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Best post processing for M43?

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James Stirling said:
A lot swear here swear by DXO photolab whereas I actively dislike its interface and way of doing things. You cannot please everyone all the time at least there are plenty of options
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That's what I found as well.

What also isn't mentioned is that if you shoot jpg Prime NR doesn't work - maybe not a problem for most, but if you've any old jpgs you'd like to tidy up you're stuffed, whereas Topaz does a great job on jpgs.
 
ProDude said:
Richandhiscat said:
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Sorry but if you've not gotten DXO's masking function down you never bothered to learn it, which is super easy.
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That's really strange, because in a previous post you said you didn't use masks...
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As for the anti Adobe rant count on it continuing. it sucks.
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The real professional photographers who use Adobe are all wrong then, as are the Adobe users replying to this thread, and you know better :-O

I think you just can't work out how to use Adobe products, maybe a bit to complicated for you :-D
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Not at all. Just ceased using Adobe after the first few Lightroom itineration's.
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So you're admitting you haven't got a clue about Lightroom as it is now? Yet you've got such a strong negative opinion on it?

Priceless.
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They got passed by. The professionals you typically run into are either Youtubers or on this forum.
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The professionals I run into are wildlife photographers, often published.
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Considering the many thousands of us out there don't count on it being all about Adobe that's for sure. The ones I associate with have all moved on years ago as well. If you're in love with it go right ahead and stand in the mud.
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Guy Parsons said:
scphoto said:
Guy -

Thanks for listing so many apps/utils for various aspects of photo editing. I'll give some of them a try.

- Simon
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That list was probably more prompted by me thinking about what the heck to put on this new HP Win11 i5 notebook I just bought to replace a really aging and slow little notebook.

I seem to have oceans of software collected over the years but that list gets to the core of what I feel works for me now for photos.

I also need to add SyncbackSE for auto backup purposes usually now set to do an auto backup at detection of plugin of the USB drive. https://www.2brightsparks.com/ The free version also works well but does not have the auto USB detect feature https://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/index.html

I still need to look at slide show making software, I still have ProShow Gold but that company folded so no more updates. Maybe PTE in future when ProShow fails to function for some reason.

Another package I sometimes use is the AVS4YOU bunch and its "licence for life" which is 50% discounted at times (from their already "discounted" price) refers to the life of the PC, when I get a new computer then I have to buy another licence for life.

I find their programs useful for some functions. https://www.avs4you.com/ now called "unlimited" but still a new licence for a new computer, you can't move licences across.

The price gets cheaper than the current $79 "discount" seen today, a few times a year it's half that at $39 or so. There's maybe 6 utility programs for video and audio etc in one download. They have worked OK for me in the past. It seems to have changed, some programs are now free, some have disappeared and the price seems to have risen on the remaining main ones. The freebies seem to be limited versions of some of the paid software, will work OK within their limitations, mainly used for file type conversions by me.

Of course the free version of CCleaner https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download to tidy up the registry and to clean away junk files - and also Speccy https://www.ccleaner.com/speccy/download to poke about in the computer.
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C Sean said:
As a hobbyist M43 user, what is the best program to use for processing M43 files?

I been using Lightroom 6 since it first come out in 2015 and I imagine since then post process programs greatly improved. So what program would you recommend?
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Not sure how much you spend time on PP. I use DxO PL 5 to mainly convert raw files to Tiffs. I don't think it can handle same local adjustment as good as LR or Capture One. But it is good enough for what I need. It handles NR rally well while preserving the details. The lens correction profile by default is viewed by some that it is over sharpening on this forum. But to me it is just fine the way it is.
 
ProDude said:
MNE said:
ProDude said:
Quite honestly, I find it nothing short of shocking ANYONE would recommend Adobe.
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I am confused as to why you find it shocking. Because you don't care to use it doesn't mean millions of others shouldn't,
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The ONLY analogy I can come up with is if I meet you on the street and offer to trade you a $100 bill for your $1 dollar bill it would surprise me if you chose to NOT do it. Assuming of course you could verify easily enough it was for real. Let's assume THAT. and yet another reason why it surprises me when people KNOW there is better out there, they stay stuck in their old ways and software.
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Ooooohhhh ... now I get it. Will you take a check?
 
I prefer Luminar AI. Maybe even try the newer Luminar Neo and see if it works for you. I used lightroom and their digital asset management is superior to anything else. However, I am just a hobbyist and I am lazy. I started to use mac photos to manage, icloud, and a luminar plug in. It's super easy, intuitive, and fast. Not as full-featured as lightroom and definitely not as much as photoshop. However, it's enough for me and it produces nice results. Another big thing for me is luminar, unlike lightroom/photoshop, can be purchased outright. It stops me from getting yet another subscription for me to add to netflix, hulu, amazon prime, etc. That's important to me as well.
 
MNE said:
ProDude said:
MNE said:
ProDude said:
Quite honestly, I find it nothing short of shocking ANYONE would recommend Adobe.
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I am confused as to why you find it shocking. Because you don't care to use it doesn't mean millions of others shouldn't,
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The ONLY analogy I can come up with is if I meet you on the street and offer to trade you a $100 bill for your $1 dollar bill it would surprise me if you chose to NOT do it. Assuming of course you could verify easily enough it was for real. Let's assume THAT. and yet another reason why it surprises me when people KNOW there is better out there, they stay stuck in their old ways and software.
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Ooooohhhh ... now I get it. Will you take a check?
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VISA, MasterCard or American Express. :-P
 
I was fortuntate do be able to download the Nik Collection for free when they offered it a few years ago now and with photoshop elements its all i need.
 
Richandhiscat said:
Richandhiscat said:
A lot swear here swear by DXO photolab whereas I actively dislike its interface and way of doing things. You cannot please everyone all the time at least there are plenty of options
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That's what I found as well.

What also isn't mentioned is that if you shoot jpg Prime NR doesn't work - maybe not a problem for most, but if you've any old jpgs you'd like to tidy up you're stuffed, whereas Topaz does a great job on jpgs.
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For my needs DXO pureraw 2 is handy enough doing the two things DXO is good at { my opinion :-) } NR and optical corrections especially at the wide end where it often gets better results than the camera profiles in say ACR . It is unfortunate that it does not work on jpeg files . Though if you open a RAW in ACR and adjust within ACR then shut it down without saving, PureRaw 2 will apply the changes saved in the XMP file that is how i typically use it

I have Topaz gigapixel AI and find it is a good all in one software allowing for the very best upsizing around, along with good sharpening and NR. The topaz AI software packages need a bit more tweaking to get the best result
 
C Sean said:
As a hobbyist M43 user, what is the best program to use for processing M43 files?

I been using Lightroom 6 since it first come out in 2015 and I imagine since then post process programs greatly improved. So what program would you recommend?
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There are many opinion, but there is no such thing as the best. What is your definition of best? Most probably different from my definition.

I have been using LR since V2. The subscription model does not border me at all; I spent way more on coffee than Adobe subscription. I have casually evaluated some other processors, but I did not want to spend time to learn how to use them effectively. I don't like to switch system unless there is something I need. For example, noise handling is weak with LR, so I added Topaz denoise AI. The latest LR with the new masking tools is so powerful that I can do majority of the processing without going over to PS.
 
James Stirling said:
I have Topaz gigapixel AI and find it is a good all in one software allowing for the very best upsizing around, along with good sharpening and NR. The topaz AI software packages need a bit more tweaking to get the best result
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Yes, Gigapixel does a great job so long as you don't go too far - 2x on a sharp in the first place crop is about my limit.
 
Richandhiscat said:
Richandhiscat said:
I have Topaz gigapixel AI and find it is a good all in one software allowing for the very best upsizing around, along with good sharpening and NR. The topaz AI software packages need a bit more tweaking to get the best result
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Yes, Gigapixel does a great job so long as you don't go too far - 2x on a sharp in the first place crop is about my limit.
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Yup I found this to be the case as well.
 
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