw needed a Nikon program not PS. So I initially used Jpeg Fine. And they looked....off. So I bit the bullet and bought that overpriced software. And, man! What a difference!

And that was the last time I opted to allow a camera to process shots for me. I process each and every one myself.

So even if I had a Fuji 50, I couldn't say how the Jpeg engine is....

And so I wonder if anyone here uses it.

Stan

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